The Amazing Spider Man 2 (2014)

[moose]

Did anyone think the back and forth between gwen and I peter was playes out. It got to be exhausting after a while for me at least. Are together or not this is not the CW.

I would have prefered they followed some similarity with the comic in that gwen hated spiderman as she blamed him for the death of her father and was unaware of Peters duel identity at least till the very end

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[jnmx2000]

He was too busy with Uncle Stacey's Force Ghost.

But what are you going to do, Raimi's Spiderman had MJ hanging off a bridge instead of Gwen and Harry on a flying scooter board.

The entire series is a mess.

sorry but none of those are a "mess". MJ on the bridge was a great nod to the comic as it was obvious they weren't going to do the gwen thing with these films. The love interest was never going to die so that was a welcome homage to the comics. The harry thing... well he was probably my favorite thing about that movie so agree to disagree on that.

 

[jye4ever]

MJ hanging off a bridge is as bad as Harry killing Gwen.

Like I said, all of it a mess.

But I still enjoyed S1 and ASM2 despite those flaws.

 

[crows]

Did anyone think the back and forth between gwen and I peter was playes out. It got to be exhausting after a while for me at least. Are together or not this is not the CW.

I would have prefered they followed some similarity with the comic in that gwen hated spiderman as she blamed him for the death of her father and was unaware of Peters duel identity at least till the very end

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that would have been really really interesting to see but you are giving these hack writers too much credit, they would have never done something so interesting like that

 

[YoNoSe]

I loved it. Probably my favorite Spidey movie (though I still think Doc Ock was the best on-screen villain).

I agree with the criticism that it was too busy, too much plot. Some important developments were rushed at the end as a result. Electro was formidable, but his pre-accident persona was too on-the-nose nerdy and too similar to Jim Carrey's Edward Nygma, IMO.

Other than that, I enjoyed the hell out of it (and even the "too-busy" critique didn't actually bother me). Loved all the action, fun and easy to follow, creatively staged. Swinging has never looked more exciting. The combination of Garfield's performance, his stunt men, the CGI animation and the script added up to the definitive on-screen Spider-Man (for me). He was funny, sometimes unfunnily punny, sometimes obnoxious, and always fun to watch. And kept his mask on A LOT. Bravo.

Garfield and Stone still have great chemistry and the relationship thread did exactly what it was supposed to. I felt the "responsibility" theme much more in this movie.

I bought Harry and Peter from the first scene. No reason Harry should have been in the first one considering the backstory. I thought it worked, and supported the abandonment theme. I've read a lot of criticism on Dane Dehaan that I don't get, at all. But, to each their own. My only criticism is the rushed conclusion to his storyline and the Goblin design, though it wasn't any worse than what we've had in previous incarnations.

I've always wanted to see more random villainy when it comes to heroes with a robust rogues gallery, so I loved the Rhino bits.

I didn't have a problem with tone, either. Some of the characters took themselves a lot more seriously than others and their dialogue reflected that. It was mostly light-hearted with a few serious parts that worked given the character foundations.

7.5/10 for me. Really fun and I look forward to seeing it again.

Oh yeah, just remembered...the colliding planes and Aunt May in the hospital....some stuff really did have no place outside the cutting room floor. But still, didn't impact my overall experience. Definitely negatives, but more eye-rollers than deal-breakers.

Anyhoo, just my 2 cents.

 

[crows]

Can a mess of a movie really be enjoyable? I mean if I enjoy a film, chances are I didn't notice it was a mess.

It can be if you only focus on the scenes or parts you loved and you ignore the messy rest. Many movies are like that. even the untouchable Marvel Movies are that way.

Iron Man comes to mind. you love the cool stuff and the action scenes and your brain chooses to ignore the horrible and boring parts.

 

[pturtle]

Certain scenes are enjoyable that's for sure the the tone of the movie is a mess it doesn't know what it wants to be .does it wanna be a dark movie very light for kids a teenage drama the characters rushed .

Really? I felt like with the opening scene they were establishing the tone for the film, they were embracing that silly comic book tone, but not going "full Raimi" either. I didn't think the tone was a problem.

I loved the movie, but watching it you can tell that they rushed a lot of things that would have been better to see slowly develope. That's my main problem with the movie, but I still thought it was really good, it could have been great though.

It was a step in the right direction and I'm almost certain ASM3 is going to turn out awesome.


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[crows]

there were a lot of unnecessary plots and a lot of waste screen time. Rhino's fight should have been longer at the end. The fight should have ended with peter winning and Rhino escaping. HUGE wasted opportunity. ending the fight in the middle was BS.
Sony might has a well have spiderman waiving a middle finger at the camera at the end.

And does ANYONE care about peter's parents and the work his dad was doing by this point? I doubt anyone watching this gave two hoots about all that crap.

And they should have definitely cut out the airplane crap. It felt like watching a movie on tv and someone comes and changes the channel on you. that was pathetic. that was an incredible waste of money and time and resources.

Those plane scenes are the worst thing out of all of the 5 spiderman movies combined. I cannot believe no one is complaining about that waste of time.

 

[Kibagami]

Wait, why were they on the run?

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

I've always wanted to see more random villainy when it comes to heroes with a robust rogues gallery, so I loved the Rhino bits.

I didn't have a problem with tone, either. Some of the characters took themselves a lot more seriously than others and their dialogue reflected that. It was mostly light-hearted with a few serious parts that worked given the character foundations.

Oh yeah, just remembered...the colliding planes and Aunt May in the hospital....some stuff really did have no place outside the cutting room floor. But still, didn't impact my overall experience. Definitely negatives, but more eye-rollers than deal-breakers.

Glad you enjoyed it. I agree with the above points. The plane and aunt May thing was the straw that broke the camels back in terms of too much going on. Without that I wouldn't have that thought

It can be if you only focus on the scenes or parts you loved and you ignore the messy rest. Many movies are like that. even the untouchable Marvel Movies are that way..

As long as the sum of the enjoyable parts outweigh the un-enjoyable parts then it's fine. I think it's that way with most movies.

Really? I felt like with the opening scene they were establishing the tone for the film, they were embracing that silly comic book tone, but not going "full Raimi" either. I didn't think the tone was a problem.

I loved the movie, but watching it you can tell that they rushed a lot of things that would have been better to see slowly develope. That's my main problem with the movie, but I still thought it was really good, it could have been great though.

It was a step in the right direction and I'm almost certain ASM3 is going to turn out awesome.

Agreed. The first two acts embraced the comic and was fun. The final act ramped up the drama and darkened the tone, but it happened gradually imo

 

[YoNoSe]

Wait, why were they on the run?

Because Oscorp was being funded by MAD GERMAN SCIENTISTS!

I think. That's the only way I can explain the "vee haff vays off making you tawlk" dude who was being mean to Electro.

Yeah, I won't deny the WTF moments.

 

[YoNoSe]

As long as the sum of the enjoyable parts outweigh the un-enjoyable parts then it's fine. I think it's that way with most movies.

That's how I've always felt about Tim Burton movies. Truly flawed, and awfully beautiful. So I'm sometimes happily surprised and never disappointed.

 

[jye4ever]

I think they should've also added 2 trains and 2 boats on a collision course.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

there were a lot of unnecessary plots and a lot of waste screen time. Rhino's fight should have been longer at the end. The fight should have ended with peter winning and Rhino escaping. HUGE wasted opportunity. ending the fight in the middle was BS.
Sony might has a well have spiderman waiving a middle finger at the camera at the end. .

I liked the way it cut away personally. The scene was more about Spidey getting back into action and showing the escalation of villians than it was about fighting.

 

[crows]

If they wanted to show how threatening and powerful Electro was why not with something else in New York?

Aunt May was working in a Hospital right? why not do something there? add her to the problem? why not something with a riot in the black out? something, Anything.

But the plane crap was too stupid. that was too corny and too forced. it had absolutely nothing to do with the city or with spiderman or anything.

huge facepalm on that one

 

[crows]

I liked the way it cut away personally. The scene was more about Spidey getting back into action and showing the escalation of villians than it was about fighting.

I understand it was about spiderman getting his Mojo back but they could have also done the fight a little bit longer. Or end in a real cliffhanger where you don't know if spiderman will win or not.

Just 3 more minutes of fight could have made all the difference. the way this ended reminded me of the way 300 ended,
but in 300 it works because they are not showing a NEW bad guy at the end, they are just continuing the battle.
In spiderman it was a complete waste of Rhino



Spiderman ends almost the same way

 

[Hologram AI]

I'd give the movie a 7/10. It's a shy away from being a much better film had they fixed up the writing for the villains.

Highlight of the movie goes to Peter + Gwen. With Garfield and Emma being together outside of Hollywood, the chemistry between them worked beautifully. I can certainly see why the movie was focused more so on the Peter and Gwen aspect as to just his Spider-Man persona. It gave her death a bit of depth after having gone through seeing them together so well.

Electro
I'm not entirely sure how I feel about Electro. Once he was released from Ravincroft, he had a "cooler" vibe but that was only the third act, even then he felt like a tool for Harry. I wish he had a more proper development and more scenes in terrorizing the city. He had a detachment to Peter/Spidey outside of the Time Square scene, they could have developed on that some more. Once Harry was involved, he felt like a side villain rather than the main villain. Heck, once he got captured we didn't see him for a while until Harry helped bust him out. His Pre-Electro persona as Max was also a bit too much. I get that they were trying to put him in a situation where we as the audience pity him for being so mistreated but it was far too over done with his nerd thing going on.

Harry/Green Goblin
I actually really liked Dehaan's performance as Harry. I think if he had a entire film to himself as being the main villain, he could have pulled it off. I think if he had a bit more development, his transformation to Goblin wouldn't have felt too rush. His 3 minute "battle" with Spidey was also on the short side but that's because they just threw him in there to have Gwens death. I can't see Norman coming back any time soon as Goblin, it seems Dehaan will be a part of the Sinister Six and Peter having a personal venteta after him for Gwens death. Overall a good performance from him. Had they ended the film with him becoming Goblin, I think that would have worked out better for his character.

Rhino
Not much to say about him. They threw him in there at the end to end the movie on a high note with Spider-Man being back while also pushing the start of the Sinister Six. They should have cut the Airplane + Aunt May scenes and gave him some more minutes for a longer fight scene.

The movie was great. The Spider-Man scenes felt like they were straight out of the comics. I love the comic like web slinging they gave him and I LOVED that he didn't take off his mask when he was wearing the suit, outside of Gwens death. The airplane and aunt may's scene should have been cut for sure. Those scenes felt like scenes you would have seen on the Deleted Scene section on the DVD. They felt really out of place and they added nothing at all. Movie was better than the first film, which had a way too slow of a pace. It did fall under the problem of having too many villains. No where of a mess that SM3 was but it definitely had too many stories going on. It felt like they were filming 3 films and then stitched it all together.

Ok. Thought so. I hope it pops up. It seemed oddly absent here. Though enough was going on that I didn't really notice it until after the fact.

I don't think the video game is canon as it plays differently from the movie but the game starts out with Peter going after the Killer. He finds him and the killer ends up being killed by Cletus Kasady (Carnage), who's on a killing spree of other criminals.

 

[JAWS]

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Your Rankings of SM movies is well done.... I approve

 

[JAWS]

Thinking about the film more today.... Here is why I had a big problem with Electro... There was no real Hand to Hand Combat... It was all Spidey dodging Electric beams... It's why I thought the fight with Goblin was much better, even though it was much shorter. I like when Spidey gets to get in there and Mix it up a bit..


You know what else was great about this.... This was the first Spider-man film where Spidey kept his mask on for all the important action scenes... They did not feel the need to take off the mask so we could see who the star was. I respect that.

 

[krec9]

He was too busy with Uncle Stacey's Force Ghost.

But what are you going to do, Raimi's Spiderman had MJ hanging off a bridge instead of Gwen and Harry on a flying scooter board.

The entire series is a mess.

Best post of the thread yes every spidey movie is when will Sony ever get it right.