The Crow reboot with Bill Skarsgard
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Getting Leto Joker vibes from this
FINALLY a Crow movie for modern audiences. 
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**** this trash.
Can never tarnish the original though that’s the good thing.
Can never tarnish the original though that’s the good thing.
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Doing that would allow James O'Barr into the national daily media cycle as part of the marketing roll out. All modern marketing is built around "synergy" across different coordinated platforms.
The corporate legacy media establishment would simply not tolerate O'Barr. ( From the standpoint of institutional level investors in the current film industry, certain demographic ranges won't be shown with empathy, if anyone tries, it just won't be financed. If it gets a smaller level release, it will face open suppression from the coordinated algorithms of the various major platforms) Which is unfortunate.
I've read the graphic novel a couple of times. I've gifted it to someone who suffered a loss many years ago too. The practical audience capture from a straight graphic novel lift would be, oddly enough, a tween audience. That could work a couple of decades ago, but not now. Love = Pain is a very young adult trope. I'm not discounting O'Barr's pain and real life experiences, I'm only giving you a softer industry evaluation on this from a development standpoint.
I enjoyed the graphic novel, very much so. But it's dated. Even something like Frank Miller's Dark Knight Returns has themes and tone that was simply more relevant in the era in which it was released. The current young counter culture is more straight edged. The mainstream tween culture is more deviant today than decades ago. IMHO, the litmus here is satire. You can be provocative with satire when deviation is the social norm. ( Hence why I believe that IMHO that the Wednesday/Jenna Ortega series mostly worked with mainstream success and something like Tina Fey's Mean Girls is timeless) The Crow graphic novel has zero satire in it.
My take is the most marketable thing here would be the James O'Barr story itself. How the Crow came to be. But again, that would require a translated characterization to be shown with real empathy and nuance and that's just not going to happen in the current industry. The source material is tough subject matter to work with, and the timing within the current culture doesn't help much. Just some thoughts.
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I really enjoyed the original soundtrack. It's too bad Brandon Lee did not live longer. There are clearly fragmented sections of The Crow's narrative that exist because Lee died. The technology simply did not exist back then to really formulate a practical patch over strategy.
IMHO Proyas did a fantastic job translating the heart of the original graphic novel into very accessible themes into the film. While I usually desire that most films were shorter, I wish there was a four hour version of The Crow during it's original release. The story is just too complex to try to compress it into a sub two hour film.
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"I personally tried to squash it every time I hear of (a potential reboot film), not that I believe I've been able to. I think extenuating circumstances have stopped it from being made because if Hollywood wants to make something that they don't listen to schmucks like me who bring noble and moralistic issues. My point is that Brandon Lee made that movie what it is. He made that movie, he made that character. That character was not taken from a comic book, that was Brandon. And Brandon Lee died making that movie, he paid the worst price anyone could ever pay making a movie and it's his legacy. The guy would have been a huge star after that movie. He wasn't able to ever do that. That's his final testimony to his talent and that's why I finished the movie. I finished it for Brandon. After being devastated about what happened we shut down the production and I went back to Australia. Months later I went back and watched the movie and his family all the other actors, and everyone involved, said 'You've got to finish this movie because Brandon is so great in it' and he was. I was able to watch it and see how great he was and I thought then the movie deserves to be completed because it's his legacy. So that's what the movie is, it's not just a movie that can be remade. It's one man's legacy. And it should be treated with that level of respect." - Alex Proyas
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There have already been several remakes and a TV series and they all SUCKED. Is saw the first sequel/remake in the theater and it just plain STUNK.
Even the sequels to the comics all sucked. The original was just a lightning in a bottle kind of thing and every attempt to replicate it, both comic and movie, have failed miserably.
I think the original is about as close to a faithful adaptation to the comic as any comic book movie.
His makeup was super accurate. He even had the line/scar across his face and the bullets tied into his hair, just like in the book. I always thought that was cool.
Even the sequels to the comics all sucked. The original was just a lightning in a bottle kind of thing and every attempt to replicate it, both comic and movie, have failed miserably.
I think the original is about as close to a faithful adaptation to the comic as any comic book movie.
His makeup was super accurate. He even had the line/scar across his face and the bullets tied into his hair, just like in the book. I always thought that was cool.
Why would 'The Crow' have a tattoo of Bruce Timm Lex Luthor...complete with 'I've got my nipple on you!' ????
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The 1994 is a masterpiece and a product of its time.
This looks like a product of our time, which is probably the correct way of going about it rather than trying to imitate a 90's feel. I'm open-minded to it, I don't think the design is great but as long as the film is good I don't care, no point shutting yourself off to it in defence of the original.
If it's not then I'll just keep watching the 94 one. Haven't even bothered with the others.
The comic has an infantile earnestness about it which would not hold up in todays world, so it probably won't try to capture the comic. The 94 didn't really get close to it to be honest, so for me this stands out as a good thing.
In saying that, I'm leaning more towards it being naff than good, but hoping for the best.
This looks like a product of our time, which is probably the correct way of going about it rather than trying to imitate a 90's feel. I'm open-minded to it, I don't think the design is great but as long as the film is good I don't care, no point shutting yourself off to it in defence of the original.
If it's not then I'll just keep watching the 94 one. Haven't even bothered with the others.
The comic has an infantile earnestness about it which would not hold up in todays world, so it probably won't try to capture the comic. The 94 didn't really get close to it to be honest, so for me this stands out as a good thing.
In saying that, I'm leaning more towards it being naff than good, but hoping for the best.
You know, I am one of the comparitive few who tolerated Letoker. I did. I enjoyed the chemistry between him and Harley, the only two things that made that movie watchable. Because the plot was utter trash.
And even I say this is derivative trash. For several different reasons. Does no one in hollywood have a single original thought these days.
What Ive seen about this movie from other sources tells me its going to crash and burn. No one is intrigued. I could say more but the moderators would be unhappy.
And even I say this is derivative trash. For several different reasons. Does no one in hollywood have a single original thought these days.
What Ive seen about this movie from other sources tells me its going to crash and burn. No one is intrigued. I could say more but the moderators would be unhappy.
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My first instinct is to bring up the fact that even the original Crow was a cringey emo guy himself, but I can't honestly make a case that these are comparable. I've got a relative who is kind of into this lifestyle, so it is real, and I am an old fart who probably couldn't understand it even if I wanted to, but I have a real hard time envisioning a scenario where I would ever want to watch a movie where the main character looks like this.
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