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Re: The Batman film directed by Matt Reeves...again

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Insomnia was a really good little movie. I need to watch it again.
 
Re: The Batman film directed by Matt Reeves...again

The Prestige is my favorite by him. Mainly because it was the last move I watched with my mother. :(
 
Re: The Batman film directed by Matt Reeves...again

Im not huge Marvel fan so I cant compare MCU movies to the comics/source material. But youre right, no hate like the DCEU gets.
IMO the DCEU could do wayyyy better, even with liberties taken. They just need someone from DC to guide them. Hopefully with Johns involved now we'll see more accurate depictions. As far as story and direction... idk fire the guy that does the recruiting. I get more enjoyment out of the animated movies then the high budget live action films.
 
Re: The Batman film directed by Matt Reeves...again

Im not huge Marvel fan so I cant compare MCU movies to the comics/source material. But youre right, no hate like the DCEU gets.
IMO the DCEU could do wayyyy better, even with liberties taken. They just need someone from DC to guide them. Hopefully with Johns involved now we'll see more accurate depictions. As far as story and direction... idk fire the guy that does the recruiting. I get more enjoyment out of the animated movies then the high budget live action films.
The hard thing for me is that I loved Marvel and DC as a kid and teenager. So I want both "universes" to exceed equally on the big screen, but DC has fallen flat outside of the Nolan stuff for me. Marvel isn't great, but it's really good on balance. My unrealistic hope is that DC will use the out they gave themselves (apparently, according to IrishJedi) in BvS, and just say the Nolanverse was one universe of many, and move away from it into something wholly different. They can say that this was the bleak universe where Superman gets corrupted and becomes the dictator of Earth, while the "real" Earth-1 type earth is something driven from a different creative approach. They can still go with a kind of realism if they really want to (though ironically, that realistic approach makes a lot more sense in the Marvel than DC universe), but get someone who doesn't enjoy Watchmen for all the wrong reasons like Snyder does, and fantasizes about Batman rape scenarios. I think Crisis on Infinite Earths was a good example of mixing a fairly dark story with consequences (or at least, it seemed that way at the time!) with these iconic characters who weren't all corrupted by the darkness around them. But instead maintained their ideals and never felt like they were being burdened, or that they were complicit in everything.

I've mentioned this before, but the best Superman story I've ever read is Alan Moore's Supreme, which was another way of reconciling different versions of the character (including the gritty, violent version Liefeld came up with) with the "true" version of Superman that was imbued with a simplicity, likability, idealism, and optimism. Bring in Krypto the Superdog, Supergirl, Kandor, Mxyzptlk, Titano, Red Kryptonite, the Bizarro earth, etc. If I can't imagine these things happening, then someone is getting Superman wrong. And as goes Superman, so goes the DC Universe.
 
Re: The Batman film directed by Matt Reeves...again

Im not huge Marvel fan so I cant compare MCU movies to the comics/source material. But youre right, no hate like the DCEU gets.
IMO the DCEU could do wayyyy better, even with liberties taken. They just need someone from DC to guide them. Hopefully with Johns involved now we'll see more accurate depictions. As far as story and direction... idk fire the guy that does the recruiting. I get more enjoyment out of the animated movies then the high budget live action films.

as far as marvel goes (or the DC Hate)

Imagine we got Thor first and then jumped right into Avengers. Imagine thats how we got the marvel universe.
Then Imagine we got Guardians of the galaxy Next after Avengers 1....... then the next movie would be ultron....

Im saying Thor first because man of Steel is not the quality of Iron man 1. so that would not be a fair comparison. Man of steel- BvS- suicide squad would be like Thor- Avengers-Guardians of the galaxy....

Imagine if the first movie that Iron Man and capt america are introduced was avengers..... jesus :lol
 
Re: The Batman film directed by Matt Reeves...again

as far as marvel goes (or the DC Hate)

Imagine we got Thor first and then jumped right into Avengers. Imagine thats how we got the marvel universe.
Then Imagine we got Guardians of the galaxy Next after Avengers 1....... then the next movie would be ultron....

Im saying Thor first because man of Steel is not the quality of Iron man 1. so that would not be a fair comparison. Man of steel- BvS- suicide squad would be like Thor- Avengers-Guardians of the galaxy....

Imagine if the first movie that Iron Man and capt america are introduced was avengers..... jesus :lol

I meant DCEU gets hated on significantly more than the MCU.

My point exactly. However, I think you can have concurrent story lines wo jeopardizing a timeline. Im not sure though when MOS was made, they were thinking a segway to Suicide Squad and BvS, they were after thoughts hence the cramming.
 
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I meant DCEU gets hated on significantly more than the MCU.

My point exactly. However, I think you can have concurrent story lines wo jeopardizing a timeline. Im not sure though when MOS was made, they were thinking a segway to Suicide Squad and BvS, they were after thoughts hence the cramming.

im not marvel lover or defender but i think people were eased into their universe little by little. we were given small bites of the pie. the build up was interesting enough to keep watching.
sure they are family friendly pop corn movies but they took their time. each movie feels like chapters of a book, a big book. people might give them a pass now because the journey was not as abrupt. even if some marvel movies suck, the overall journey is pretty much smooth.

there truly is no reason to have batman versus superman at all, it wasnt earned. it doesnt make sense story wise or thematically. having batman versus superman right after man of steel feels like middle school fan fiction. we barely just met this superman guy, he barely just had a fight. batman needed a less messy intro.
the batman and flash cameos on suicide squad are forced. suicide squad story makes no sense when wonder woman and batman exist in that universe. where were they? now we go back in time to see wonder woman....
the dc universe feels like chapters of different books together. feels like the messiest collage of books.

as family friendly and safe as marvel is at least they never created that many bumps in their road. it still feels like reading one big single book. dc universe as it is feels like reading 3 different magazines at once
 
Re: The Batman film directed by Matt Reeves...again

The hard thing for me is that I loved Marvel and DC as a kid and teenager. So I want both "universes" to exceed equally on the big screen, but DC has fallen flat outside of the Nolan stuff for me. Marvel isn't great, but it's really good on balance. My unrealistic hope is that DC will use the out they gave themselves (apparently, according to IrishJedi) in BvS, and just say the Nolanverse was one universe of many, and move away from it into something wholly different. They can say that this was the bleak universe where Superman gets corrupted and becomes the dictator of Earth, while the "real" Earth-1 type earth is something driven from a different creative approach. They can still go with a kind of realism if they really want to (though ironically, that realistic approach makes a lot more sense in the Marvel than DC universe), but get someone who doesn't enjoy Watchmen for all the wrong reasons like Snyder does, and fantasizes about Batman rape scenarios. I think Crisis on Infinite Earths was a good example of mixing a fairly dark story with consequences (or at least, it seemed that way at the time!) with these iconic characters who weren't all corrupted by the darkness around them. But instead maintained their ideals and never felt like they were being burdened, or that they were complicit in everything.

I've mentioned this before, but the best Superman story I've ever read is Alan Moore's Supreme, which was another way of reconciling different versions of the character (including the gritty, violent version Liefeld came up with) with the "true" version of Superman that was imbued with a simplicity, likability, idealism, and optimism. Bring in Krypto the Superdog, Supergirl, Kandor, Mxyzptlk, Titano, Red Kryptonite, the Bizarro earth, etc. If I can't imagine these things happening, then someone is getting Superman wrong. And as goes Superman, so goes the DC Universe.

So this is what WB being pwned by kara looks like. :lol
 
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Whenever I hear hate for BvS, I just thank snyder for .........



That should have been the opening sequence in a solo Bats film or Batman's intro in BVS. ...minus Martha, because that would make no sense in the beginning.

It's hard to hate on that sequence, BUT :)lol) the film took too long to get to it. You have to endure, Lois Lame's detective work, 50 year old Bruce still dealing with mommy issues, emo Sups doing nothing because some people don't like him, forgettable chase that ends with Sups and Bats face off, lame Lex Luthor, Ghost Pa Kent giving lame speeches, and underwhelming BVS fight.
 
Re: The Batman film directed by Matt Reeves...again

BvS was good. The Injustice future sequence was my fav scene and it looked amazing in 15/70.
 
Re: The Batman film directed by Matt Reeves...again

im not marvel lover or defender but i think people were eased into their universe little by little. we were given small bites of the pie. the build up was interesting enough to keep watching.
sure they are family friendly pop corn movies but they took their time. each movie feels like chapters of a book, a big book. people might give them a pass now because the journey was not as abrupt. even if some marvel movies suck, the overall journey is pretty much smooth.

there truly is no reason to have batman versus superman at all, it wasnt earned. it doesnt make sense story wise or thematically. having batman versus superman right after man of steel feels like middle school fan fiction. we barely just met this superman guy, he barely just had a fight. batman needed a less messy intro.
the batman and flash cameos on suicide squad are forced. suicide squad story makes no sense when wonder woman and batman exist in that universe. where were they? now we go back in time to see wonder woman....
the dc universe feels like chapters of different books together. feels like the messiest collage of books.

as family friendly and safe as marvel is at least they never created that many bumps in their road. it still feels like reading one big single book. dc universe as it is feels like reading 3 different magazines at once

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Re: The Batman film directed by Matt Reeves...again

You're all wrong. The best part was the jar of piss. Much symbolism. Such smartness. W(orld)o(f)W(arcraft).
 
Re: The Batman film directed by Matt Reeves...again

best was superman killing that dude in africa using a wall
 
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