The Amazing Spider-Man - OPEN SPOILERS NOW

[CelticPredator]

Re: The Amazing Spider-Man

It's too soon, that's still a fact.

I can easily tell what's CGI and what's practical in that scene. I know at least the very first part of the scene is totally practical. And it doesn't look good.


Or, how about this for a fact...Raimi's Spider-Man 3 is way better then that cop scene. Fact. Period. End of story. Disagree, and you explode like a monkey.

 

[crows]

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What brilliance?

I mean, first, it's too soon for a full 100% reboot. That's a fact.

Spider-Man 3, despite sucking, could've still moved on and had at least 1 or two more. The story wasn't over, like Batman's will be.

Second of all, it's another origin story for a character who we ALREADY explored that with in the first flick. I mean, they're going to try and make it different...but why? The outcome will always be the same. He gets bit, and becomes Spider-Man. Just because he got Ang Lee'ed, doesn't make interesting again.

Three, it doesn't look good. The trailers are cool, but they're trailers. They are designed to mislead you, so you can buy their product. And while the trailer looks cool, none of the actual clips are any good.

The acting is pretty awful, and everything Spidey says is just....well, horrible. I'm down for Spidey being corny, but that cop scene is just so....dull.

I know they wanted to do it practical, but I don't think it works. It doesn't feel real to me. Even though it is. I had much more fun in Raimi's flicks where I saw a CGI Spidey flying through the city.

It'll just look so limited to see him on wires and stuff.

And finally, the fact that people are already calling the older films obsolete just because this one exists. Which I find silly. It's the little kid with his new toy mentality. OHHH I LOVE MY TOY. OH A NEW TOY? OH I LOVE THE NEW TOY, OLD TOY SUCKS.

I'm going to laugh when this film is worse then Spider-Man 3.

Oh, and the music is awful. James Horner is good, but he's not great. I mean even Aliens is just an offshoot of Khan. But it's not his fault. He had no time.

But that doesn't excuse Avatar sounding an awful lot like Titanic.

yeah im sorry but this is pretty pathetic, you contradict yourself way too much, a lot of opinions but no facts
I would say Wait for the movie to come out and then start ripping in off, That's what Im doing with Resident Evil, (well, everyone pretty much knows that one is going to totally suck, but I will still wait and see) this is much different, a lot of the stuff you hate about this will make a lot of people happy, a lot of fans,
some of us are really happy to see Lizard, and a cool spiderman, I for one think this will be amazing, it looks like its going to be really good,
I Hate the way Lizard looks, but there is nothing anyone can do about it now,

of course the movie could still suck, but I dont think it will

I am really excited for this,

 

[jye4ever]

Re: The Amazing Spider-Man

It's too soon, that's still a fact.

I can easily tell what's CGI and what's practical in that scene. I know at least the very first part of the scene is totally practical. And it doesn't look good.


Or, how about this for a fact...Raimi's Spider-Man 3 is way better then that cop scene. Fact. Period. End of story. Disagree, and you explode like a monkey.

You made it so easy for me to want to disagree

 

[CelticPredator]

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This movie is pathetic.

I'm going to hate on it because it exists. It's a movie that has no reason to exist now. In any form. But had to, to keep the rights. So yeah. ____ing enjoy it, because you'll never get an Avengers movie with Spider-Man in your lifetime. It won't happen because of crap like this.

And how did I contradict my self? Please, point it the ____ out. . He asked why people are bashing it, I told him every reason everyone who is, has.

You asked. I told. Deal.

 

[diecast]

Re: The Amazing Spider-Man

It's too soon, that's still a fact.

I can easily tell what's CGI and what's practical in that scene. I know at least the very first part of the scene is totally practical. And it doesn't look good.


Or, how about this for a fact...Raimi's Spider-Man 3 is way better then that cop scene. Fact. Period. End of story. Disagree, and you explode like a monkey.

yea, youre right. this looks so much better

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78ZOi-a41ZU&feature=relmfu"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78ZOi-a41ZU&feature=relmfu[/ame]

go to 2:32 for the single worst CG ive seen in any movie. ever.

 

[CelticPredator]

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You made it so easy for me to disagree

 

[ZaCHw117]

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This thread sucks....

 

[CelticPredator]

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yea, youre right. this looks so much better

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78ZOi-a41ZU&feature=relmfu

go to 2:32 for the single worst CG ive seen in any movie. ever.

HA. Well, give this movie like 8 years, and it will have the worst CGI in any movie. Ever.

You ask why people bash this flick, it's because of ____ like this.

New toy mentality pisses people off.

 

[ZaCHw117]

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What brilliance?

I mean, first, it's too soon for a full 100% reboot. That's a fact.

Spider-Man 3, despite sucking, could've still moved on and had at least 1 or two more. The story wasn't over, like Batman's will be.

Second of all, it's another origin story for a character who we ALREADY explored that with in the first flick. I mean, they're going to try and make it different...but why? The outcome will always be the same. He gets bit, and becomes Spider-Man. Just because he got Ang Lee'ed, doesn't make interesting again.

Three, it doesn't look good. The trailers are cool, but they're trailers. They are designed to mislead you, so you can buy their product. And while the trailer looks cool, none of the actual clips are any good.

The acting is pretty awful, and everything Spidey says is just....well, horrible. I'm down for Spidey being corny, but that cop scene is just so....dull.

I know they wanted to do it practical, but I don't think it works. It doesn't feel real to me. Even though it is. I had much more fun in Raimi's flicks where I saw a CGI Spidey flying through the city.

It'll just look so limited to see him on wires and stuff.

And finally, the fact that people are already calling the older films obsolete just because this one exists. Which I find silly. It's the little kid with his new toy mentality. OHHH I LOVE MY TOY. OH A NEW TOY? OH I LOVE THE NEW TOY, OLD TOY SUCKS.

I'm going to laugh when this film is worse then Spider-Man 3.

Oh, and the music is awful. James Horner is good, but he's not great. I mean even Aliens is just an offshoot of Khan. But it's not his fault. He had no time.

But that doesn't excuse Avatar sounding an awful lot like Titanic.

 

[CelticPredator]

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My favorite scene.

Hey, people asked. I don't understand, you ask why, someone tells you why, and you don't like the answer....

 

[Bullseye]

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LOL. Funny giff.

 

[diecast]

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HA. Well, give this movie like 8 years, and it will have the worst CGI in any movie. Ever.

You ask why people bash this flick, it's because of ____ like this.

New toy mentality pisses people off.

thats not an issue of age. it looked like crap in the theater. it isnt that the technology just became so much better. the biggest offense in that is the animation. something people have been doing since the 30's. something that still holds up in the original toy story which came out what? 6 years earlier?

these two movies are about as similar as dark knight and batman and robin. there is a chasm between the styles of the two. i dont see the hate for people preferring one to the other. and im not talking about the quality of the movie, which we obiously dont know yet. im talking strictly about the look.

but i do know that i dont like that raimi look. and IMO the writing of the originals bad. really bad. and see what i did there? that was my opinion. not me pretending like my opinion is somehow fact.

youre getting all up in arms because some people like aston martins and some like lamborghinis. its not the martin making the lambo old hat.

 

[CelticPredator]

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I said it being too soon was a fact. .

Which it is, if you think about most real total reboots.

Everything else is clearly my opinion. But no, because I didn't put IMO, it apparently is a fact.


Once again, Bullseye asked why people were _____ing about this movie. I told him why. Maybe more people want a new Spider-Man with the same story. I, and a few people don't.

If this flick is good, I don't mind eating crow. A good flick is something that's worth being wrong about.

But I do want to see the Raimi bashers get theirs too. Because a lot of them just found a new hate for the movies just because this one is right around the corner. It's one of the two reasons why I get frustrated with this flick.

 

[Bullseye]

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I see no reason to bash Raimi's versions at all even part 3. But he had run his course. Personally I would rate Spidey 2 among the very best comic book movies. I just wish they had continued with classic characters for another couple of movies before introducing Venom. With the money the movies made they could easily have afforded a Sinister Six movie.

 

[diecast]

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I said it being too soon was a fact. .

Which it is, if you think about most real total reboots.

Everything else is clearly my opinion. But no, because I didn't put IMO, it apparently is a fact.

which still doesnt make it a fact.

and youre right. i thought you tagged the fact clause on another paragraph, so my apologies

Once again, Bullseye asked why people were _____ing about this movie. I told him why. Maybe more people want a new Spider-Man with the same story. I, and a few people don't.

If this flick is good, I don't mind eating crow. A good flick is something that's worth being wrong about.

But I do want to see the Raimi bashers get theirs too. Because a lot of them just found a new hate for the movies just because this one is right around the corner. It's one of the two reasons why I get frustrated with this flick.

most of the _____ing i hear about is about the suit, the emo hair, the reboot, the snout....basic nerd grievances with every movie.

generally, to answer bullseyes question - because people like to _____.

i dont understand what there is to like about raimi's style honestly. but im obviously out on a limb here, seeing as he's the successful director and there are horde's of nerds defending his trilogy. just not my thing. but i say the same thing about jackson pollack, so go figure.

 

[CelticPredator]

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Hey, I agree. I really do.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

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I'm pretty sure Celtic has said before he doesn't care for Spider-Man and he only saw it because his favourite director (Raimi) made them.

So because this isn't Raimi it's automatically bad to him and i think he's here to 'correct' anyone from thinking this could be better than Raimis ones.

People will act the same when the rebooted Batman comes along without Nolan, they'll says its crap because its not Nolan

 

[DiFabio]

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People will act the same when the rebooted Batman comes along without Nolan, they'll says its crap because its not Nolan

Not me. I'm in this for the characters (Batman, Spider-Man, etc.) not the directors. Problem here is, Amazing Spider-Man just doesn't look good to me from what I've seen from trailers, clips, and tv spots. Raimi has no bearing on this for me. Dunno about old CelticP though.

Though I do expect little _____es to start ripping on the Nolan films when the Batman reboot comes along just like people did to the Burton films when Nolan's were "new" and the Raimi's movies when this reboot crap came up. One always has to be better. That's the fanboy mentality.

"Oh it wasn't that good. The Dark Knight is crap. Spider-Man 2 is nothing special."

This is what happens. If Webb's Spider-Man films are a hit there will be a day where they end and the slate is clean and wiped free again. I can see it now. THE SPECTACULAR SPIDER-MAN 2021.

"Eh, Garfield is awful, these Spider-Man films look SOOOOOO much better. The CGI in 2012 looked FAKE."

"Oh look a new shiny toy!"

 

[K07]

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People will act the same when the rebooted Batman comes along without Nolan, they'll says its crap because its not Nolan

I am in total agreement with CP about this being too soon. If they wanted to do a soft reboot with a new cast, director, and writer? I can get over it. But a "new" origin? It's not new. It's the same. With a few pointless details about his parents thrown in that may or may not involve genetic engineering. Big whoop. Burton didn't focus on an origin for Batman, therefore, BB didn't feel forced like this.

Nolan is leaving on his own. He was allowed to tell his story and is bowing out gracefully. Raimi was forced to change the script by Sony to appease fanboy demands and it blew up in their face. Instead of continuing that series, they decided to start over. Despite what some of you claim, Sony had a GREAT thing going for it. All three movies made a lot of money and the first two Spider-Man movies appear on everyone's list of best comic movies made. At least people I know and not around these parts.

 

[DiFabio]

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If they wanted to do a soft reboot with a new cast, director, and writer? I can get over it. But a "new" origin? It's not new. It's the same. With a few pointless details about his parents thrown in that may or may not involve genetic engineering. Big whoop. Burton didn't focus on an origin for Batman, therefore, BB didn't feel forced like this.

This.

I mean, there's no going back but I think Raimi, Maguire and Co. could have made a solid Spider-Man flick with Spider-Man 4. But like I said, can't change it, have to accept things how they are. I've been open minded to ASM but I just can't get into what I've been seeing, it looks just as dull as Spider-Man 3.

It REALLY sucks that we didn't get to see the Raimi interpretation of Lizard.

I don't mind seeing a new director or cast but did you really have to "reboot" everything about the last series when you're using a villain that had been built up from the first film?