The Book Of Boba Fett (December 2021)

[TurdFurgusonsHat]

This is a Back to the Future type situation that should have been dealt with swiftly and long ago by Lucasfilm...they should have seen this a mile away

 

[darth dennis]

Not true at all, if they portrayed him correctly. He needs to be a loner type character doing his own thing, only caring about his own interests, going place to place. Lucasfilm just wants all these characters connected to each other, that is what doesn't work for Fett.

I could even have gotten on board with a redemption arc for Fett, if done properly. You mentioned how great it would've been for Olyphant to be cast as Fett. If they had introduced him in S2E1 of Mando with the armor and he turned out to be Fett and we learned later about his time with the Tuskens and how he found a sense of self and of being a part of something and now he's this back world town marshall, it could've worked great. Then he reunites with the Tusken's to slay the dragon and later helps Mando because of the connection he made with him there. Could've all been awesome. We wouldn't have Cobb Vanth but we wouldn't care because we'd have a properly proportioned, well acted Fett. I actually really like Morrison as a person, he seems cool and all BUT I don't like him as Boba Fett.

 

[darth dennis]

Reposting the first post in this thread. One for the Fett fans to cry over.

But seriously, the structure of the series is a disaster. As much as I've enjoyed the last two episodes, it feels like they should be part of a different series or part of Mando S3. It's like watching a completely different show.

The Mando and Luke/Grogu stuff deserves to be fleshed out a lot more. It could be fantastic - just not in Boba's Book Club.

Ouch seeing that first post in the thread. What might've been...

 

[Sassafras]

https://www.dailydot.com/upstream/shows/book-of-boba-fett-episode-6-luke-skywalker/

Well, yeah, *&^% writing, directing, editing + stuffed fan service, basically. But whatever we got Cobb Vanth.

 

[Sassafras]

This times 1000. People get offended when Morrison gets criticism because they either blindly love him in the PT or because he appears to be a nice guy. But his acting is poor, he doesn't look like Boba Fett, and he should be playing the character not forcing "himself" into the character. I can't blame him for the writing but he is still at least 50 percent responsible for this show totally sucking. Call it what it is.

Meanwhile with just a few slick lines of gunslinger diologue Olyphant already has me wanting to see lots more of Cobb Vanth. His posture is even somewhat reminiscent of Bulloch. I wish we could get in the "way back" machine and cast Olyphant as the cold blooded bounty hunter Boba Fett, he is damn near perfect for the part.

Well, I don't get offended; just I thought Morrison at least deserved to have a good arc, script and directing. Like I think Rosario Dawson is alright, but Filoni made her pretty lifeless in Mandalorian; but the fights were good.

Olyphant is one of those actors who could read a phone book and make it riveting.

 

[TurdFurgusonsHat]

I could even have gotten on board with a redemption arc for Fett, if done properly. You mentioned how great it would've been for Olyphant to be cast as Fett. If they had introduced him in S2E1 of Mando with the armor and he turned out to be Fett and we learned later about his time with the Tuskens and how he found a sense of self and of being a part of something and now he's this back world town marshall, it could've worked great. Then he reunites with the Tusken's to slay the dragon and later helps Mando because of the connection he made with him there. Could've all been awesome. We wouldn't have Cobb Vanth but we wouldn't care because we'd have a properly proportioned, well acted Fett. I actually really like Morrison as a person, he seems cool and all BUT I don't like him as Boba Fett.

I don't know, I prefer Fett to be on the fringe of being a villain but mostly just a self interested ruthless bounty hunter that looks really cool. That seems to be who he was in ESB. Maybe he does the occasional good deed when it suits him but never a full time do gooder. I think the idea that Boba Fett climbs out of the Sarlaac pit and suddenly wishes to live his life as a Sand Person to be completely ridiculous.

 

[Sassafras]

The thing that bothers about Luke giving grogu a choice is that I always felt like Luke broke away from the old Jedi principles like forgoing attachment. Attachment is the reason he ended up saving Vader in the end, that’s sort of an important part of his entire arc, IMO. Like was posted earlier, I hope we see him understand afterwords that the choice thing with grogu was misguided.

Well, yeah. A failure of imagination. IMO would have been far better to have had Din and Luke run into each other, and have some kind of conversation about absolutes, the Dark Saber, and knowing your own truth (which is why Din D'jarin is having problems with the sword). Balance. E.g. Luke ends up guiding Din D'jarin towards resolving his inner conflict of, does a creed define his identity etc.

Instead we have a rather crudely done script of Luke rudely opening Grogu's gift and forcing more or less a toddler to pick one. Hopefully this will get smoothed out under a more skilled director. IMO Filoni by himself is getting better, but he's still a menace unbridled.

 

[guyver1]

So it seems the double for Luke this time was a guy called Graham Hamilton.

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that’s why when he spoke it looked a lot more natural because this guy’s mouth looks more better

 

[greygoose]

Worthy mention to the scene where Mando is watching Grogu up on the hill. For a helmeted character that scene really gives you the feels. Portrays so much emotion without the use of facial expressions.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

I hope they don't kill off this Bane fellow. I'm more interested in seeing him go up against Mando than Uncle Fett-ster. Put Cad in Mando season 3, and let him be one of the main villains. That alone will make season 3 stand out.

 

[a-dev]

Worthy mention to the scene where Mando is watching Grogu up on the hill. For a helmeted character that scene really gives you the feels. Portrays so much emotion without the use of facial expressions.

YES. I did break down for a brief time before regaining self-awareness That was an excellent scene - like Sassafras said I do kinda wish Mando had gotten to talk to Luke himself and this scene prevented that from happening - though sometime in the future they no doubt will meet again.

 

[Victοr]

Well, at least now we know Luke didn't die a virgin. Orange Cheeks got him good. I've read a Doujin like that, actually...

I never really cared for Ashoka in cartoons and whatever, but Rosario's demeanor and look is making me warm up to her. I'll probably get her dolly when her show airs.

 

[a-dev]

I could even have gotten on board with a redemption arc for Fett, if done properly. You mentioned how great it would've been for Olyphant to be cast as Fett. If they had introduced him in S2E1 of Mando with the armor and he turned out to be Fett and we learned later about his time with the Tuskens and how he found a sense of self and of being a part of something and now he's this back world town marshall, it could've worked great. Then he reunites with the Tusken's to slay the dragon and later helps Mando because of the connection he made with him there. Could've all been awesome. We wouldn't have Cobb Vanth but we wouldn't care because we'd have a properly proportioned, well acted Fett. I actually really like Morrison as a person, he seems cool and all BUT I don't like him as Boba Fett.

Olyphant as Fett - I dunno, I seem to remember many of us thought he looked a bit lanky when he was wearing the armour in Mando season 2.

Agreed about a Fett redemption arc. Yes I was game for it, but not like this. For one thing there actually has to be a demonstrable arc ONscreen. There wasn't one. He went into the sarlacc a bad guy and came out a good guy. That's it. That's what they went with. Oh and apparently he decided that even when he got his helmet back he was hardly ever going to put the damn thing on anymore - good riddance. It's only the thing that made the character so popular in the first place.

 

[ajp4mgs]

Then there's 2 things that need making clear - how Grogu & Luke will tie in to Boba Fett's story and who the hell this 'ruthless killer' is that Cad Bane mentioned. I thought he said Boba Fett but I must have misheard.

@ "ruthless killer" commentary.

I think Grogu and Luke tie into Boba Fett via Din. If a long-term reunion between Grogu and "daddy" Din is where this is headed, then Luke is facilitating it by empowering Grogu to overcome his past and be stronger going forward. This is also sort of happening with Din and Boba, and I'm expecting their fates to intersect very directly.

Din's journey is to take a scattered few Mandalorians and help bring back "The Way." Luke's journey is to take a scattered few Force-sensitives and help bring back the Jedi. Similar paths, but just going in different directions, so there's a thematic connection between Din and Luke. And it's the same theme which we're seeing also play out with Boba Fett. They're all starting over.

I'm expecting that Boba Fett's role that he eventually developed in the EU will be re-purposed in the Filoni/Favreau live-action universe. I suspect it will either determine Din & Grogu's destiny or will be dictated *by* Din and Grogu's destiny. But I think it's all connected, and with that common theme which these specific characters are being given. It will take a while to play out, and if it does indeed happen, it'll probably stretch out into at least one more season of BoBF.

Or I could be completely wrong.

 

[ajp4mgs]

Anyways this is to ajp and Sass.

Is it at all possible that with Ahsoka being with Luke that she already entered the World within Worlds portal and we are seeing an alternate Luke.

Anything is possible with that stupid plot device of the WBW, so I don't know.

But if you're asking me if this is the same Luke that you see in the ST, I think you might get your answer next week.

 

[chrisstbh]

Worthy mention to the scene where Mando is watching Grogu up on the hill. For a helmeted character that scene really gives you the feels. Portrays so much emotion without the use of facial expressions.

Yep, the body language of whoever is in the suit for Mando is always great and you can perfectly read them

 

[Sassafras]

YES. I did break down for a brief time before regaining self-awareness That was an excellent scene - like Sassafras said I do kinda wish Mando had gotten to talk to Luke himself and this scene prevented that from happening - though sometime in the future they no doubt will meet again.

Drives me crazy that Mando cares so much but doesn't insist on talking to Luke. I get that the events on Moff's ship were overwhelming and Luke had cut through all those Dark Troopers, but when you've had some time to think; and you're worried, and you haven't interacted with this Jedi you'd wanna know more.

Plus you have Jedi/I am no Jedi guilt-tripping father and child.
Mando should've just said, I'm his father, so there.

 

[Ramatuelle]

Olyphant is one of those actors who could read a phone book and make it riveting.

Its like we're watching two different shows. The one I'm watching, Olyphant is okay but nothing outstanding, just a regular guy. He was that in Mando, and he's that here. He does not offend me, neither does he make me go WOW. I dont get it.

I still have no damn idea why this guy and/or any of the townspeople would take up arms on Fett's behalf. They're going to fight off would-be overlords so that... Fett can be their overlord? Yeah, that does not stand up from a logical standpoint to me.

Fett is not a likeable guy, really. Let's not pretend that he is. He IS a ruthless killer, with flexible morals and a strong self-interest, to the exclusion of almost everything else. These people have no reason to embrace him, but we're gonna pretend they do.

Stg if Filoni was forced to make a documentary about the January 6 insurrection, Ahsoka would suddenly stroll across the screen chyron-style as Drumph was ranting from his bully pulpit. Where he goes she goes - if she fits or not, if she makes sense or not, if she has anything to offer plot-wise or not. ALRIGHT WE GET IT ALREADY FILONI YOU LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE AHSOKA

Excuse sour grapes, I am feeling very sour-grape-y today.

 

[Ramatuelle]

I don't know, I prefer Fett to be on the fringe of being a villain but mostly just a self interested ruthless bounty hunter that looks really cool. That seems to be who he was in ESB. Maybe he does the occasional good deed when it suits him but never a full time do gooder. I think the idea that Boba Fett climbs out of the Sarlaac pit and suddenly wishes to live his life as a Sand Person to be completely ridiculous.

You're not really wrong here.

I feel like a life-change can be a thing after someone emerges from a near-death experience. In this case its just WAY TOO MUCH AT ONCE

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

So who is better or stronger, Luke or Ashoka?