The Book Of Boba Fett (December 2021)

[Sachiel]

His name and legacy were simply the hook to reel in longtime fans (aka "suckers") like me before unveiling the bait-and-switch.

I feel like this cat.

 

[Khev]

Cool that Boba Fett was given an ''I'm Batman'' moment......shame it was to intimidate a tiny Bunny Rabbit droid......

Well at least he succeeded, lol.

 

[Victοr]

Saw it. Eh, it was "okay" by the standards of this show. It's still as silly and nonsensical as a cartoon. It's still full of holes and delivers nothing particularly exciting or interesting. It's obviously made for corporate reasons rather than because they feel this is a story deserving to be told. Boba Fattso is still a daft git and Fennec's the real MC. Whatever, this isn't fun, I can't post colourful rants now...

 

[Khev]

To think all this could've been avoided had Favreau and co. just gave Boba his hallway scene.

Well they did give us Tython but hopefully there's at least one more in time for the finale.

Wow crazy that we're now four episodes into the seven episode season and he has yet to fire a single shot from either of his blasters while in armor.

 

[TurdFurgusonsHat]

Yeah, that exchange didn't bother me at all, and I don't get the uproar about the ship being renamed, as it seems they're merely avoiding the use of the name. If Firespray is the ship's type/classification then there hasn't been any renaming done yet whatsoever.

What a disingenuous load of bull****.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

I still can't believe Fennec was the one that killed the sarlacc, the monster that haunted Boba Fett's legacy for nearly forty years. Who wrote this show?

I never thought about Boba Fett returning to the sarlacc pit and blowing it up because it was too on the nose fanservice, but if you're going to do it, then the former VICTIM should be the one to exact revenge, not the newly introduced sidekick. It'd be like Robin killing Joe Chill instead of Batman, if Batman were ok with killing.

It's yet another moment where Boba is emasculated, while the stronger, smarter, more capable female hero finds the Slave 1, kills most of the bad guys, and kills the monster that ruined Boba Fett's legacy. And the only thing that our short, stocky, slow-witted, bald hero could muster was, "Don't touch my buttons again." That's not the only thing she's not going to touch that belongs to you buddy. What a f*****g cuck. I hope he dies in the last episode and Fennec takes over.

 

[jye4ever]

I still can't believe Fennec was the one that killed the sarlacc, the monster that haunted Boba Fett's legacy for nearly forty years. Who wrote this show?

I never thought about Boba Fett returning to the sarlacc pit and blowing it up because it was too on the nose fanservice, but if you're going to do it, then the former VICTIM should be the one to exact revenge, not the newly introduced sidekick. It'd be like Robin killing Joe Chill instead of Batman, if Batman were ok with killing.

It's yet another moment where Boba is emasculated, while the stronger, smarter, more capable female hero finds the Slave 1, kills most of the bad guys, and kills the monster that ruined Boba Fett's legacy. And the only thing that our short, stocky, slow-witted, bald hero could muster was, "Don't touch my buttons again." That's not the only thing she's not going to touch that belongs to you buddy. What a f*****g cuck. I hope he dies in the last episode and Fennec takes over.

SAVAGE
TRUTH
SAVAGE
TRUTH

 

[matticus]

"ajp4mgs said:

His name and legacy were simply the hook to reel in longtime fans (aka "suckers") like me before unveiling the bait-and-switch."

That is Disney to a T.

 

[Prime Clone]

Did George purposely make Boba a bumbling oaf in ROTJ so he wouldn't overshadow Vader? If so I guess this show just continues the theme...

To think, I thought Mando was sloppy failing to protect his ship and getting gunned down by Jawas.

 

[a-dev]

"ajp4mgs said:

His name and legacy were simply the hook to reel in longtime fans (aka "suckers") like me before unveiling the bait-and-switch."

That is Disney to a T.

That was another classic post from ajp.

I mean I get what Xipotec was saying about the pile-on so typical of Star Wars fandom these days, there's no doubt we've been doing that. Unfortunately I think it's justified in this case....

 

[Khev]

I can't help but be curious as to what the current generation of kids thinks about this current Fett so I decided to take an informal poll with my son (age 12.) I casually asked him a few questions just to see what he'd say:

1. Do you like Boba Fett? Do you think he's cool?

Yes

2. What do you like about him?

I think it's cool that he's in so many eras of SW (OT/PT/Mando/BOBF) and that he's a clone who wears Mandalorian armor.

3. Who do you like better, Jango or Boba?

Boba because we know so much more about him.

4. If Boba Fett, Jango Fett, Din Djarin, and Cad Bane were all in their prime and facing off against each other in a cemetery like at the end of The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly (we both just watched this again recently) who do you think would go down first? Who would be the last man standing?

Cad Bane goes down first because he has no Beskar. Not sure on who remains, too close to say.

5. If all four bounty hunters were hunting you who'd you be the most worried about?

Cad Bane because he seems the most evil.

6. If you had to pick one of the four bounty hunters to keep you alive who'd you choose?

Din Djarin since he did such a good job with Grogu.

7. Who do you think would do the best against a squad of Stormtroopers?

(laughing) Definitely Boba Fett

8. If you were a SW character and had to hire a bounty hunter to go get someone who would be your first choice?

Din Djarin since he has all the weapons of Boba and Jango plus the Beskar spear and Darksaber.

8. Who do you think looks the coolest?

Jango because of his blue and silver armor

Honestly I was pretty relieved at his answers, lol. I was totally prepared for Fett to be a distant fourth in coolness to the other three and that I'd be tempted to give him the "in my day this is why we all thought Fett was cool" speech. But I'm just glad that he genuinely likes the character and thinks he's on the same level as any other major bounty hunter in Star Wars, even if he thinks one or more of them my edge him out for certain tasks.

 

[TurdFurgusonsHat]

As I said because:

1. It doesn't sync with the original theatrical Fett (but neither does the Daniel Logan/TM version that George changed him to)
2. The campiness and unintentional humor is *genuinely* entertaining and is actually quite charming.

Now I'm guessing your response to #2 above will be "no it most certainly isn't" which is fine, but also too bad. Being angry or disgusted about this stuff isn't any fun which is what this series is primarily about. But as I mentioned to Wor-Gar recently nobody really needs any new SW content, it's all gravy from here on out so if any of this rubs anyone the wrong way there's still a ton of other stuff to enjoy.



I can understand that.


We can also assume that George changed Fett from a white actor in a suit with a white actor's voice to a non-white face and voice for political correctness just like they are doing with Slave I. Because *nothing* suggests that George made any effort to cast someone that actually looked and sounded like the character we saw in the OT. And if you can accept a politically correct Boba Fett then a politically correct "Boba Fett's Starship" doesn't seem like that much of an additional stretch.

All I ask is that the change be an organic one (like putting new actors in Vader and Chewie's suits when Prowse and Mayhew were no longer able/alive that actually had similar physiques as their predecessors.) Or Ewan McGregor at least trying to speak with an accent and cadence similar to Sir Alec. And so on. And having Fett specify the class of his ship *when it actually made sense within the context of that particular conversation* is something that I would call an "organic change." Same with his reformed character simply renaming it to fit his new ideology. That to me is much better than pretending that it was never called Slave I and going back and re-recording Aurra Sing's dialogue in TCW where she called it that (which is exactly what George did with Fett's lines in ESB:SE, which you seem to accept.)

Bear in mind that your take and preferences are more than valid, I'm just calling out my different perspective for the sake of discussion.

This series isn't "primarily about fun". It's about making a fast buck off a very poorly produced show that capitalizes on Boba Fett's popularity while reimagining him into something he never was but something more palatable to the Kennedy led Lucasfilm regime. It's about renaming the Slave 1 because society has insanely run amok. Boba Fett my @ss, this is Boba Fett in name only. Candy colored scooters, techno tattoo parlors, Fett chasing around a robo-bunny as if he is in a Tom and Jerry skit, etc etc. I don't know what the **** I'm watching but it sure isn't Star Wars.

 

[Wor-Gar]

I still can't believe Fennec was the one that killed the sarlacc

It's yet another moment where Boba is emasculated, while the stronger, smarter, more capable female hero finds the Slave 1, kills most of the bad guys, and kills the monster that ruined Boba Fett's legacy. And the only thing that our short, stocky, slow-witted, bald hero could muster was, "Don't touch my buttons again." That's not the only thing she's not going to touch that belongs to you buddy. What a f*****g cuck. I hope he dies in the last episode and Fennec takes over.

It will hurt more when Fennec dies.

 

[Khev]

I still can't believe Fennec was the one that killed the sarlacc, the monster that haunted Boba Fett's legacy for nearly forty years. Who wrote this show?

I never thought about Boba Fett returning to the sarlacc pit and blowing it up because it was too on the nose fanservice, but if you're going to do it, then the former VICTIM should be the one to exact revenge, not the newly introduced sidekick. It'd be like Robin killing Joe Chill instead of Batman, if Batman were ok with killing.

It's yet another moment where Boba is emasculated, while the stronger, smarter, more capable female hero finds the Slave 1, kills most of the bad guys, and kills the monster that ruined Boba Fett's legacy. And the only thing that our short, stocky, slow-witted, bald hero could muster was, "Don't touch my buttons again." That's not the only thing she's not going to touch that belongs to you buddy. What a f*****g cuck. I hope he dies in the last episode and Fennec takes over.

Honestly that ticked me off initially too but I suppose it is keeping with SW tradition in that Jabba hounded Han for the entire OT only to have his woman kill him in the end. I don't think that Fennec was shown to be more capable though, Fett just was preoccupied with his armor and this newly reformed version doesn't harm animals anyway, lol.

 

[Khev]

This series isn't "primarily about fun". It's about making a fast buck off a very poorly produced show that capitalizes on Boba Fett's popularity while reimagining him into something he never was but something more palatable to the Kennedy led Lucasfilm regime. It's about renaming the Slave 1 because society has insanely run amok. Boba Fett my @ss, this is Boba Fett in name only. Candy colored scooters, techno tattoo parlors, Fett chasing around a robo-bunny as if he is in a Tom and Jerry skit, etc etc. I don't know what the **** I'm watching but it sure isn't Star Wars.

See that's what I think makes it fun, and what RR was going for. I recognize that my unironic enjoyment of this show does put me on the fringest of fringes though.

(For the record if this show connecting seamlessly to the original theatrical OT was a dealbreaking requirement for me then yes I'd be just as dismissive as the rest of you.)

 

[Sachiel]

It will hurt more when Fennec dies.

She'll get her own spin-off along with the Firespray gunship™.

 

[Khev]

Did George purposely make Boba a bumbling oaf in ROTJ so he wouldn't overshadow Vader? If so I guess this show just continues the theme...

To think, I thought Mando was sloppy failing to protect his ship and getting gunned down by Jawas.

Funny after just saying that this Fett in no way syncs with the OT I could absolutely seeing BOBF Fett doing exactly what ROTJ Fett did, lol.

 

[TurdFurgusonsHat]

You make a good point about the redundancy of piling on, and I've done enough of it here that it's time for me to back away from the thread. This last episode, despite arguably being the best of these first four, pissed me off the most, so I have nothing positive to say. But since you asked the question of what did people want to see from this show, I'd like to answer that question. Then I'll try my best to avoid more piling on.

I wanted to see Boba Fett being Boba Fett. I wanted to see the character I was introduced to (with a good amount of marketing and fanfare) more than 40 years ago but who was given very little time on screen. That character was a villain. A guy who collected bounties; sometimes by ruthless disintegration, and sometimes in whatever manner allowed him to wear the victim's scalp as a braided trophy. He worked alone. He said little. He had a reputation that merited respect from the most feared and evil man in the galaxy (Vader). He was cunning and proficient. I wanted to see *that* guy as a crime boss, to make up for the lack of getting to see that guy as a bounty hunter.

But none of those characteristics are present in the current iteration of the character. He's not a villain; though we'd have every reason to think he was going to be as a *crime boss* on Tatooine. He's a good guy, in every sense of that phrase; he explicitly says he would like to see fewer people die and he only goes after bad guys who threaten him or have done him wrong. I wouldn't be entirely opposed to eventually ending his arc by turning him into the good guy anti-hero, but only *after* OG Fett got plenty of screen time being OG Fett. Instead, they bypassed that guy and went straight to the nicer guy version.

He isn't a man of few words now; he speaks a ton. He isn't proficient; he's clumsy enough to ineptly chase a rabbit droid through a kitchen like a ******* clown. He isn't cunning; he comes up with the stupidest ideas and fails to spot vulnerabilities. He certainly isn't ruthless. He's not a bounty hunter. He doesn't work alone; he believes in being part of a tribe (even though all that got him was a dead tribe). He isn't respected; characters even tell him this to his face.

This is quite literally a completely different character in every way except for name, a helmet, and some armor. There's nothing about this show that makes it more compelling by having the main character be "Boba Fett" rather than be some completely new character who gives up a life of bounty hunting to pursue more autonomy with some benevolent intent. His name and legacy were simply the hook to reel in longtime fans (aka "suckers") like me before unveiling the bait-and-switch.

Robert Rodriguez talked about how this great character was underserved for so many years, and that now they get to give fans actual stories of the Boba Fett they grew up wanting more of. Well, for me this isn't anything remotely similar to the Boba Fett I grew up with, and I already enumerated the reasons why. It's a rebrand into a more soft and cuddly Boba Fett. And for anyone rationalizing it as "character evolution," I hope they at least understand that while that's true, this "evolution" comes without having been given any further glimpse of the original version of the character beyond the few minutes we got in the OT.

It also barely qualifies as an evolution since the end result is a complete departure from virtually everything the character used to be. It also comes at the expense of exchanging one of the few notable and awesome villains in the Star Wars universe for another version of Din Djarin (but nowhere near as cool). A villain with great design and attitude, with plenty of mysterious intrigue, is now going to be the protagonist to make way for a villain that's probably going to be... Emilia Clarke. Yay. No thanks.

There's a profound moment in this latest episode. Boba Fett tells Fennec that he needs to retrieve his "Firespray gunship" from Jabba's palace. Everyone with any functioning brain cells knows that he didn't need to say anything other than "my ship" in order for both Fennec and the audience to understand what he was referring to. But the rebrand of Slave I takes precedence, and the writers happily played along with the corporate edict. Everything in this show is a rebrand, and they're not disguising it. And the vast majority of fans will re-calibrate their perceptions and associations to happily accept Disney rebrands because they have a compulsive need to enjoy whatever carries the Star Wars label. And Disney knows it. Well, God bless the fans who can enjoy this. But I've been learning that I'm not one of them.

Sorry for the long rant.

This is fantastic

 

[jye4ever]

Funny after just saying that this Fett in no way syncs with the OT I could absolutely seeing BOBF Fett doing exactly what ROTJ Fett did, lol.

He was going right back into the sarlaac had it not been for the sexy asian it was ROTJ all over again lol

 

[Khev]

That was another classic post from ajp.

I mean I get what Xipotec was saying about the pile-on so typical of Star Wars fandom these days, there's no doubt we've been doing that. Unfortunately I think it's justified in this case....

I don't want the pile-on to stop because it's hysterical (and fun to participate in) and I *like* this show.