Well you're supposed to be caught unaware - that is the point of a surprise twist
I think there's enough there to deduce Bane was also born in the prison. Just look at the facts
- He tells Batman 'You merely adopted the dark, I was born in it... I didn't see the light until I was already a man'
- When Batman asked Bane: 'you thought you were the only one who could learn the strength to escape?'
and Bane responds SURPRISED: 'but I never escaped'
This alone is enough to prove to me Bane was born in the prison too - He had no clue what stories Bruce would be told while in the Pit - He TOLD Bruce he was born in the dark and didn't see the light till he was a man. When Batman asks him that did he think he was the only one who could learn the strength to escape, Bane is
confused and says he never escaped. He was never trying to fool Bruce into thinking he was the one who escaped.
Also there is additional dialogue in that final scene that didn't make it to the final cut:
Bane: 'I never escaped - Ra's Al Ghul rescued me. That is why I must fulfill his plan. That I why I must avenge his murder'
He's not Talia's pawn. He has his own reason to fulfil Ras' plan.
Finally - it's absolutely no surprise to find parallels in Nolan's films. He absolutely LOVES them.
- Bane is a parallel to Bruce. Bruce was chosen to lead the LoS, but chose to reject the league. Bane wanted to lead the league but was excommunicated.
- Batman/Joker parallels - Joker exists because of Batman. Theme of escalation.
- Batman/Scarecrow parallel - Batman aims to use fear against those who prey on the fearful. Scarecrow aims to use fear to control others.
- Batman/Ra's parallel - both want to cleanse Gotham of evil. Batman chooses to try and do it by fighting the criminals and providing inspiration. Ra's chooses to do it by purging entire cities 'once the forest grows too wild' and letting it rebuild from the ashes.
So absolutely no surprise to me that Bane and Talia are BOTH born in the prison. Talia escapes, her father saves Bane. Bane has a connection to Talia probably in no small part due to the fact that she's the only other person who could possibly relate to being born in the darkness.
There was - Harvey's 'death at the hands of Batman', and the resulting Harvey Dent Act. The end of organized crime - the mob finished. Joker in Arkham. Missing accomplished. (Or so he thought).
Add to that the depression of losing Rachel. The reasons make perfect sense to me.
Have you read Chapter 1 of the Art and Making of TDK Trilogy?
Many of the things i've interpreted or talked about are touched upon there - so i'm not seeing things that aren't there. In my experience, the more time to put into these films via re-watching and thinking about them, the more they give back. These films are very layered and they are made that way. It's the same with Inception and to an extent with The Prestige.
There's plenty of interviews with Chris and Jonah Nolan that touch upon various of the layered meanings that I talk about from time to time.
Some call it pretentious or silly to make a film that doesn't make it's meanings and secrets known upon first viewing - but for me it's masterful. I love films that make you think.
