The Dark Knight Rises *SPOILERS*

[ZaCHw117]

well I guess this year belongs to the Avengers, now the Blu Ray release will bring it home,

and, I really cannot believe im saying this, but, Avengers was a better movie....

 

[crows]

lol

 

[EVILFACE]

well I guess this year belongs to the Avengers, now the Blu Ray release will bring it home,

and, I really cannot believe im saying this, but, Avengers was a better movie....

Because making more money = better movie.

Britney Spears and Katy Perry must make the best music of all time.

 

[CelticPredator]

.........

 

[batfan08]

Batman is a beast. I can't believe how easily he beat Captain America, Iron Man, Thor, Hulk, Hawkeye, and Black Widow. Thanos should've hired this guy. I'm kidding, of course, but for me, it was never a contest. I enjoy the Marvel movies, but The Avengers was never anything more than another popcorn movie to hold me over until Batman. It might as well've been Prometheus or Ted (both great films, but it kind of gives you an idea of the point I'm trying to make).

 

[Fernandofan08]

Not totally wrong. Technically he become Batman once he dons the suit, the cowl and the cape.



That's the point of scenes like these,




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6K1qNsE9v0


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxqwIuK6FDs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zL3PgFBXioU&feature=related


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQmq1vPolys


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93BXEisCQpo&feature=fvwrel




Everything from sliding down the batpole to becoming Batman to the suit up/preparation scene in Begins when Batman puts on the gauntlets, belt and gadgets.

Oh yeah. But most of those are like, THE first time he puts the suit on.

Im talking about being Batman outside the costume like this;


[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StjeJWVQXB4[/ame]

I mean, theres Bruce knocking dent out and putting him in the closet then 'heads up pretty boy' where he disarms the jokers thug. In BB the fight in the Manor with Ra's, and his training. In TDKR the training and regaining fitness in the prison. Thats Batman to me.

So thats what I mean when Batman isnt in costume, he is still Batman. but alot of people think the costume makes the character, if he isnt in costume he isnt Batman. Totally wrong. Just look at Keaton when Joker goes to Vales flat. That was Batman putting an act on to disguise that very fact.

And this too is Batman!

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H56Qawnv-hk[/ame]


But yeah, for me, this convinced me that Bruce doesnt need a cape and cowl to be Batman. Sometimes, Batmans costume works against him. Remember this!?;

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwchWXWWAgQ[/ame]

And as a sidenote, this is the only time I ever liked Superman?

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He4K-V502Xg[/ame]

 

[IrishJedi]

In a nutshell, here's why some of us dissect these films: They ask for it.

These are not designed to be mindless Summer popcorn films. They aspire to be much more, and thus they absolutely invite the analyzation and a more critical eye. And it just so happens the more some of us put TDKR under a microscope the more threads start to unravel.

I don't understand why this is a problem. Why does this mean we don't really like the movie or the series? If we didn't we wouldn't spend even a fraction of this amount of time talking about it. At least I know I wouldn't.

TDKR isn't a Transformers sequel, it's a Chris Nolan picture and sequel to an Oscar-nominated film considered by many to be the pinnacle of the genre. It's also a Batman movie. It's going to be measured against these criteria. And for some, it just doesn't quite measure up. That's all.

 

[intothevoid]

Looks like TDKR might be on the wane. Didn't expect it to have the legs it did though, so that's something.

On the wane in the US maybe

Still was no.1 at the international BO this weekend. It's heading for a huge international total

Because making more money = better movie.

Britney Spears and Katy Perry must make the best music of all time.

Yupp

In a nutshell, here's why some of us dissect these films: They ask for it.

These are not designed to be mindless Summer popcorn films. They aspire to be much more, and thus they absolutely invite the analyzation and a more critical eye. And it just so happens the more some of us put TDKR under a microscope the more threads start to unravel.

I don't understand why this is a problem. Why does this mean we don't really like the movie or the series? If we didn't we wouldn't spend even a fraction of this amount of time talking about it. At least I know I wouldn't.

TDKR isn't a Transformers sequel, it's a Chris Nolan picture and sequel to an Oscar-nominated film considered by many to be the pinnacle of the genre. It's also a Batman movie. It's going to be measured against these criteria. And for some, it just doesn't quite measure up. That's all.

Well said

 

[Khev]

TDKR isn't a Transformers sequel all

If it was a TF sequel then during the final chase instead of the Bat having to temporarily disengage to elude a volley of ground to air missiles instead it would have gotten awesomely tangled up in WIRES until it was time to re-enter the fray.

Bay is such an idiot.

 

[Khev]

well I guess this year belongs to the Avengers

Box office-wise yes. I have a feeling TDKR will have it's day come Oscar season however.

 

[Deckard]

Did they add a category for biggest letdown?

 

[Khev]

Why are you hoping that your post gets a nomination?

 

[intothevoid]

Did they add a category for biggest letdown?

Why are you hoping that your post gets a nomination?

 

[Deckard]

I guess from now on I'll just let JGL post for me.

 

[Adolfo]

LOL...good one Nam!

 

[Adolfo]

Because making more money = better movie.

Britney Spears and Katy Perry must make the best music of all time.

LOL.......

 

[JAWS]

In a nutshell, here's why some of us dissect these films: They ask for it.

These are not designed to be mindless Summer popcorn films. They aspire to be much more, and thus they absolutely invite the analyzation and a more critical eye. And it just so happens the more some of us put TDKR under a microscope the more threads start to unravel.

I don't understand why this is a problem. Why does this mean we don't really like the movie or the series? If we didn't we wouldn't spend even a fraction of this amount of time talking about it. At least I know I wouldn't.

TDKR isn't a Transformers sequel, it's a Chris Nolan picture and sequel to an Oscar-nominated film considered by many to be the pinnacle of the genre. It's also a Batman movie. It's going to be measured against these criteria. And for some, it just doesn't quite measure up. That's all.

Well said.

I finally got around to seeing this a second time last night. First let me say that I really enjoyed the film the first time. I thought it was the 2nd best of the series after TDK.

However after a second viewing I just could not get over the plot holes, cliches, and downright corny scenes in the film.

If you are going to be an "intelligent" almost three hour films of twisting stories you better make sure there are not glaring plot holes.

Now don't get me wrong I still thought the film was good enough but it is without question the week link of the trilogy.

I also found the film to be overly long. The first two films are long films themselves but the story moves and are always compelling. This film just did not pull off what the other two films did. The scenes without Batman in the first two were just as great as the scenes without Batman. In TDKR the film at times comes to a crawl. Talia al Ghul was really an average character in all her scenes. I was not crazy about her the first time and really hated the scenes she was in the second time.

Robin was an OK character but I much rather would have much rather the film spent more time with Batman or even Alfred (wasted his character in this film) then with him. He was basically put in the film so we could have that last great shot.

Basically it boils down to the fact that we were spoiled by the first two films. It was not a bad film but it was nowhere near the quality of the first two.

And I know we are supposed to suspend disbelief but Nolan himself has always stated that he was going for realism but I am sorry at the end of the film "He didnt get out of the cockadoody car"

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVzX22lrWxA[/ame]

 

[DarthBakura]

I thought TDK was the best of the three and I agree it had the most annoying fans, but that's not enough to turn me away from a movie. I feel TDKR wasn't even as good as Batman Begins, really. It certainly felt rushed and choppy, even though it dragged... if that makes any sense. lol

I'm glad my favorite of them all is Batman Begins then.

That one has the least rabid, mind-****ed fans.

 

[EVILFACE]

Did they add a category for biggest letdown?

Prometheus is a shoe in for it.

 

[BadMoon]

I guess from now on I'll just let JGL post for me.

Might save another banning.