The Dark Knight Rises *SPOILERS*

[CelticPredator]

Oh yes. All of Difabio's points on Talia and Bane are spot on to the TEE.

 

[Khev]

TDKR definitely wasn't a movie that you had to ponder at length to "figure out." It was a straight up hero quest and a brilliant one at that.

 

[Khev]

Yeah, it's even got a name.

Talia.

Talia was great. So was Bane.

 

[jye4ever]

Oh yes. All of Difabio's points on Talia and Bane are spot on to the TEE.

My dog plays dead better than her

And I don't even own a dog.

TDKR definitely wasn't a movie that you had to ponder at length to "figure out." It was a straight up hero quest and a brilliant one at that.

Don't tell void that

 

[crows]

Oh yeah. But most of those are like, THE first time he puts the suit on.

Im talking about being Batman outside the costume like this;


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StjeJWVQXB4

I mean, theres Bruce knocking dent out and putting him in the closet then 'heads up pretty boy' where he disarms the jokers thug. In BB the fight in the Manor with Ra's, and his training. In TDKR the training and regaining fitness in the prison. Thats Batman to me.

So thats what I mean when Batman isnt in costume, he is still Batman. but alot of people think the costume makes the character, if he isnt in costume he isnt Batman. Totally wrong. Just look at Keaton when Joker goes to Vales flat. That was Batman putting an act on to disguise that very fact.

And this too is Batman!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H56Qawnv-hk


But yeah, for me, this convinced me that Bruce doesnt need a cape and cowl to be Batman. Sometimes, Batmans costume works against him. Remember this!?;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwchWXWWAgQ

And as a sidenote, this is the only time I ever liked Superman?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He4K-V502Xg

the problem is that this movie didn't have a lot of that either, only at the end when he was getting his strength back in the prison
but we did not get a good Bruce Wayne, we got a zombie/half dead Bruce Wayne most of the movie,
there was nothing like the scenes in Begins or TDK, the only two times it felt like that was when he went to the hospital, and when he was training again in the prison,

Well said.

I finally got around to seeing this a second time last night. First let me say that I really enjoyed the film the first time. I thought it was the 2nd best of the series after TDK.

However after a second viewing I just could not get over the plot holes, cliches, and downright corny scenes in the film.

If you are going to be an "intelligent" almost three hour films of twisting stories you better make sure there are not glaring plot holes.

Now don't get me wrong I still thought the film was good enough but it is without question the week link of the trilogy.

I also found the film to be overly long. The first two films are long films themselves but the story moves and are always compelling. This film just did not pull off what the other two films did. The scenes without Batman in the first two were just as great as the scenes without Batman. In TDKR the film at times comes to a crawl. Talia al Ghul was really an average character in all her scenes. I was not crazy about her the first time and really hated the scenes she was in the second time.

Robin was an OK character but I much rather would have much rather the film spent more time with Batman or even Alfred (wasted his character in this film) then with him. He was basically put in the film so we could have that last great shot.

Basically it boils down to the fact that we were spoiled by the first two films. It was not a bad film but it was nowhere near the quality of the first two.

And I know we are supposed to suspend disbelief but Nolan himself has always stated that he was going for realism but I am sorry at the end of the film "He didnt get out of the cockadoody car"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVzX22lrWxA

this

 

[CelticPredator]

**** Batman. Bruce Wayne IS Batman. I cared more for the man, then the suit.

 

[JAWS]

I get what you're saying. But to me, when I started to nitpick TDK, I started to not enjoy it so much. Which made me step back and go...OK, wait. I don't enjoy a movie any more that i've enjoyed for years...because of..what?

Little things bugged me. The Joker's hair, lack of blood during the bank scene, some acting, Rachel's fall, weird edits...ect.

Those are things that happen in almost every film ever made. Why should I dislike it because of those?

My only problem with TDK is the last act with the ferries. It drags and drags. And it makes the ending not quite so amazing.

TDKR does drag, but thankfully, in the middle. Then the end is a big action fest.

TDKR has flaws. But I think when you snowball the little nitpicks Vs. the real flaws, it becomes confusing as to what is good, and what is bad.

I hope that makes sense. I can point out a lot of real, actual problems with TDKR. And they aren't nitpicks/

Ok I see what you are saying. I don't think I should be the one to defend the nit picking because I have not read all those posts.

If it's anything like the way you got for TDK then yes that is over board. However I do feel that TDKR has problems much worse then what you were picking out in TDK.

But yes I get what you are saying.

 

[CelticPredator]

I can agree with you there. It's a very flawed film. Not the masterpiece people are claiming it to be. I enjoyed it very much. It had a great emotional core to it. And that's what kept me going through any issues.

 

[JAWS]

**** Batman. Bruce Wayne IS Batman. I cared more for the man, then the suit.

I agree with this. It's why I love the first two films so much and one of the reasons I find the third film to be lacking.

 

[jye4ever]

Talia was great. So was Bane.

Bane was.

But then Bane's character was ruined by Talia.

I wanted him to remain the main baddie.

Then again I would've also loved for it to be revealed that Fox, Gordon or Alfred were really behind LOS.

 

[CelticPredator]

I love Evil Morgan Freeman.

 

[DarthBakura]

This is my criteria for a movie

Lol, I used to quote that line when people *****ed about a movie, yet staked a claim in liking it.

I loved watching that little ******* get served by Letterman. Both when he was in character, and after, when Dave wanted a million bucks for *********'s stupid little stunt!

https://youtu.be/Q70IBESi4P8

https://youtu.be/WEI4LUqhfn8

Bwahahaha!

Hadn't seen that before. Heard about the interviews, but never bothered to sit down and watch them before. Awesome. Props to Dave for the humor.

 

[DiFabio]

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuDAPb4XLGM[/ame]

 

[jye4ever]

I love Evil Morgan Freeman.

can you imagine the of Talia's real boss being Fox!

 

[CelticPredator]

Batman's face OMG.

 

[crows]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuDAPb4XLGM

blackmask: the message is not too short

 

[jye4ever]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuDAPb4XLGM

 

[crows]

that really was awesome,

 

[greygoose]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuDAPb4XLGM

What could have been.

 

[crows]

apparently the Johnathan Crane (scarecrow) cameo was originally planned for the joker in the dark knight rises


is this true?