The Batman (June 25, 2021)

[SNIKT1950]

Re: Ben Affleck Batman film

Yawn

Superhero action in TWS/CW > any boring intellectual auteur crap you like to throw around these parts

Just as you're entitled to enjoy brain-dead movies like CW, I'm entitled to demand more from my CBMs.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Re: Ben Affleck Batman film

Yawn

Superhero action in TWS/CW > any boring intellectual auteur crap you like to throw around these parts

I saw DOFP last week, and I have to say, the characters use their powers better and in more creative and dynamic ways than in any of the MCU films.

The only great action in the MCU is just the H2H combat, which is nice...but when it comes to showing off powers and abilities, not so much. Hopefully that changes in IW.

Just as you're entitled to enjoy brain-dead movies like CW, I'm entitled to demand more from my CBMs.

Why not both?

 

[DiFabio]

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I do think the Civil War airport battle is pretty ****ing stupid (and extremely ugly looking to boot). I was really surprised that people were jerking off to it online after I saw it opening night. It's like, "Teh colorful heroes are slapping each other and making teh funnies XD. Spooderman made a Stah wahs reference XD". The only part I thought was cool and creative about that sequence was Ant-Man.

The DC movies are no better though. They're better looking and shot better, but man are most of the decisions bad. Yeah they got the Batman warehouse scene to their credit, but they also have Batman swinging a CGI Superman around on a lasso.

 

[YoNoSe]

Re: Ben Affleck Batman film

Nice to see the youtube shepherd who made the "Marvel movies are ugly" vid is steering effectively.

He should have dinner with John Landis' disappointing kid.

 

[DiFabio]

Re: Ben Affleck Batman film

Nice to see the youtube shepherd who made the "Marvel movies are ugly" vid is steering effectively.

People, myself included said that before he even made that video. People have said the Marvel movies look like television shows since The First Avenger.

 

[YoNoSe]

Re: Ben Affleck Batman film

People, myself included said that before he even made that video. People have said the Marvel movies look like television shows since The First Avenger.

Pretentious people looking for a hook said Avengers looked too much like TV (because Whedon has TV background, presumably). I've never read/heard anyone level that at another Marvel movie.

 

[SNIKT1950]

Re: Ben Affleck Batman film

I do think the Civil War airport battle is pretty ****ing stupid (and extremely ugly looking to boot). I was really surprised that people were jerking off to it online after I saw it opening night. It's like, "Teh colorful heroes are slapping each other and making teh funnies XD. Spooderman made a Stah wahs reference XD".

My thoughts exactly.

But Feige, a self-proclaimed fan of Bay's Transformers movies figured out that there's a massive audience for light and fun CGI-heavy comic book movies [for kids].

What's frustrating is that ten years ago the fandom was murdering Tom Rothman online for doing that very same thing over at FOX but now have their blinders on with this very mediocre and uninspired Marvel Cinematic Universe.

Its as if everyone forgot how floored and reinvigorated we were by the seriousness and cerebral approach that Nolan brought to Batman Begins. That movie came out the same year as garbage like Elektra & Fantastic Four.

The fact that the MCU is currently top dog in this genre is evidence that most people don't wanna think much during their CBMs. They just wanna see safe action and hear funny one-liners from costumed heroes for 90 minutes until the credits roll, much like the still ongoing & very successful Bayformers franchise.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Re: Ben Affleck Batman film

The video about the MCU color grading was on point. The guy clearly knows what he's talking about and proved it...assuming we are talking about the same video.

 

[crows]

Re: Ben Affleck Batman film

I do think the Civil War airport battle is pretty ****ing stupid (and extremely ugly looking to boot). I was really surprised that people were jerking off to it online after I saw it opening night. It's like, "Teh colorful heroes are slapping each other and making teh funnies XD. Spooderman made a Stah wahs reference XD". The only part I thought was cool and creative about that sequence was Ant-Man.

The DC movies are no better though. They're better looking and shot better, but man are most of the decisions bad. Yeah they got the Batman warehouse scene to their credit, but they also have Batman swinging a CGI Superman around on a lasso.

I definitely jerked it at least twice when airport scene was leaked.
I totally got off

 

[DiFabio]

Re: Ben Affleck Batman film

Pretentious people looking for a hook said Avengers looked too much like TV (because Whedon has TV background, presumably). I've never read/heard anyone level that at another Marvel movie.

I loved the Avengers. It does look like **** though, most of the Marvel movies do. I didn't mind the cinematography and look of Guardians of the Galaxy though, even if it could have been tweaked to look a little better.

 

[YoNoSe]

Re: Ben Affleck Batman film

I loved the Avengers. It does look like **** though, most of the Marvel movies do. I didn't mind the cinematography and look of Guardians of the Galaxy though, even if it could have been tweaked to look a little better.

They may not be the most cinematic movies, but there are far, far worse out there. Success just paints a target. I mean, SNIKT is making Kevin Feige a household name.

 

[SNIKT1950]

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Success just paints a target.

Nah, big numbers at the box office don't indicate quality works and a body of work that's mostly forgettable and mediocre is hardly worth deeming a "success".

That's why whenever Chris Evans gets asked what his best films are he always replies Sunshine & Snowpiercer.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

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That's why whenever Chris Evans gets asked what his best films are he always replies Sunshine & Snowpiercer.

Yeah, but that's because most actors don't care about superhero films. Do you really think the actors in the Nolan films or the DCEU feel differently? Nah...to them it's just silly rubber costumes. Even Bale is already trashing his Batman character from the Nolan films.

Vigo Mortensen did the same with the LOTR...

 

[Khev]

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CBM discussions are pretty much the same as political discussions at this point. The same people level the same criticisms at every movie released by ["rival studio x"] regardless of whether its warranted or not. I don't ever see a cbm and then come back here and think "I wonder what so and so thought of that" because I know the answer before the films are even released (save for a small handful of non-partisan folks.)

I know exactly who's going to scoff at anything good done by the MCU, I know who'll instantly dismiss the DCEU, who will never give a new SW film props, and so on. So predictable, repetitive and boring.

Which is why me ripping on the PT and Cap's Avengers uniform is so legit.

 

[Wor-Gar]

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big numbers at the box office don't indicate quality works

I agree with this totally.

But I don't think good actors are ever 'proud' of the endearing heroes that they are famous for: Connery hated Bond, Ford never pointed to Han or Indy, on and on it has always been.

There are a few exceptions: Depp loves Sparrow (especially now) and Arnold has never been prouder than his "I'll be back" persona.

 

[DiFabio]

Re: Ben Affleck Batman film

Yeah, but that's because most actors don't care about superhero films. Do you really think the actors in the Nolan films or the DCEU feel differently? Nah...to them it's just silly rubber costumes. Even Bale is already trashing his Batman character from the Nolan films.

DC or Marvel, Dr. Wertham was right, comic book superheroes are trash.

 

[YoNoSe]

Re: Ben Affleck Batman film

Nah, big numbers at the box office don't indicate quality works and a body of work that's mostly forgettable and mediocre is hardly worth deeming a "success".

Repeating the same statements ad nauseum and obsessing over a movie producer you don't like doesn't make your insular thinking any more truthful. Your posts are a much better example of repetitive tedium than that which you're attempting to criticise. And the Kevin Feige thing...yikes, man.

 

[jye4ever]

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Just as you're entitled to enjoy brain-dead movies like CW, I'm entitled to demand more from my CBMs.

I also demanded more after the elite auteur intellect Nolan with all of his cinematic super sophistication delivered the horrendous TDKR with its 3rd grade action scenes.

The MCU answered my prayers.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Re: Ben Affleck Batman film

DC or Marvel, Dr. Wertham was right, comic book superheroes are trash.

That's because he never owned a Hot Toys doll.

 

[EVILFACE]

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Newb Calling People Out On Comic Book Movies!!

I agree with this totally.

But I don't think good actors are ever 'proud' of the endearing heroes that they are famous for: Connery hated Bond, Ford never pointed to Han or Indy, on and on it has always been.

There are a few exceptions: Depp loves Sparrow (especially now) and Arnold has never been prouder than his "I'll be back" persona.

RDJ has to love stark since they are the same character.