The Amazing Spider Man 2 (2014)

[chewblacca]

If Spidey makes an Avengers cameo then that would throw off that entire universe. According to the films, spidey seems to be the only here in his movie universe so far. If he guest stars in a Avengers movie whenever there is some big baddie everyone will be like why is spidey handling this guy alone? where's the Avengers?

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

I've heard that about the MCU solos. "why is Thor fighting to save the universe alone when the avengers assembled just to save New York?"

People often say items because the Solo events take place around the same time so the other heroes are busy at that moment, but that ms too convenient to last, they should try to establish a reason they don't team up for Killians and Malakiths

 

[jye4ever]

You mean for free?

You on crack.

If Spidey makes an Avengers cameo then that would throw off that entire universe. According to the films, spidey seems to be the only here in his movie universe so far. If he guest stars in a Avengers movie whenever there is some big baddie everyone will be like why is spidey handling this guy alone? where's the Avengers?

I would be one of them complainers.

I've heard that about the MCU solos. "why is Thor fighting to save the universe alone when the avengers assembled just to save New York?"

People often say items because the Solo events take place around the same time so the other heroes are busy at that moment, but that ms too convenient to last, they should try to establish a reason they don't team up for Killians and Malakiths

I know Marvel tries to paint the picture that comics function in the exact same manner but I would be a lying SOB if I said that the absence of superheros didn't have me questioning why they wouldn't step in and help.

Isn't the president being kidnapped, alien ship invasion of London and Cap's situation plus the fall of Shield important?

I know, I know, they wouldn't be much of super anthing if they needed help with every incident.

I think its really just me craving cinematic crossovers like a junkie craves a needle.

 

[ironwez20]

Yea when tony starks house got blown up in IM3 you'd think one of his teamates would lend a helping hand or atleast ask the guy if he's ok.

 

[DiFabio]

There's a reason the Avengers aren't in the solo movies . . . . it's because . . . wait for it . . . . they're solo movies.

Why would Cap be in Iron Man 3? It's Iron Man 3, not the Avengers. Why would Iron Man be in Captain America: The Winter Soldier (even though he kind of is), it's Cap 2, not the Avengers.

They're getting closer and closer to cross character pollination in these movies ("Cap" in Thor II, Widow in Cap II, etc. etc.), not sure why this "where are the other Avengers" qualifies as a legitimate complaint/criticism. We all know why they don't, it's because it ain't an Avengers movie. If they did meet up in other character's stories, seeing the heroes on the big screen wouldn't have much of an impact anymore.

 

[jye4ever]

Party pooper.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

You on crack.

Not currently

There's a reason the Avengers aren't in the solo movies . . . . it's because . . . wait for it . . . . they're solo movies.

Why would Cap be in Iron Man 3? It's Iron Man 3, not the Avengers. Why would Iron Man be in Captain America: The Winter Soldier (even though he kind of is), it's Cap 2, not the Avengers.

They're getting closer and closer to cross character pollination in these movies ("Cap" in Thor II, Widow in Cap II, etc. etc.), not sure why this "where are the other Avengers" qualifies as a legitimate complaint/criticism. We all know why they don't, it's because it ain't an Avengers movie. If they did meet up in other character's stories, seeing the heroes on the big screen wouldn't have much of an impact anymore.

That's the thing with a connected universe, it raises those questions, mostly because they're teammates and friends, if you're a superhero and your teammate is in trouble why aren't you there?

Sure from and outside perspective it's because it's a solo story with that characters villains stable and the actors can't show up in everyone's movies but being connected to these other heroes is a huge thing with those movies so as much as it's a cool thing to have them connected it's also a thing which can be a negative as it includes problems in connectivity and continuity.

WB/DCCU are gonna face the same problem

 

[EVILFACE]

Yea when tony starks house got blown up in IM3 you'd think one of his teamates would lend a helping hand or atleast ask the guy if he's ok.

No, you'd think he would have initiated that 'house party' command at that point.....

 

[spindrift]

There's a reason the Avengers aren't in the solo movies . . . . it's because . . . wait for it . . . . they're solo movies.

Why would Cap be in Iron Man 3? It's Iron Man 3, not the Avengers. Why would Iron Man be in Captain America: The Winter Soldier (even though he kind of is), it's Cap 2, not the Avengers.

They're getting closer and closer to cross character pollination in these movies ("Cap" in Thor II, Widow in Cap II, etc. etc.), not sure why this "where are the other Avengers" qualifies as a legitimate complaint/criticism. We all know why they don't, it's because it ain't an Avengers movie. If they did meet up in other character's stories, seeing the heroes on the big screen wouldn't have much of an impact anymore.

Yes but it ignores the carefully woven "universe" that they all occupy...even as comic book movies they should have an internal logic on how events are related to the chartacters...it bothers me constantly but I'm a detail freak anyhow

 

[DiFabio]

That's the thing with a connected universe, it raises those questions, mostly because they're teammates and friends, if you're a superhero and your teammate is in trouble why aren't you there?

Sure from and outside perspective it's because it's a solo story with that characters villains stable and the actors can't show up in everyone's movies but being connected to these other heroes is a huge thing with those movies so as much as it's a cool thing to have them connected it's also a thing which can be a negative as it includes problems in connectivity and continuity.

WB/DCCU are gonna face the same problem

Well all these movies have ****** continuity. WB, Marvel Studios, Marvel Sony, Marvel Fox, etc. Marvel Studios is the least offensive of them all in my opinion.

Best thing to do is chalk up the absence of other characters with a "too busy" excuse. Why isn't Cap in Iron Man 3? Well, because he's doing his own thing, he's on a mission somewhere. Thor can't make it to Cap 2? He's ****ing around in Asgard. Overall, I'd say the Marvel Studios films have the best connective tissue in terms of story and "canon" so far. There's a few flubs like the Incredible Hulk, but nothing too horrendous.

 

[Khev]

Isn't the president being kidnapped, alien ship invasion of London and Cap's situation plus the fall of Shield important?

Let me help you with these bud.

President being kidnapped: Not SHIELD's bag, as it was controlled by HYDRA. You can bet Pierce kept Cap and Fury extra busy when that was going down.

London invasion: Only lasted 8 minutes (they actually said that in the movie.) Avengers halfway around the world might have heard about it but not even a Quinjet would have gotten them there before it ended.

Fall of SHIELD: Cap is still getting used to the modern world and trusts soldiers more than spies or other superheroes. Hence his enlisting the aid of Sam Wilson over calling a pompous prick like Stark (who assisted in the design of the very helicarriers he was battling.)

We good?

 

[DiFabio]

I wonder how Stark is going to feel when he finds out that not only was his daddy killed by Hydra, but he also put his time, money, and resources into Hydra weapons of mass destruction.

 

[jye4ever]

Let me help you with these bud.

President being kidnapped: Not SHIELD's bag, as it was controlled by HYDRA. You can bet Pierce kept Cap and Fury extra busy when that was going down.

London invasion: Only lasted 8 minutes (they actually said that in the movie.) Avengers halfway around the world might have heard about it but not even a Quinjet would have gotten them there before it ended.

Fall of SHIELD: Cap is still getting used to the modern world and trusts soldiers more than spies or other superheroes. Hence his enlisting the aid of Sam Wilson over calling a pompous prick like Stark (who assisted in the design of the very helicarriers he was battling.)

We good?

That helps.

 

[Niltusk]

No, you'd think he would have initiated that 'house party' command at that point.....

They were buried, Jarvis told him when the crew had removed the large rubble and the vault could be opened.

My guess is since news agencies were reporting Stark died in the explosion there was no immediate need to run to his rescue, I'm sure the other Avengers were just sitting around crying and missing him.

 

[bransen2099]

People are still going nuts over this crossover stuff??

Its simple, they were busy with their own problems

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

Feige will probably reveal that the villains are all working together and attacking the heroes simultaneously so as not to allow them to back each other up, or some such convenience

 

[pturtle]

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[Bardoon]

People are still going nuts over this crossover stuff??

Its simple, they were busy with their own problems

Sounds like its people who haven't read the comics in the past.

Stand-alone titles and characters are ALWAYS dealing with their own city-wide issues and challenges. Common thought is: "Where are all the other superheroes?" Well these issues are typically reserved for that character (Iron Man, Spidey, Wolverine, etc.), his/her title and his/her supporting heroes and villains in their own "universe". This is why Marvel and DC have the "cross-over" storylines, which typically spread across comic titles that commonly don't intermingle.

But yes, common belief is that everyone else is "busy" doing their own thing and characters from "outside" make small cameos or whatever. Sometimes, the storylines will directly acknowledge that the other characters are "not there"...allowing the reader a clue when the storyline takes place in time.

 

[bransen2099]

Sounds like its people who haven't read the comics in the past.

Stand-alone titles and characters are ALWAYS dealing with their own city-wide issues and challenges. Common thought is: "Where are all the other superheroes?" Well these issues are typically reserved for that character (Iron Man, Spidey, Wolverine, etc.), his/her title and his/her supporting heroes and villains in their own "universe". This is why Marvel and DC have the "cross-over" storylines, which typically spread across comic titles that commonly don't intermingle.

But yes, common belief is that everyone else is "busy" doing their own thing and characters from "outside" make small cameos or whatever. Sometimes, the storylines will directly acknowledge that the other characters are "not there"...allowing the reader a clue when the storyline takes place in time.

Yupp exactly

 

[ironwez20]

No, you'd think he would have initiated that 'house party' command at that point.....

O yea that to..... hehe what a dumbass. "PEPPER USE MAI SUIT TO GET OUT DA HOUSE WHILE I RUN AROUND LIKE A JACKASS FORGETTING THAT I PUT SO MUCH TIME AND ENERGY CREATING MILLIONS OF SUITS IN MAI LAB. NO WONDER THE AVENGERS DIDNT WANT MY ASS".