The Book Of Boba Fett (December 2021)

[Asta]

Sounds like Star Wars alright.

 

[Kebron]

He was able to observe the tribe when they dragged him through the sand behind a Bantha. Then he was able to observe them for at least a full day before nightfall. He did observe the tribe.

Him escaping into the desert is not a death sentence. He seemed quite aware of where he needed to go, Anchorhead, and the direction he needed to take to get there. A Sarlacc pit is a death sentence. He survived. Sitting days under twin suns unconscious is a death sentence. He survived. Fighting a six appendage monster while in chains is a death sentence. He survived. This is supposed to be Boba Fett.

And let’s assume it is a death sentence. Why didn’t he escape after killing the monster? They spent hours digging up water. He had water to take back with him. He still goes back. Why? What is the reason for that?

I have thought plenty about what is happening. Everyone likes throwing around “headcannon” but so far the only headcannon I see is when it is used to defend this poorly written show. These are all assumptions you are making in your head. We don’t see the growth, you are imagining it. (That isn’t meant to be disrespectful or rude.)

When drastically changing a known established character such as Fett, some exposition is needed. Some hints are needed. Some reason for such a change is needed. We got nothing to show for it on screen. Nothing. Not a intriguing head turn. Not studying the Tusken’s. Not a flashback to his past explaining to respect enemies. It was a light switch. They turned Boba into this other character just like that.

That goes against everything in Star Wars. Did Anakin turn evil instantly? No, it was built up over three movies and the dots were easy to connect. Same with Han Solo turning into a scoundrel to a mostly good guy scoundrel. Even Din went from complete to the job to visibly loving Grogu.

Is anyone going to answer my questions? Or just give me some drawn up theory in their head defending this awful storytelling?

Watching people ride a Bantha is not observing them. He was still under the assumption they were going to kill him once back at the tribe. pay attention to the acting. Once at the tribe he started plotting a escape, the only thing he was observing was his chances to escape, he wasn't observing his actual safety with them or their plans for him. Watch the acting and listen to how he talks the fear is there. It's not head canon.

A Sarlacc pit isn't a death sentence if you go in there with equipment. He had equipment. A person can't survive days in a desert without water, 2-3 at most and that's being generous when factoring in exertion and being wounded, the Tuskens clearly gave him water and Boba would know that. We've seen people take down huge monsters being unarmed before. Point of fact Boba wasn't unarmed he had a chain which can be a weapon, and he did use it as such, he also had the kid who unintentionally distracted the monster allowing him to jump on the back and strangle it (if I remember the fight right) he wouldn't have beat it without the distraction. None of your examples hold up under some thought and my answers are not head canon, its simply logical thought.

Two thoughts on why he went back after digging up the water. The only equipment he had was a chain, and he still had no idea where he really was. Remember he was unconscious for most of that Bantha trip. As we just seen Tatoonie is rife with deadly beasts, he got lucky against the one he just killed. Second he realized he has a in with the Tribe cause he just saved the kid, which means resources he could use later to get back to civilization.

Funny you mention head canon. What have we've seen in the movies that shows Fett is this deadly Bounty Hunter? There's some talk, but I don't recall any examples pre Mandalorian of him doing anything other then looking cool and getting pushed into a Sarlacc Pit, he didnt even captue Han Solo, Vader gift wrapped him in Carbonite and gave him to Fett for finding him. However after that one Episode of Mando where we see him wreck those Stormtroopers, but that's after the encounter we are now seeing with the Tuskens. Based off that perhaps his rep was ill deserved and the true deadly Fett we saw in Mando is due to his time with the Tuskens?

As I illustrated above we have nothing on screen that supports this deadly unbeatable version of Fett you keep referencing. So they are drastically changing nothing, Fett is mostly a blank slate character wise looking at the movies and TV shows, which is what is canon for the general public and most of the fanbase.

Two thoughts on why he went back after digging up the water. The only equipment he had was a chain, and he still had no idea where he really was. Remember he was unconscious for most of that Bantha trip. As we just seen Tatoonie is rife with deadly beasts, he got lucky against the one he just killed. Second he realized he has a in with the Tribe cause he just saved the kid, which means resources he could use later to get back to civilization.

You list Anakin, Din, and Han as examples of character arcs, Book of Boba Fett is Fett's character arc that explains him.

I've answered your questions, you just don't like the answers so you wont accept them and will wave them off to keep beating the drum you are beating. You keep saying others use head canon, but all your arguments are nothing but head canon. We have no evidence of Boba being a deadly unbeatable Bounty Hunter till after Mando season 2. We have all imagined this cool looking guy in armor is the ultimate bad #### in Star Wars but we have never seen it, or even know his story....until Book of Boba Fett.

 

[ZE_501]

Two thoughts on why he went back after digging up the water. The only equipment he had was a chain, and he still had no idea where he really was. Remember he was unconscious for most of that Bantha trip. As we just seen Tatoonie is rife with deadly beasts, he got lucky against the one he just killed. Second he realized he has a in with the Tribe cause he just saved the kid, which means resources he could use later to get back to civilization.

I'll give you this. Wherever his ship was, he had no way to contact it remotely with his armour gone, and was in the middle of a hostile desert so had to take his chances with his captors.

As I illustrated above we have nothing on screen that supports this deadly unbeatable version of Fett you keep referencing.

Well that depends who you ask. I don't really consume other SW media but apparently his deadly unbeatable-ness is well established and (I think?) canonical. Comics, The Clone Wars etc. -- Lucas used to say films trumped all other media in terms of canonical veracity, but I don't know if that holds true for Disney's vertical integrated marketing model.

Leaving that out, it's heavily implied on screen that he's an experienced and notorious bounty hunter; employed by no less than the Dark Lord of the Sith, with a lethal reputation. He's shown to be very strategic and cunning (not 'unbeatable' but savvy as hell).

There are moments in this show that make sense for Strategic Fett.

Spoiler

Rather than slaughtering the Syndicate goons and starting a costly war (note the casualties against these guys were quite high) he looked ahead and negotiated, positioning them as a power and potential asset to the Syndicate's profiteering -- for a small fee.

Where this falls down for me is the overall characterization (art direction and other questionable creative choices aside) of Fett where we just don't see that cunning veteran enough. The story is not complex and does not need to be, it's a straightforward popcorn genre. My contention is the execution. You can get there in style or with awkward and dissonant beats that need to be apologized for. The show -- for me and a number of people here -- lacks the required style. If you enjoy it, fine.

 

[NAZGUL-KING]

I like the show and don't plan on giving up on it...but, it definitely isn't what I originally envisioned or hoped for. With only 7 episodes (some with fairly short run times), I was really hoping for at least a big wow moment by now. The back story is necessary and interesting but is a little too drawn out and the best BF moments we've had so far was in Season 2 of Mando IMO.

Oh, and what the hell is the deal with Star Wars and train heists in recent years?

 

[chrisstbh]

Hmm

 

[matticus]

Apparently the Star Wars universe revolves around Tatooine, a back water planet that literally offers nothing to the galaxy. I'd like to see the bounty hunter Boba Fett, but we are not getting that. Might not even get flashbacks to those days.

Not like Disney has not delivered on any beloved characters from the OT right? Han abandons family, Luke abandons everyone, Leia doesn't greet Chewie and uses uber force powers, R2 and 3PO and Chewie all wasted as cameo characters. Add Boba to the WTF did they do to this character list.

Tatooine.

Sand.

Tusken Raiders. Again. And again.

Oh a Star Wars train. That's new right?

Just a cheap production reason to reuse all of the prior equipment from Mando.

Boba Fatt aka Tusken Fatt aka Robin Hood aka Paul Atreides. Where is Clown saying this is a ripoff of Dune? Certainly getting more and more that way.

You really think Hutts would take an insult like that in the streets?

As pointed out earlier, looks like Fett will be taking on all the Tatooine gangs/Hutts and then utilizing the Tuskens at some big end battle.

Mando show is Boba Fett. This is some Godfather Western wannabe that just doesn't fit the character nor is it very creative. First swing and a miss from Favreau in a long time.

And Fennec still shot calling the place. She is a better character than Boba at this point.

 

[NAZGUL-KING]

Apparently the Star Wars universe revolves around Tatooine, a back water planet that literally offers nothing to the galaxy. I'd like to see the bounty hunter Boba Fett, but we are not getting that. Might not even get flashbacks to those days.

Not like Disney has not delivered on any beloved characters from the OT right? Han abandons family, Luke abandons everyone, Leia doesn't greet Chewie and uses uber force powers, R2 and 3PO and Chewie all wasted as cameo characters. Add Boba to the WTF did they do to this character list.

Tatooine.

Sand.

Tusken Raiders. Again. And again.

Oh a Star Wars train. That's new right?

Just a cheap production reason to reuse all of the prior equipment from Mando.

Boba Fatt aka Tusken Fatt aka Robin Hood aka Paul Atreides. Where is Clown saying this is a ripoff of Dune? Certainly getting more and more that way.

You really think Hutts would take an insult like that in the streets?

As pointed out earlier, looks like Fett will be taking on all the Tatooine gangs/Hutts and then utilizing the Tuskens at some big end battle.

Mando show is Boba Fett. This is some Godfather Western wannabe that just doesn't fit the character nor is it very creative. First swing and a miss from Favreau in a long time.

I'm hoping the last line of the Season is BF: "Screw this crime lord ********, bounty hunting is easier"

 

[Otomofan]

The only thing I see as "out of character" in the flashbacks is the way he asked the Rodian if he wanted him to free him. That really came off as just out of the goodness of his heart. If he had said, "Hey Rodian, let's you and me team up and get the hell out of here!" that would have made more sense cause it was in his self-interest.

Now, the part where he kills the monster and has the chance to run away....why the hell would he run away?? He knows when he goes walking back there with that kid and the monster's head, they're gonna see that he was perfectly capable of killing the kid but he didn't. He knew he wasn't gonna get treated as badly as before...he was coming to them with leverage, basically.

His options were either go back knowing that they had resources and were less likely to kill him now, or to just go running off into the desert. I never questioned that for a second.

 

[Asta]

Hmm

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It got better after he beat up the Hells Angels.

The train heist was good.

Tusken Driver's Ed. was funny.

There's a lot of intentional comedy, from the Womp Rat coming through the Rancor gate, Tusken ineptitude and the droid throwing itself off the train, before scuttling off like Roger from American Dad. I suppose this is because we don't have Grogu around to provide light hearted moments.


This might've been a longer episode, but there's fourteen minutes from the beginning that would've been better cut out. After that the only change would've been making the bikers less obviously Hells Angels.

 

[Kebron]

I'll give you this. Wherever his ship was, he had no way to contact it remotely with his armour gone, and was in the middle of a hostile desert so had to take his chances with his captors.

Well that depends who you ask. I don't really consume other SW media but apparently his deadly unbeatable-ness is well established and (I think?) canonical. Comics, The Clone Wars etc. -- Lucas used to say films trumped all other media in terms of canonical veracity, but I don't know if that holds true for Disney's vertical integrated marketing model.

Leaving that out, it's heavily implied on screen that he's an experienced and notorious bounty hunter; employed by no less than the Dark Lord of the Sith, with a lethal reputation. He's shown to be very strategic and cunning (not 'unbeatable' but savvy as hell).

There are moments in this show that make sense for Strategic Fett.

Spoiler

Rather than slaughtering the Syndicate goons and starting a costly war (note the casualties against these guys were quite high) he looked ahead and negotiated, positioning them as a power and potential asset to the Syndicate's profiteering -- for a small fee.

Where this falls down for me is the overall characterization (art direction and other questionable creative choices aside) of Fett where we just don't see that cunning veteran enough. The story is not complex and does not need to be, it's a straightforward popcorn genre. My contention is the execution. You can get there in style or with awkward and dissonant beats that need to be apologized for. The show -- for me and a number of people here -- lacks the required style. If you enjoy it, fine.

I haven't decided if I like it yet or not, waiting for the whole thing before passing judgment.

There are parts that I question such as him using a rocket at close range, not using his jet pack to attack from above.

For me and I think most general public, everything outside of films and TV is soft canon. I've read a few books, and a few comics, but I've never considered them hard canon because all IP that I know of including SW that say "books and comics are canon" have always wiped that away when someone gets a idea to do a new canon. I don't trust that Disney wont wipe the slate clean again at some point in the future.

His on screen mentions may or may not be basically urban legends of him. We all know stories get blown up especially when spread word of mouth. On screen pre Mando the only thing we've seen him do is track down Han. so I'll give you he's smart, and even strategic, but until Mando there was no bad A## bounty hunter.

I have no evidence of this but some of his actions which we see as stupid might be part of his strategy. For example, he wants to rule with respect not fear, so maybe him walking around without his helmet and letting people see him is away of showing that A) he's not afraid of them, he's willing to let his guard down because he knows he can bet them and B) With his helmet on he instills fear, but if you see the person under the helmet they are more relatable and it puts a person more at ease. and C) Not being willing to show your face to someone is dishonoring them, shows you don't trust them, because you have your guard up. Maybe using the rocket was a way of testing the shields strength, fire would of been reflected back and worse for him, and none of his other weapons that I've seen him use would of been effective. Using his jet pack would of left Fennic back open to attack and they might of killed her.

You mentioned that it doesnt need to be complex that it is a popcorn genre. I'd ask why does it need to be that? Why couldn't it be more complex?

 

[TurdFurgusonsHat]

Morrison was smiling like a ******* eating thistles during the Tusken drivers ed scenes. I swear he looks like my grandfather playing what is supposed to be a 35 year old post ROTJ Boba Fett.

 

[Asta]

This furry character was funny:

I was wondering if she was The Weasel's wife from The Suicide Squad.

Black Krrsantan was imposing.

 

[TurdFurgusonsHat]

Hmm

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Switch around "all" and "no" and it's a pretty accurate statement so far.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

He gets threatened by these Hutts. They have one wookie protecting him. Fett has himself, shand, and two Gammys. They threaten him. And he lets them leave? He could have just shot them and had a nice wookie fur for his throne, but nope! RESPECTZ ME! Oh and the scene gets worse since he needs permission to kill Hutts! Boba Fett needs permission!

At least he wore his helmet. I'll give him points for that.

Boba is stil with the Tuskens. Still has yet to be explained why. He wanted to escape the moment he could, but nope, now he is a Tusken Activist! He feels sorry for them. He helps them. For literally no damn reason. It would make sense if they were guarding his palace, but they aren’t! This entire thing is stupid.

Boba is kind of like Lawrence of Arabia now.

Boba says he will take the train and be back my morning. I was excited. Here is the Boba I know. Gonna take an armored train with a musket and stick. Nope! He beats up some drunks and steals a couple speeders.


Boba Fett trains Tuskens to ride a bike, erghh speeder bike.

When Boba was teaching the Tuskens how to ride bikes, I was a bit distracted by Boba's white teeth.

That smile was creeping me out.

 

[TurdFurgusonsHat]

This furry character was funny:

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I was wondering if she was The Weasel's wife from The Suicide Squad.


Black Krrsantan was imposing.

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That wookiee is the only character from the show so far that I have any interest in a HT.

 

[ZE_501]

You mentioned that it doesnt need to be complex that it is a popcorn genre. I'd ask why does it need to be that? Why couldn't it be more complex?

Even the most beloved Star Wars content of all time (things like ESB) are seen to be held together with tape and hand waving upon close inspection. I don't think it's unfair to say that these stories succeed or fail based on their simplicity and spectacle; when these elements have synergy a lot is forgiven and we get a fun ride.

Rogue One is an example of Star Wars with nuance and complexity. It's very good -- but tonally hard to slot in with the other stories because of that complexity. I'm not saying it should not be so, but it doesn't need to be in order to succeed. It would be wrong to judge something like Star Wars against the likes of Game of Thrones or The Wire etc. -- it's not built the same.

 

[Asta]

That wookiee is the only character from the show so far that I have any interest in a HT.

He's the only new character I could go for.

For old ones, I wouldn't mind 8D8.

 

[ZE_501]

This furry character was funny:

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Right out of a McQuarrie painting, if I recall right.

 

[greygoose]

Morrison was smiling like a ******* eating thistles during the Tusken drivers ed scenes. I swear he looks like my grandfather playing what is supposed to be a 35 year old post ROTJ Boba Fett.

Never thought about how old he would be - should Fett be mid-30's/40?

 

[Asta]

Right out of a McQuarrie painting, if I recall right.

She looked a bit like his early Chewbacca design, with the pointy ears, big eyes and sharp teeth.