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Damn this guy is on point. The dark knight rises was so up it's ass it's sad. The whole 8yr time gap is stupid and pathetic . If you know batman he wouldn't ***** out over a female.

not only that but Nolan was being completely retarded when making this movie. There is so much wrong with it.
Why did Bane and Miranda waited 8 years? for the bomb? why couldn't they just get another one?

Why wouldn't Bruce just flood the reactor? he wasn't going to use it, Why keep it around?
 
Actually I think the movie would've played better if instead of having the 8 year gap at the beginning, they'd folded all of that into the timeframe while Bruce was healing.
 
Damn this guy is on point. The dark knight rises was so up it's ass it's sad. The whole 8yr time gap is stupid and pathetic . If you know batman he wouldn't ***** out over a female.

nonsense...and it was alot more than over a female
 
Actually I think the movie would've played better if instead of having the 8 year gap at the beginning, they'd folded all of that into the timeframe while Bruce was healing.

shortening the timeframe would work ...I could see that gap being alot less....but it still works
 
nonsense...and it was alot more than over a female

I understand not wanting to be batman anymore and retiring but why did he have to let his father's company (and legacy) burn to the ground?

Nolan means to tell me Bruce Wayne spend 8 years in his house talking to no one but Alfred? seriously? WTF? he never left his house?
 
not only that but Nolan was being completely retarded when making this movie. There is so much wrong with it.
Why did Bane and Miranda waited 8 years? for the bomb? why couldn't they just get another one?

Why wouldn't Bruce just flood the reactor? he wasn't going to use it, Why keep it around?

Not to mention catwoman. I mean jeez can we get a more down played version of her. Did she mention at least one cat or a trait of a cat in the movie? Nah she was just some cliche spy chick. But hey realistic right?
 
Not to mention catwoman. I mean jeez can we get a more down played version of her. Did she mention at least one cat or a trait of a cat in the movie? Nah she was just some cliche spy chick. But hey realistic right?

Bane wasn't a juiced up wrestler. Instead we got a fit midget with a speedo over his face. :huh
 
Bane wasn't a juiced up wrestler. Instead we got a fit midget with a speedo over his face. :huh

That's right...now if they had gotten a real wrestler like say Sgt Slaughter it would have changed the dynamics of the film completely!....:rotfl
 
Bane's voice is really terrible. I know people joke about it and whatnot but I was listening to him today and I couldn't take the character seriously.
He sounded like that Beluga Whale
[ame]https://youtu.be/HDDgJPKuSf0[/ame]

This is exactly how Bane freaking sounds..... Like a Beluga talking whale...
 
THIS!!!!!
This is why this movie SUCKS!!!!!!
https://youtu.be/WQJuGeqdbn4

:clap:clap:clap:clap:clap:clap:

THIS IS WHY THIS MOVIE IS SH___T!:exactly:
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Priceless! :rotfl
 
That's not what I'm speaking to in your post. Nolan's TDKr and Miller's TDKR are essentially the same storyline and the same Bruce Wayne. You like one you should have no problems with the other if characterization is your complaint.



In the Dark Knight Returns,

- Bruce has been Batman for decades

- Bruce quits being Batman for a decade and he's approaching his 60s.

- He quit because he's a vigilante and masked heroes and heroes in general are outlawed save for Superman. He didn't want to stop, he was forced to

- He returns when he can't take seeing the rise in crime and filth on television anymore and when the Batman persona reemerges. He shaves off his mustache without even knowing and becomes Batman for his own personal satisfaction. Crime rates drop dramatically

- Everyone are in awe over his return, since it's been a decade since his return. Senior cops, citizens and criminals alike remember him when he was in his prime decades and decades ago

- Alfred never leaves his side and dies along with Bruce's legacy

- Bruce Wayne "dies" after having a heart attack whilst fighting Superman

- He fakes his death and recruits members for his mission to still wage war on crime



In the Dark Knight Rises,

- Bruce has been Batman for a year, a year and a half tops

- Bruce quit being Batman for seven years he's approaching his 40s

- He quit after his friend Rachel died and took the blame for Dent's murders (even though he was an outlaw to begin with). He tried to quit before as well and live a life with Rachel but the Joker stood in his way.

- He returns when a criminal known as Catwoman steals his mother's necklace and a "mercenary" known as Bane is on the loose. Gotham appears to be fine until Batman shows up and messes everything up.

- People don't care that he returned, since it's been 7 years. A cop explains to his rookie that he's in for a show tonight, a nod to Frank Miller's "Dark Knight Returns". The senior cop, I guess remembered him when he was in his prime just a decade ago when he was fighting crime for just over 12 months and he built up his urban legend reputation that orphans everywhere talk about

- Alfred leaves him

- Bruce Wayne "dies" when flying over the sea with a Nuclear weapon

- He fakes his own death, lies for a second, even a third time (maybe more if you count every person he's lied to since TDK)

- Lives a life with the woman that stole from him, helped break his back in France, living out a poorly scripted dream that his "faithful" Butler had in a flash back



Yeah, they retire and come back, but that's pretty much the only similarity, character wise. As far as characterization goes, they're vastly different.

There's other similarities too, like the pneumatic mangler (except Rises uses it on his knee), the cops, some lines taken here and there, etc.

But that makes it good? That they take things directly from Miller's story but down play it?

I mean you have,

A Bruce that's been Batman for decades, quits for a decade, comes back because "Batman tells him to" and lives in a world of gangs, crazies and filth. "Dies" by Superman, continues what he was motivated to do, fight crime.

vs.


A Bruce that has reluctantly been Batman for about a year, quits for a second time. Lives in a clean world under some superficial script "Act" that's based on a lie (are we sure Gothamites wouldn't forgive Dent and claim his murders were a "crime of passion" after his fiancee was murdered, he was horribly scarred by a maniac and the hospital that contained him was destroyed. Surely they'd understand the murders?).

Then "dies" by lying again to live peacefully in Italy. Has a rookie cop take over for him, just because he was an orphan too.






Yeah, I should like TDKR because it's the same as The Dark Knight Returns. Good stuff.
 
That's right...now if they had gotten a real wrestler like say Sgt Slaughter it would have changed the dynamics of the film completely!....:rotfl

Nah, they still needed an antagonist who could come across as weak enough to castrate when the real villain revealed herself only to perform one of the worst onscreen deaths in a decade.
 
In the Dark Knight Returns,

- Bruce has been Batman for decades

- Bruce quits being Batman for a decade and he's approaching his 60s.

- He quit because he's a vigilante and masked heroes and heroes in general are outlawed save for Superman. He didn't want to stop, he was forced to

- He returns when he can't take seeing the rise in crime and filth on television anymore and when the Batman persona reemerges. He shaves off his mustache without even knowing and becomes Batman for his own personal satisfaction. Crime rates drop dramatically

- Everyone are in awe over his return, since it's been a decade since his return. Senior cops, citizens and criminals alike remember him when he was in his prime decades and decades ago

- Alfred never leaves his side and dies along with Bruce's legacy

- Bruce Wayne "dies" after having a heart attack whilst fighting Superman

- He fakes his death and recruits members for his mission to still wage war on crime



In the Dark Knight Rises,

- Bruce has been Batman for a year, a year and a half tops

- Bruce quit being Batman for seven years he's approaching his 40s

- He quit after his friend Rachel died and took the blame for Dent's murders (even though he was an outlaw to begin with). He tried to quit before as well and live a life with Rachel but the Joker stood in his way.

- He returns when a criminal known as Catwoman steals his mother's necklace and a "mercenary" known as Bane is on the loose. Gotham appears to be fine until Batman shows up and messes everything up.

- People don't care that he returned, since it's been a 7 years. A cop explains to his rookie that he's in for a show tonight, a nod to Frank Miller's "Dark Knight Returns". The senior cop remember him when he was in his prime just a decade ago when he was fighting crime for just over 12 months and he built up his urban legend reputation that orphans everywhere talk about

- Alfred leaves him

- Bruce Wayne "dies" when flying over the sea with a Nuclear weapon

- He fakes his own death, lies for a second, even a third time (maybe more if you count every person he's lied to since TDK)

- Lives a life with the woman that stole from him, helped break his back in France, living out a poorly scripted dream that his "faithful" Butler had in a flash back



Yeah, they retire and come back, but that's pretty much the only similarity, character wise. As far as characterization goes, they're vastly different.

There's other similarities too, like the pneumatic mangler (except Rises uses it on his knee), the cops, some lines taken here and there, etc.

But that makes it good? That they take things directly from Miller's story but down play it?

I mean you have,

A Bruce that's been Batman for decades, quits for a decade, comes back because "Batman tells him to" and lives in a world of gangs, crazies and filth. "Dies" by Superman, continues what he was motivated to do, fight crime.

vs.


A Bruce that has reluctantly been Batman for about a year, quits for a second time. Lives in a clean world under some superficial script "Act" that's based on a lie (are we sure Gothamites wouldn't forgive Dent and claim his murders were a "crime of passion" after his fiancee was murdered, he was horribly scarred by a maniac and the hospital that contained him was destroyed. Surely they'd understand the murders?).

Then "dies" by lying again to live peacefully in Italy. Has a rookie cop take over for him, just because he was an orphan too.






Good stuff.

the funny thing about that is the Bane and Ras were completely right, Even the joker was right, in Nolan's universe Batman is completely useless and made no difference. He did stop the main bad guys but at the end of Rises all the prisoners are out in the streets, the Dent act is no more, for all the trouble and heartache that Bruce suffered Gotham still ended up with the bad guys on the streets. It was like Nolan was practically saying Gotham is beyond saving, all Bruce did was delay its impending doom.
 
at the end of Rises all the prisoners are out in the streets, the Dent act is no more, for all the trouble and heartache that Bruce suffered Gotham still ended up with the bad guys on the streets. It was like Nolan was practically saying Gotham is beyond saving, all Bruce did was delay its impending doom.

Bruce's story ended, John Blake can handle it with his police training.
 
the funny thing about that is the Bane and Ras were completely right, Even the joker was right, in Nolan's universe Batman is completely useless and made no difference. He did stop the main bad guys but at the end of Rises all the prisoners are out in the streets, the Dent act is no more, for all the trouble and heartache that Bruce suffered Gotham still ended up with the bad guys on the streets. It was like Nolan was practically saying Gotham is beyond saving, all Bruce did was delay its impending doom.

Sounds like the real world too, eh? :dunno
 
A Bruce that has reluctantly been Batman for about a year, quits for a second time. Lives in a clean world under some superficial script "Act" that's based on a lie (are we sure Gothamites wouldn't forgive Dent and claim his murders were a "crime of passion" after his fiancee was murdered, he was horribly scarred by a maniac and the hospital that contained him was destroyed. Surely they'd understand the murders.

If dis happened though, it could possibly diminish the great ending from TDK. :(
 
the funny thing about that is the Bane and Ras were completely right, Even the joker was right, in Nolan's universe Batman is completely useless and made no difference. He did stop the main bad guys but at the end of Rises all the prisoners are out in the streets, the Dent act is no more, for all the trouble and heartache that Bruce suffered Gotham still ended up with the bad guys on the streets. It was like Nolan was practically saying Gotham is beyond saving, all Bruce did was delay its impending doom.

Nah, it took him three movies to finally get to the Batman that Gotham needs, the one they deserve, during the epilogue of the last film. :lol
 
In the Dark Knight Returns,

- Bruce has been Batman for decades

- Bruce quits being Batman for a decade and he's approaching his 60s.

- He quit because he's a vigilante and masked heroes and heroes in general are outlawed save for Superman. He didn't want to stop, he was forced to

- He returns when he can't take seeing the rise in crime and filth on television anymore and when the Batman persona reemerges. He shaves off his mustache without even knowing and becomes Batman for his own personal satisfaction. Crime rates drop dramatically

- Everyone are in awe over his return, since it's been a decade since his return. Senior cops, citizens and criminals alike remember him when he was in his prime decades and decades ago

- Alfred never leaves his side and dies along with Bruce's legacy

- Bruce Wayne "dies" after having a heart attack whilst fighting Superman

- He fakes his death and recruits members for his mission to still wage war on crime



In the Dark Knight Rises,

- Bruce has been Batman for a year, a year and a half tops

- Bruce quit being Batman for seven years he's approaching his 40s

- He quit after his friend Rachel died and took the blame for Dent's murders (even though he was an outlaw to begin with). He tried to quit before as well and live a life with Rachel but the Joker stood in his way.

- He returns when a criminal known as Catwoman steals his mother's necklace and a "mercenary" known as Bane is on the loose. Gotham appears to be fine until Batman shows up and messes everything up.

- People don't care that he returned, since it's been a 7 years. A cop explains to his rookie that he's in for a show tonight, a nod to Frank Miller's "Dark Knight Returns". The senior cop remember him when he was in his prime just a decade ago when he was fighting crime for just over 12 months and he built up his urban legend reputation that orphans everywhere talk about

- Alfred leaves him

- Bruce Wayne "dies" when flying over the sea with a Nuclear weapon

- He fakes his own death, lies for a second, even a third time (maybe more if you count every person he's lied to since TDK)

- Lives a life with the woman that stole from him, helped break his back in France, living out a poorly scripted dream that his "faithful" Butler had in a flash back



Yeah, they retire and come back, but that's pretty much the only similarity, character wise. As far as characterization goes, they're vastly different.

There's other similarities too, like the pneumatic mangler (except Rises uses it on his knee), the cops, some lines taken here and there, etc.

But that makes it good? That they take things directly from Miller's story but down play it?

I mean you have,

A Bruce that's been Batman for decades, quits for a decade, comes back because "Batman tells him to" and lives in a world of gangs, crazies and filth. "Dies" by Superman, continues what he was motivated to do, fight crime.

vs.


A Bruce that has reluctantly been Batman for about a year, quits for a second time. Lives in a clean world under some superficial script "Act" that's based on a lie (are we sure Gothamites wouldn't forgive Dent and claim his murders were a "crime of passion" after his fiancee was murdered, he was horribly scarred by a maniac and the hospital that contained him was destroyed. Surely they'd understand the murders?).

Then "dies" by lying again to live peacefully in Italy. Has a rookie cop take over for him, just because he was an orphan too.






Yeah, I should like TDKR because it's the same as The Dark Knight Returns. Good stuff.


iPads aren't conducive to replying to walls so I'll just say that it's clear you want to try and frame Nolan's film in a bad light because you couldn't find yourself on screen, but in reality you've just outlined how similar they are once you sift through your pity party points. Man retires over tragedy, comes back when needed most, fakes death, sets up next generation, the end. You can pose the extracurriculars how you see fit.
 
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