The Dark Knight Rises *SPOILERS*

[Kabukiman]

Batman's not a singular idea wrapped up in one image. There are aspects of the character that each film (live-action or otherwise) has managed to represent. And regardless, the character changes all the time.

People want the character to be everything in one. He can't be.

This Batman:

Is every bit as much a Batman as this:

Now that this chapter in Batman's movie legacy has ended, I'm ready for whatever's next, as long as whoever makes it commits to their vision and doesn't try to be all things to everybody (which I think was Schumacher's failing).

 

[thenammagazine]

nolan is more true to the source material than schumacher.

Absolutely yes.

It's about characters and characterisation

Yes, there IS the difference that Nolan Wayne sees Batman as a means to an end, not an end in and of itself which comic book Batman is like most of the time

Clearly neither of you have followed Batman that long. The blatant absurdity that made up Batman & Robin was straight from the pages of his books. It sucked ass in live-action, but it was a damn sight closer than anything in TDK or TDKR.

 

[IrishJedi]

I loved Batman: The Brave and The Bold

 

[Indiana]

I personally loved the movie, the best out of the three. I think that it was magnificent, "cheesy" moments and all. Each time I think of the Dark Knight, I think of Maggie Gyllenhaal's melted face and terrible acting.

As for Bane's accent, I read somewhere (I can't find the source at the moment) that Hardy was using the accent of a real-life Gypsy bare-knuckle boxer. He wanted the accent to be Latin based, but not Latino Latin, but a more ancient Latin. It adds to the "old" part of the world that the prison is supposed to be.

 

[jye4ever]

Clearly neither of you have followed Batman that long. The blatant absurdity that made up Batman & Robin was straight from the pages of his books. It sucked ass in live-action, but it was a damn sight closer than anything in TDK or TDKR.

I watch B&R once every 2 months for the lolz and as a drinking game for how many grapples are thrown.

 

[Ziggie]

I watch B&R once every 2 months for the lolz and as a drinking game for how many grapples are thrown.

 

[CelticPredator]

Accurate to the source material didn't make Spider-Man any better, so why would've it made TDKR better?

And so what if it takes you in a unique direction? If you tell me TDKR isn't great because of story, plot, character, writing problems, alright. But if you tell me it's bad because it's not like the comics. Meh to that good sir.


I read a good percentage of the old Deadpool comics. And I read the movie script. And it's great. Is it accurate? Some things are, but for the most part, a ton of changes. Do they bother me? No. Why? Because it's a movie. Not 15- + issues of a comic series wrapped up in one.


You can only say they ____ed up the comic if the book is a one shot, or graphic novel, and they never stuck true to it. Like Wanted.

 

[Dr.Mirakle32]

nolan is more true to the source material than schumacher.

That is actually very debatable. Say what you will about quality of Joel's films, they're pretty accurate to the comics in many ways.

They do a good job evoking the campier silver age, as well as certain aspects of the 90's era.

 

[CelticPredator]

So there you go. I'll take Burton's, and Nolan's inaccurate comic masterpieces over that. Any day of the week.

 

[jye4ever]

So there you go. I'll take Burton's, and Nolan's inaccurate comic masterpieces over that. Any day of the week.

I like your style.

But I don't like Transformers.

 

[Dr.Mirakle32]

I'm not gonna lie. I love Batman Forever and put it on equal footing with Returns any day of the week. ____ popular opinion!

B&R on the other hand...

 

[CelticPredator]

That's OK. They're horrible movies.

 

[wofford29]

I've always found the reverence for the comics to be bizarre. Outside of a few (mostly contained stories and one-shots) they are mostly forgettable. There is a reason why people remember the likes of Kingdom Come, TDKR, The Killing Joke, The Long Halloween and why the other majority is just forgotten. When someone says it's veered from the source material I say thank goodness. Inspiration of the source is good enough for me.

 

[jye4ever]

I'm not gonna lie. I love Batman Forever and put it on equal footing with Returns any day of the week. ____ popular opinion!

B&R on the other hand...

I'm the complete opposite, I prefer B&R over Forever any day of the week.

They're both garbage but B&R is so far deep into crazy and zany territory that it actually has lolz entertainment value vs the boring Forever.

 

[DiFabio]

ALL Batman interpretations are canon! They all connect in one continuity.

Batman Forever is the sequel to The Dark Knight Rises according to this idea,


https://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/the-big-picture/6074-Worlds-Within-Worlds




WHO GIVES A ____. BATMAN IS 73 YEARS OLD AND LOOKS 30 SOMETHING.

 

[CelticPredator]

I've always found the reverence for the comics to be bizarre. Outside of a few (mostly contained stories and one-shots) they are mostly forgettable. There is a reason why people remember the likes of Kingdom Come, TDKR, The Killing Joke, The Long Halloween and why the other majority is just forgotten. When someone says it's veered from the source material I say thank goodness. Inspiration of the source is good enough for me.

Agreed.......

 

[intothevoid]

I've always found the reverence for the comics to be bizarre. Outside of a few (mostly contained stories and one-shots) they are mostly forgettable. There is a reason why people remember the likes of Kingdom Come, TDKR, The Killing Joke, The Long Halloween and why the other majority is just forgotten. When someone says it's veered from the source material I say thank goodness. Inspiration of the source is good enough for me.

There's only so many comics storylines / arcs / graphic novels which I think are worthy of being used as direct source material for film

 

[Dr.Mirakle32]

I'm the complete opposite, I prefer B&R over Forever any day of the week.

They're both garbage but B&R is so far deep into crazy and zany territory that it actually has lolz entertainment value vs the boring Forever.

Forever has a pretty strong story, IMO. The main thing that really brings it down is how over the top the villains are. If the Riddler was toned down just a bit, and Jones played it straight, it would definitely be better received.

Returns on the other hand, has a top notch cast, production design, cinematography, score, and atmosphere, but the story itself is very poorly structured and paced.

They both make up for the other one's flaws, which make them interchangeable to me.

 

[SnakeDoctor]

I've always found the reverence for the comics to be bizarre. Outside of a few (mostly contained stories and one-shots) they are mostly forgettable. There is a reason why people remember the likes of Kingdom Come, TDKR, The Killing Joke, The Long Halloween and why the other majority is just forgotten. When someone says it's veered from the source material I say thank goodness. Inspiration of the source is good enough for me.

I agree. The comics are a mess -- a few good ideas among a lot of bad, not-notable, or completely contradictory ideas. They're certainly not one cohesive story that can be called "canon". The comics are a good place for experimenting with story ideas or developing, backtracking, and redeveloping ideas. They're inexpensive, and a great way to see what works and what doesn't. They can't be taken as gospel ... because they won't make sense.

Take a few of the good ideas ... rewrite, contradict or ignore the rest. "Inspired" is good enough for me.

SnakeDoc

 

[jye4ever]

WB, give us Batman Triumphant!

I guess he fights Muhammad Ali in that script.