Come on!!!! Spider-man 3??? You need to watch it again... All the SM films are oscar winners compared to that one.
I don't know. After seeing Spider-Man 3 recently after not having seen it in years, I don't think it's the monstrosity I once made it out to be. Atleast it was cohesive and had a plot instead of throwing everything at the wall to promote future movies. To think that back in 2007 I thought the inclusion of all those villains was unnecessary, then the ASM2 comes around and actually makes those guys look like a godsend! Hell, look at Brock vs. ASM2 Harry Osborn. I thought Brock was horribly underdeveloped in Spider-Man 3, but Harry ended up being much, much worse. I thought Venom popping in at the last 15 minutes of the movie was bad? Well that was better than Kid-Goblin's 2 minutes.
I think the main reason I disliked 3 so much is because it was such a disappointment after the brilliance of Spider-Man 2. I still hate the retcon BS with Sandman and Uncle Ben, not to mention the symbiote and Harry's convenient amnesia, but whatever. If anything though, I don't see how anyone could say that Spider-Man 3 is anywhere near as "bad" as ASM or ASM2. Unless they're zeroing in on Peter's Saturday Night fever montage or the odd humor throughout. In retrospect though, I actually kind of dig that sequence. In fact, it might be one of my favorite parts in the film (J. Jonah Jameson's reaction is priceless and I forgot that Betty Brant wanted Peter's D because of his attitude). I find it odd that people attack that scene when personally, I find the "Twist" scene with Mary Jane and Harry to be a helluva lot worse. THAT is cringe worthy.
Emo Peter was genuine lolz whereas a scene like the one above is just cringe worthy.
how anyone can compare this with Batman and Robin... Or Batman Forever for that matter.. Other then the Max character.
- Over the top villains with paper thin motives (I just wanna kill the hero!)
- Max = Nygma
- erratic shifts in tone (played straight one minute, than zany the next)
- inappropriate camp
- cliched Mad Doctor
- bombastic quality where style seems more important than substance
- heavily edited film that doesn't match the screenplay due to studio influence (missing scenes galore)
I don't think Batman and Robin is very fair, but I definitely think Batman Forever is an apt comparison. Let's look at that film for a second. One minute, they're playing the story straight, trying to delve into the psyche of Batman and his past, then the next minute, we have the Riddler chewing up scenery with lines like "joygasm" and grabbing his crotch. Thing is, the charisma of the villains are the saving grace to the Schumacher movies in my opinion, which is the exact opposite with the new Spider-Man movies which have boring villains. In the ASM2, Spider-Man offers the witty comic relief.
They both seem to have this gaudy blockbuster quality without real thought to the actual story. To their credit though, they do seem like the most comic booky. Out of all 7 Batman films, Batman Forever seems the most like a comic book come to life, much like ASM2 out of it's respective franchise. I think that's the appeal of it.
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