The Dark Knight Rises *SPOILERS*

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Bane was so over the top he could be in a Shakespeare play, Oh My God... he was so dramatic! I wanted to just slap him...
Miranda was really poor character, she was cheesy as well and her twist is really stupid. She has to be the weakest of Batman's villains in here,
 
Nolan made the film his way...that it...and it was a success and I'm proud to own these films too like tens of millions others and proud to relate to the characters he put up on screen

Couldn't have said it better myself. Though I find flaws mostly with Rises I loved the trilogy. Nolan's Batman films really clicked with me.
 
Did Avatar truly truly suck...no...was it the greatest film ever made...no
It's still a terrible point. The garbage Transformer movies usually out gross most movies they're up against. Shame we have untalented hacks like Michael Bay to pollute the theaters with that crap.
 
Couldn't have said it better myself. Though I find flaws mostly with Rises I loved the trilogy. Nolan's Batman films really clicked with me.

And that to me is the most important relationship between the viewer and film...If you can relate to the character(s) then the film and those who made it are doing their job...and the masses truly related to this trilogy
 
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I just think this movie should have been called GOTHAM: The Dark Knight Rises since it seems Batman himself takes a back seat and everyone else and the city become more important to Nolan. Seems like he was tired and done with Batman as a character and finished the trilogy by focusing on Blake and Bane and Catwoman and everyone else.
I mean, Batman is retired for 8 years. No one has seen him, he comes back as Batman for like 2 nights and gets his ass handed to him.
Then he is thrown in a prison and the movie becomes about Gordon Blake Miranda and Bane, at this point Batman is non existent in this universe Bruce Wayne disappears and no one notices.
Batman comes back at the end and saves the day while dying at the same time.
 
Goaded, to provoke or annoy.

Not get molested.



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There are people that liked it and people that didn't. Some that loved it, some that hated it. Some might have thought it was meh, others might have moved on. Some people saw it multiple times, others did not.

To say, "well, it made this much money, so, most people like it and you're in the minority" (I guess you're implying that my opinion is in the minority therefore it's unimportant and wrong?) is shortsighted at best.





Now I haven't been in this thread for a while. People got tired of me posting. So I stopped. No harm, no foul. I care not. But for awhile now I've been goaded either by those that wanted me to return to this thread and have some fun (which I have no problem with) or goaded in other threads as a "whiner" or "baby" when I'm not even contributing to the discussion or TDKR. A few others have been provoked as well, not just about TDKR either.


Well, after seeing these things and seeing countless double posts of "DIS IZ GREAT" or "IF YOU DON'T THINK THIS WAY, YOU'RE WRONG" I realize, we all just have different opinions on these stupid movies and are free to express them.

So **** it. Love it or hate it, you're free to express why on this message board. Imma chime in and I'll continue to post at my leisure. Whatever. You love it, feel free to post that or try and rebut my opinion. Don't be like "oh, him again, blah, blah, blah" then hang that carrot in front of my face to come back and do the same ****. It's petty and we're all adults here.


This is just a message board, a place to express your feelings and have fun about common interests you have with other. So, with that said, TDKR is ****. Batman Begins and The Dark Knight are much, much, MUCH better.

Minority yes...unimportant no..please do not keep adding implications one after another...my view is simple...most folks who saw this related to the characters...you obviously relate to the comic books more...I relate to both and whatever feelings/emotions attached to whatever I am reading/watching...I seperate em...big freakin difference...You want the raw comic book on the screen...
 
None of us expected them to take it where they did. But looking back, what they did in TDKR was actually a logical path to follow considering how TDK ended.

He didn't "sacrifice" the image of Batman and turn Harvey into a martyr to run around beating up street thugs (he wasn't going after the Joe Chills in BB and TDK. He went after the big dogs like Falcone and Maroni. Thanks to Rachel ;)) and get chased by the cops forever (or until the truth came out).

So for me, the characterization of Bruce Wayne and the story points (retiring after TDK, the Dent Act, Batman as a symbol/Batman can be anybody) in TDKR do not contradict the previous films.

Also, way back in an interview with Nolan during Batman Begins, he did say that he looked at Bruce's goal as an achievable one. Which he sort of repeated in a recent interview at the end here.
 
It's still a terrible point. The garbage Transformer movies usually out gross most movies they're up against. Shame we have untalented hacks like Michael Bay to pollute the theaters with that crap.

They did not totally suck either...I could think of so many that were worse than those films...Some films hit home as great entertainment (Transformers)and others as just plain great....
 
None of us expected them to take it where they did. But looking back, what they did in TDKR was actually a logical path to follow considering how TDK ended.

He didn't "sacrifice" the image of Batman and turn Harvey into a martyr to run around beating up street thugs (he wasn't going after the Joe Chills in BB and TDK. He went after the big dogs like Falcone and Maroni. Thanks to Rachel ;)) and get chased by the cops forever (or until the truth came out).

So for me, the characterization of Bruce Wayne and the story points (retiring after TDK, the Dent Act, Batman as a symbol/Batman can be anybody) in TDKR do not contradict the previous films.

Also, way back in an interview with Nolan during Batman Begins, he did say that he looked at Bruce's goal as an achievable one. Which he sort of repeated in a recent interview at the end here.

I agree...It took a real man to sacrifice himself like Bruce/BM did at the end of TDK...and it was all the Joker's fault...genius of getting to the Dark knight of Gotham by striking down on the White knight of Gotham...thus ruining the Ying Yang in Gotham!
 
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So did anybody manage to pick up a limited edition copy with the broken cowl/ anybody think their stores still have some? All my stores sold out :monkey2
 
So did anybody manage to pick up a limited edition copy with the broken cowl/ anybody think their stores still have some? All my stores sold out :monkey2

Sold out Walmart,Target,Best buy today...I was happy to get BB steelbook
 
They did not totally suck either...I could think of so many that were worse than those films...Some films hit home as great entertainment (Transformers)and others as just plain great....
Yes, they did "totally suck". They're some of the worst movies ever made. Just absolutely terrible. Yet they out gross almost every other movie they're up against.
 
you relate to the comic...I relate to both and whatever feelings/emotions attached to whatever I am reading/watching...I seperate em...big freakin difference...You want the raw comic book on the screen...

That's not true though. :lol

What's comic accurate? A Ra's Al Ghul trained Bruce? Joe Chill getting murdered by a hit chick? An all black suit? Rachel Dawes? A paint wearing Joker? Two-Face dying a few days after becoming Two-Face? Mayor Garcia?

None of those things are comic accurate (whatever that is) and they're all in Begins and TDK, and I love those two films. Especially the ****ing Joker which is probably my favorite aspect of what Nolan has done.

My critiques, while I might have some faults with "accuracy" (like Bruce being Batman for only like a year) are completely based on the films faults on their own, not comic accuracy.

I don't like Bane, not because he doesn't have venom or can't roid up but because he sucks. He's written poorly and is cliched in my opinion. He sounds and looks like a buffoon and I don't see an intimidating opponent there. It has nothing to do with a comic counterpart. I don't like Batman and Robin Bane, not because of "oh he's not comic accurate" but because he SUCKS. Look at those critiques up there where I criticize SCRIPT cliches and faults. That has nothing to do with comic accuracy.

I like the world that Nolan set up with Begins, I liked the heightened reality of TDK, TDKR just blew that all straight to hell in my opinion. It wasn't that it wasn't comic accurate, it was that it didn't follow the rules that previous stories set . . . for me. Big, grandois, Transformer "epicness". Nuclear bombs, cliched plot twists, "threequel" problems of contradicting or adding to things that weren't in the previous films. Characters completely changing from crying Alfred, to bloated "huh, Bruce Wayne is Batman" Gordon, to even Batman himself. The new characters like Blake and Foley just added to the mess.

Those are my main gripes. Not, "ohhhh, THEY PRONOUNCED RA'S WRONG", "BLAKE DIDN'T WEAR A RED AND GREEN SUIT", "BANE HAZ NO VENOMZ".




You like it Adolfo, and that's fine. I don't, other don't and it's not out of some perceived "comic accuracy", some just DON'T LIKE IT.
 
Minority yes...unimportant no..please do not keep adding implications one after another...my view is simple...most folks who saw this related to the characters...you obviously relate to the comic books more...I relate to both and whatever feelings/emotions attached to whatever I am reading/watching...I seperate em...big freakin difference...You want the raw comic book on the screen...

He already said that he luvs BB/TDK. :dunno
 
That's not true though. :lol

What's comic accurate? A Ra's Al Ghul trained Bruce? Joe Chill getting murdered by a hit chick? An all black suit? Rachel Dawes? A paint wearing Joker? Two-Face dying a few days after becoming Two-Face? Mayor Garcia?

None of those things are comic accurate (whatever that is) and they're all in Begins and TDK, and I love those two films. Especially the ****ing Joker which is probably my favorite aspect of what Nolan has done.

My critiques, while I might have some faults with "accuracy" (like Bruce being Batman for less than a year) are completely based on the films faults on their own, not comic accuracy.

I don't like Bane, not because he doesn't have venom or can't roid up but because he sucks. He's written poorly and is cliched in my opinion. Look at those critiques up there where I criticize SCRIPT cliches and faults. That has nothing to do with comic accuracy.

I like the world that Nolan set up with Begins, I liked the heightened reality of TDK, TDKR just blew that all straight to hell in my opinion. It wasn't that it wasn't comic accurate, it was that it didn't follow the rules that previous stories set . . . for me. Big, grandois, Transformer "epicness". Nuclear bombs, cliched plot twists, "threequel" problems of contradicting or adding to things that weren't in the previous films. Characters completely changing from crying Alfred, to bloated "huh, Bruce Wayne is Batman" Gordon, to even Batman himself.

Those are my main gripes. Not, "ohhhh, THEY PRONOUNCED RA'S WRONG", "BLAKE DIDN'T WEAR A RED AND GREEN SUIT", "BANE HAZ NO VENOMZ".


You like Adolfo, and that's fine. I don't, other don't and it's not out of some perceived "comic accuracy", some just DON'T LIKE IT.

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That's not true though. :lol

What's comic accurate? A Ra's Al Ghul trained Bruce? Joe Chill getting murdered by a hit chick? An all black suit? Rachel Dawes? A paint wearing Joker? Two-Face dying a few days after becoming Two-Face? Mayor Garcia?

None of those things are comic accurate (whatever that is) and they're all in Begins and TDK, and I love those two films. Especially the ****ing Joker which is probably my favorite aspect of what Nolan has done.

My critiques, while I might have some faults with "accuracy" (like Bruce being Batman for only like a year) are completely based on the films faults on their own, not comic accuracy.

I don't like Bane, not because he doesn't have venom or can't roid up but because he sucks. He's written poorly and is cliched in my opinion. Look at those critiques up there where I criticize SCRIPT cliches and faults. That has nothing to do with comic accuracy.

I like the world that Nolan set up with Begins, I liked the heightened reality of TDK, TDKR just blew that all straight to hell in my opinion. It wasn't that it wasn't comic accurate, it was that it didn't follow the rules that previous stories set . . . for me. Big, grandois, Transformer "epicness". Nuclear bombs, cliched plot twists, "threequel" problems of contradicting or adding to things that weren't in the previous films. Characters completely changing from crying Alfred, to bloated "huh, Bruce Wayne is Batman" Gordon, to even Batman himself.

Those are my main gripes. Not, "ohhhh, THEY PRONOUNCED RA'S WRONG", "BLAKE DIDN'T WEAR A RED AND GREEN SUIT", "BANE HAZ NO VENOMZ".




You like Adolfo, and that's fine. I don't, other don't and it's not out of some perceived "comic accuracy", some just DON'T LIKE IT.

Maybe I should have said comic book like then....But you do have some nitpicking details that I overlook because the story and how I relate to the characters overshadow them and IMHO rightly so
 
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