The Dark Knight Rises *SPOILERS*

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You've...

A. Never read Miller's The Dark Knight Returns
B. Read it and don't remember it
C. Read every other page backwards

Tell me how he isn't mentally ill.

He talks to himself. He has a split personality, he relates to Harvey Dent and knows, SPECIFICALLY how he feels (unless you're saying Two-Face is fine too). People accuse him of being a right wing, nazi and he doesn't deny it, he has his own sense of authority that he's willing to uphold.

He has a Batman persona that re-emerges that talks to him in front of the window. The Batman persona is stronger and he gets out of his rut and starts fighting crime.

He puts a small girls life in danger and refers to her as "****" and Robin several times.



Forgive me if I misinterpreted the guy as being a little mentally unhinged.


You guys speak of it like it's a bad thing. OH HE SOOOOO GOOOOD, SO GREAT, NO PROBLEMS.

Not sure what world you guys are living in. I bet some of you have some little deranged tendencies in yourselves as well.
 
Tell me how he isn't mentally ill.

He talks to himself. He has a split personality, he relates to Harvey Dent and knows, SPECIFICALLY how he feels (unless you're saying Two-Face is fine too). People accuse him of being a right wing, nazi and he doesn't deny it, he has his own sense of authority that he's willing to uphold.

He has a Batman persona that re-emerges that talks to him in front of the window. The Batman persona is stronger and he gets out of his rut and starts fighting crime.

He puts a small girls life in danger and refers to her as "****" and Robin several times.



Forgive me if I misinterpreted the guy as being a little mentally unhinged.


You guys speak of it like it's a bad thing. OH HE SOOOOO GOOOOD, SO GREAT, NO PROBLEMS.

Not sure what world you guys are living in. I bet some of you have some little deranged tendencies in yourselves as well.

Post of da day. :rotfl
 
Tell me how he isn't mentally ill.

He talks to himself. He has a split personality, he relates to Harvey Dent and knows, SPECIFICALLY how he feels (unless you're saying Two-Face is fine too). People accuse him of being a right wing, nazi and he doesn't deny it, he has his own sense of authority that he's willing to uphold.

He has a Batman persona that re-emerges that talks to him in front of the window. The Batman persona is stronger and he gets out of his rut and starts fighting crime.

He puts a small girls life in danger and refers to her as "****" and Robin several times.



Forgive me if I misinterpreted the guy as being a little mentally unhinged.


You guys speak of it like it's a bad thing. OH HE SOOOOO GOOOOD, SO GREAT, NO PROBLEMS.

Not sure what world you guys are living in. I bet some of you have some little deranged tendencies in yourselves as well.

After reading this thread tonight, one would say the majority of you are deranged in some ways.
 
Tell me how he isn't mentally ill.

He talks to himself. He has a split personality, he relates to Harvey Dent and knows, SPECIFICALLY how he feels (unless you're saying Two-Face is fine too). People accuse him of being a right wing, nazi and he doesn't deny it, he has his own sense of authority that he's willing to uphold.

He has a Batman persona that re-emerges that talks to him in front of the window. The Batman persona is stronger and he gets out of his rut and starts fighting crime.

He puts a small girls life in danger and refers to her as "****" and Robin several times.



Forgive me if I misinterpreted the guy as being a little mentally unhinged.


You guys speak of it like it's a bad thing. OH HE SOOOOO GOOOOD, SO GREAT, NO PROBLEMS.

Not sure what world you guys are living in. I bet some of you have some little deranged tendencies in yourselves as well.

That's not what I'm speaking to in your post. Nolan's TDKr and Miller's TDKR are essentially the same storyline and the same Bruce Wayne. You like one you should have no problems with the other if characterization is your complaint.
 
My only real issue with this film (apart from the fact that Catwoman is just in it is that it doesn;t feel like the third act in a three part story. The fact that Bats was only active for at most 18 months and then GONE for seven years is really hard to swallow.

But ultimately the Nolan Batman is searching for redemption not justice. It started out that way with the first film where all he wanted was to save Gotham, but come TDK all he wants to do is give up the cowl and live happily ever after.
Of course all this goes back to the fact that Nolan's Bruce chooses to put on the costume. He's not driven to do so. Its not a compulsion for him. Every criminal he takes down isn't vicariously the man who killed his parents.
 
Wut, you kidding?


"A guy that dresses up like a Bat clearly has issues."

"No, *this* is your mask. Your real face is the one that criminals now fear."

"See, to them you're just a freak, like me . . . they'll cast you out."

etc. etc.

This ****ing guy talks to people in a "Bat voice" when, A. they're not around and B. when they know he's Batman. What the **** do you call that? I don't care how his cape functions, the dude puts on a cape, puts on a bat mask, and beats out of the criminals for a reason and catharsis. That ain't normal and this a movie, not real life.


Even when he's out of the suit he does the voice. What do you call that? It's a little more than dedication. This guy saw his parents gunned down, I mean what?

If anything, prior to TDKR Nolan made it ambiguous. Yeah, there's some symbol of hope talk, but you sort of see him really becoming Batman, especially by TDK's end. Bruce's mental health could be ambiguous. It can be whatever the viewer wants. If it's what Rachel saw, than boy, Bruce is Batman . . . forever until the day he dies.

Forgive me if I like seeing a tormented Batman. An unhinged, but good man that's dedicated. A Batman that doesn't quit and turns his anger and pain over the loss of his parents into something positive by stopping criminals and righting wrongs. A Batman who almost crosses the line (like in TDK with beating the Joker or getting satisfaction out of the "immoral" sonar device).

I don't see who couldn't dig a Batman that grapples with his sanity and is a little more complex, mentally ill character but still is a hero. You make it sound like that's a bad thing? Some of the best Batman incarnations aren't straight laced, take the Frank Miller TDKR Batman for example.






I'm sure Nolan and Co. voices and the feature itself is very, very convincing and fulfilling. They usually are, I love hearing what filmmakers have to say. I'm sure I'll love it. But that doesn't mean whatever they say is written in stone or that they're right, or that it's the way to go. It's their vision, period. The reason these things are for entertainment, that's it. While I was mildly entertained, I was ultimately disappointed, didn't like the story and thought it was subpar compared to Begins and TDK.

It's a little documentary for the film's intent. Just because it sounds great and they have a reason for it doesn't mean I'll like it or agree with it. It's all about perception and interpretation. Didn't like the choices, characters or not.

And it's not just Bruce, it's the whole damn movie. So, whatever. You're free to like it, but don't chastise those that don't. I can see what you're seeing, "I get" where they were going, I just don't like it among other things.

Damn this guy is on point. The dark knight rises was so up it's ass it's sad. The whole 8yr time gap is stupid and pathetic . If you know batman he wouldn't ***** out over a female.
 
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