The Avengers VS The Dark Knight

[carbo-fation]

Avengers and TDK are two different kinds of movie. Even though I watched Avengers twice already and it was a lot of fun, I wasn't moved by it like I was with TDK. So TDK gets my vote.

 

[EVILFACE]

Thanks to all the Joker douchery it was a no-brainer.

I don't let others actions decide if I like a movie or not.

 

[thenammagazine]

I don't let others actions decide if I like a movie or not.

Too bad that doesn't translate to reading.

 

[a-dev]

I agree. And Avengers narrowly pushes out BB as the best comic book movie so far. But the pole's not about BB, it's about TDK.

I also agree about TDK being about Dent - or at least as much so as it is about Joker. Eckhart (sp?) was excellent and criminally overlooked because of the Joker hype.

 

[IrishJedi]

Nolan fans Vs Whedon fans. This is the way the world ends.

It's Nolandrones vs Whedonites. Get it right.

 

[thenammagazine]

I also agree about TDK being about Dent - or at least as much so as it is about Joker. Eckhart (sp?) was excellent and criminally overlooked because of the Joker hype.

Both in marketing and on screen.

 

[intothevoid]

Both in marketing and on screen.

I'm actually glad the marketing was quiet on him, was great going in expecting just a glimpse at Two Face but actually being surprised to see his entire arc completed

 

[EVILFACE]

If the actors were swapped, would everyone have Eckhart signatures and $1000 sculpts?

 

[meanstreak]

Avengers was great, but nobody came 1/10th as close at churning out a performance like Heath.

Both great films though in different ways. I was more invested while watching TDK though so that's why it gets my vote.

 

[EVILFACE]

I think Loki came close.

 

[Chapter 2099]

I'm just glad this silly discussion has it's own thread now rather than pollute the other movie threads.

This is just the beginning, I'm sure. No single thread can contain a debate like this.

This. Just. Got. Real.

 

[intothevoid]

This is just the beginning, I'm sure. No single thread can contain a debate like this.

This. Just. Got. Real.

Just wait till TDKR comes out

 

[Sachiel]

TDK and The Avengers are very different from each other, striving for different things. The only reason people are comparing them is because they are part of big money making "superhero" franchises.

I like them both for their differences. I didn't think The Avengers should have been more like TDK and I don't think the TDKR should be like The Avengers. I don't pigeonhole "superhero" or "comic book" movies into one genre where they all have to be a certain 'type' of movie.

Having said that... I voted for TDK.

As it stands, TDK was too convoluted, having recycled Scarecrow (which was dumb), and having included a major villain who was only there as a plot point, but exploiting him in far too many scenes as well as the disgustingly huge marketing campaign for him, downplaying the fact that the story was about Dent. It's hilarious how this gets ignored by the Nolancompoops when Spider-Man 3 gets dragged over the coals for essentially doing the same thing.

Convoluted? Can't argue there.

I don't see the Scarecrow scene as recycling. That scene was a great intro for Batman and it gave us a link to BB with Scarecrow while introducing us to the fake Bat-men and the Chechen. Scarecrow was a loose thread from BB. Sure Batman could have captured him off screen and he didn't need to show up at all, but he was part of what made that scene fun.

Yes the marketing was fixated on mostly The Joker, but I didn't lose sight on what the film was really going to be about. I look at TDK as more than just a "Joker movie" and I got more out of it than just the Joker scenes. I think he was well utilized and didn't feel he needed to have a backstory. Nolan did describe The Joker as being like the shark from Jaws.

Spider-Man 3? Still is a crappy movie.

 

[Chapter 2099]

Just wait till TDKR comes out

I'm building an underground safe room as we speak.

This will get ugly.

 

[a-dev]

I remember when Spiderman 2 was considered one of the best ever Superhero films. Anyone still hold to that? There seems to have been a big Raimi/maguire backlash ever since 3

 

[EVILFACE]

I put third best Marvel behind Iron Man and Avengers.

 

[hairlesswookiee]

I remember when Spiderman 2 was considered one of the best ever Superhero films. Anyone still hold to that? There seems to have been a big Raimi/maguire backlash ever since 3

It's still in my top 5 superhero films. It did the duality thing in a movie before it was cool to do the duality thing in a movie.

 

[BadMoon]

I remember when Spiderman 2 was considered one of the best ever Superhero films. Anyone still hold to that? There seems to have been a big Raimi/maguire backlash ever since 3

Better things come out. When Spiderman came out many said it was the best superhero movie ever. Then 2 came out. I don't have a problem with that.

 

[a-dev]

Yeah I still love the first 2 Spiderman films. The third I can tolerate. 2 would probably make my top 5 superhero films aswell.

 

[IrishJedi]

Avengers was great, but nobody came 1/10th as close at churning out a performance like Heath.

Tom Hiddleston's Loki is pretty damn great, you mewling quim.