The Dark Knight Rises *SPOILERS*

[ZaCHw117]

For one you need a reboot for a JLA film. Honestly, I think they want to also get away from this version of Batman a bit. I think they will aim for more the IMO great balance you're seeing in the Marvel films.

Some people did. I didn't. I enjoyed those spidey films and I enjoyed ASM as well. I enjoyed the Nolan films and I'm sure unless any new Batman films are like the last few before this run started I'll like those.

JLA film?

By that logic they are gonna have to reboot Superman after MOS too. Since they are going for a more set in reality type of feel.

 

[SnakeDoctor]

JLA film?

By that logic they are gonna have to reboot Superman after MOS too. Since they are going for a more set in reality type of feel.

They seem to have backed off the "separate universe" stance for the new Superman franchise. Cavill might be Superman for a JL movie.

SnakeDoc

 

[The Josh]

JLA film?

By that logic they are gonna have to reboot Superman after MOS too. Since they are going for a more set in reality type of feel.

So you're not into seeing a JLA movie?

Nah, the move towards it starts with Superman according to what was said at the Superman panel.

 

[DiFabio]

JLA film?
By that logic they are gonna have to reboot Superman after MOS too.

Unless Man of Steel will be the start of Justice League films.

Since they are going for a more set in reality type of feel.

Because a flying, bearded fisherman from another world that can plow through buildings, fly, and fight other supermen is grounded and set in reality?

If he can work what's so strange about an amazonian princess or a man that can run extremely fast?

Not saying I want a JLA film (if anything I'd rather have a Batman and Superman film) or that I even want these different comic characters to interact. Just saying, never know what the future may hold.

 

[intothevoid]

They seem to have backed off the "separate universe" stance for the new Superman franchise. Cavill might be Superman for a JL movie.

SnakeDoc

Yupp

I don't know - while I would love for JGL as Batman story be explored, unless Nolan and co. are doing it (which they won't be), I feel it has potential for disaster and could taint what went before.

May be best to just start fresh and go a completely different direction for two reasons;
1. Whoever does Batman next doesn't want to be compared directly to Nolan in terms of style and tone, because that would mean almost certain failure IMO. The Nolan films have been as good as that particular interpretation of the character could be I think. So time to go fantastical route ala Arkham Asylum/City games, or something similar.
2. They pretty much have to go fantastical route if the new Batman is going to be compatible with a JLA film. Audience has to believe in the new Batman existing alongside the likes of Superman, Green Lantern, Wonder Woman, Flash... and not to mention potential villains like Darkseid or whomsoever they chose to go with.

 

[IrishJedi]

Unless Man of Steel will be the start of Justice League films.

Which it will be. Just a lot more subtle than Marvel's approach, which is fine by me.

 

[MasterSafara]

If it's not Nolan I hope it is no one. So that we can savor and enjoy his films for a long time.

 

[IrishJedi]

Why so soon though?

People _____ed about the spidey reboot only being 5 years difference from SM3. But their fine if they reboot these (much better films) a couple years down the road?

Yes, because Batman is Batman... and much bigger and more accepted than just the Nolan films.

I said it before... they can reboot with a new Batman every 2 years and as long as the movies are good people will be there. Batman might actually be one of the few heroes (or few properties at all) where an anthology approach would actually work.

 

[IrishJedi]

If it's not Nolan I hope it is no one. So that we can savor and enjoy his films for a long time.

First of all, it won't be Nolan. He's done with Batman. At least with directing.

Secondly, it's been many many years since there has been a Batman film that was stubbornly stuck in "realism". It's time for the Batman that has existed for over 70 years to return to the big screen. Something that really hasn't even been done yet at all, unless you count MASK OF THE PHANTASM.

Thirdly, why would a new film prevent you from savoring or enjoying the Nolan films?? Unless you're a dyed-in-the-wool frontrunner or bandwagon fan that should not affect you in the least. Nolan's trilogy exists. It's part of history now... its own unique segment of Batman lore, and nothing will change that.

 

[Jokes & Bats]

I'm the only one that thinks this movie is pretty bad? I love Begins and TDK and I was hopping to see a great finale for Bruce/Batman in this but I didn't find it in the movie.
I'm think is pretty weak, empty and full of cheesy moments... far from being a good movie and also being the worst of the 3!

I'm really Pissed off with this, really...

It does have some very cheesy moments. I noticed some awful corny dialogue in the first half. I was a little dissapointed when I came out the cinema but the more I think about it, the more I like and can overlook it's shortcoming. Like a lot of people on here have pointed out, there is a lot to take in, so I am seeing it again on Thursday to appreciate it more.

Only thing I don't understand at the moment is hatred towards Bane. I loved him and thought he was fantastic but that's just my opinion.

 

[Solidus]

Yupp

I don't know - while I would love for JGL as Batman story be explored, unless Nolan and co. are doing it (which they won't be), I feel it has potential for disaster and could taint what went before.

May be best to just start fresh and go a completely different direction for two reasons;
1. Whoever does Batman next doesn't want to be compared directly to Nolan in terms of style and tone, because that would mean almost certain failure IMO. The Nolan films have been as good as that particular interpretation of the character could be I think. So time to go fantastical route ala Arkham Asylum/City games, or something similar.
2. They pretty much have to go fantastical route if the new Batman is going to be compatible with a JLA film. Audience has to believe in the new Batman existing alongside the likes of Superman, Green Lantern, Wonder Woman, Flash... and not to mention potential villains like Darkseid or whomsoever they chose to go with.

Very true. Nolan's vision on the franchise was too grounded in reality for something like JLA, or even other superheroes to co-exist with Batman. They'll definitely go the way of a more fantasy-type setting for the next movie - something that resembles more of the comics.

I'm not keep on superheroes, by the way. That's the main reason for why I've enjoyed Nolan's movies so much.

 

[ZaCHw117]

It's time for the Batman that has existed for over 70 years to return to the big screen. .

You mean this one?

....

 

[DreaAlGhul]

If I could change one thing with Bane, I would've given him a cat to hold at all times.

Oh my God, some one photoshop this... PLEASE.

 

[MasterSafara]

That's what I said. It's not going to be Nolan.

 

[IrishJedi]

You mean this one?

....

Having a few shots of Batman crouching on gargoyles and rafters does not negate the fact that Nolan discounted many key aspects of the character and his world.

But now that top image. If that were actually representative of a movie Batman...

Still... a few iconic images does not a true Batman make. Nolan's interpretation was interesting, and his films were good... but they're not the definitive Batman.

 

[plasmid303]

Batman's not a singular idea wrapped up in one image. There are aspects of the character that each film (live-action or otherwise) has managed to represent. And regardless, the character changes all the time.

People want the character to be everything in one. He can't be.

 

[gagaliya]

this movie wasnt very good, the worst of 3. The dark knight is the best, followed by batman begins.

The best part was the superman trailer...

 

[IrishJedi]

Batman's not a singular idea wrapped up in one image. There are aspects of the character that each film (live-action or otherwise) has managed to represent. And regardless, the character changes all the time.

That's true. And that's why Batman fans should welcome a reboot (as long as the movies are GOOD and not Schumacheresque).

 

[intothevoid]

but they're not the definitive Batman.

IMO there is NO definitive Batman.

Even BTAS or Arkham City to me is just another interpretation, if looked at through the lense of 70+ yrs of history.

 

[Solidus]

It's time for the Batman that has existed for over 70 years to return to the big screen.

There's no such thing. Batman's concept has constantly been changed throughout the course of history. The only thing about him that does remain consistent, is his back-story - his parents being shot, which inspires him to become the "caped crusader" . Every director so far, has had their own different take on Batman, and that's not going to change with the next movie. Granted, that it will most likely be more of a fantasy setting, to pave the way for Batman to join the Justice League in the upcoming JLA movie.