The Dark Knight Rises *SPOILERS*

[intothevoid]

Throw away badassdigest and read this

 

[jye4ever]

Throw away badassdigest and read this

Ok.

 

[Jokes & Bats]

This is long but 100% spot on! Really well written analysis of the themes and ideas of the trilogy:

https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/batman/22099/the-dark-knight-rises-bringing-batman-full-circle

That was pretty damn good.

 

[cokebabies]

If I could change one thing with Bane, I would've given him a cat to hold at all times.

Osito or nothing!

 

[Ambrosoli]

I'm the only one that thinks this movie is pretty bad? I love Begins and TDK and I was hopping to see a great finale for Bruce/Batman in this but I didn't find it in the movie.
I'm think is pretty weak, empty and full of cheesy moments... far from being a good movie and also being the worst of the 3!

I'm really Pissed off with this, really...

 

[ZaCHw117]

No, the film is mind-blowing.

 

[thenammagazine]

Oh sure anyone could have given that speech... just not how Hardy did it.

Just do a Silence of the Lambs Buffalo Bill impression talking into a coffee can.

No, the film is mind-blowing.

I was gonna post that Scanners exploding head pic and say, ZaCH at the theatres, but then decided against it thinking it would be in poor taste.

 

[intothevoid]

That was pretty damn good.

It sure was

 

[DiFabio]

I'm the only one that thinks this movie is pretty bad? I love Begins and TDK and I was hopping to see a great finale for Bruce/Batman in this but I didn't find it in the movie.
I'm think is pretty weak, empty and full of cheesy moments... far from being a good movie and also being the worst of the 3!

I'm really Pissed off with this, really...

I don't think it's bad, not bad at all. I was impressed with it, just not wowed. Good, not great. Enjoyable not perfect.

Though I agree with your statement about it being the worst of the three. It was satisfying on a basic level. The ending, while sufficient as a conclusion doesn't really capture the spirit of Batman. A positive ending for Bruce Wayne? Sure, but I never once felt that this guy was traumatized by the death of his parents. Different interpretation I guess (I'm still waiting for the vow-to-his-parents, dedicated to the mission, borderline psychopath Batman).

Also the Sideshow 1:1 statue of Batman, "sacrifice" and martyrdom for an entire city, happy go lucky expressions across tables in Italy. It all just seemed a little too "Disney" for me. All wrapped up in a nice bright bow. That's what Batman is about? It's the exact opposite of a "silent guardian, a watchful protector, a Dark Knight".

Didn't piss me off though.

 

[jye4ever]

Nolan's goodbye to Batman in the Art and Making book sure was purrty.

I'm going to miss the brit even with my feelings of being slightly let down for TDKR.

Most are super excited for the reboot, I'm happy for them.

Me not so thrilled about it, sure it could be fun to see the bigger universe, but for now i'll cherish Nolan's Batman trilogy on dvd, warts and all.

I will nevah get sick of watching all 3 at home.

Hell, TDKR might still surprise me.

Bring on the collectibles!

Thank You Sir Nolan for such a wonderful ride.

This is dedicated to the Batman fans whos life were cut so short on opening weekend, I will have you all in my thoughts in honor of you on my next viewing, which will be this weekend.

 

[DiFabio]

As long as the reboot is nothing like what the Amazing Spider-Man did and they don't make Bruce Wayne emo, hipster, or a young boi it should be fine.

Oh and no secret origins, untold story nonsense.

Batman is a 73 year old character with a great history. The Nolan films were but a chapter in this wealthy history. A major contribution, yes, but it's Batman, there is always more to come.

 

[intothevoid]

Nolan's goodbye to Batman in the Art and Making book sure was purrty.

I'm going to miss the brit even with my feelings of being slightly let down for TDKR.

Most are super excited for the reboot, I'm happy for them.

Me not so thrilled about it, sure it could be fun to see the bigger universe, but for now i'll cherish Nolan's Batman trilogy on dvd, warts and all.

I will nevah get sick of watching all 3 at home.

Hell, TDKR might still surprise me.

Bring on the collectibles!

Thank You Sir Nolan for such a wonderful ride.

This is dedicated to the Batman fans whos life were cut so short on opening weekend, I will have you all in my thoughts in honor of you on my next viewing, which will be this weekend.

 

[ZaCHw117]

____ the reboot.

Nolan produce, new director continue Blake's story.

 

[Ambrosoli]

I don't think it's bad, not bad at all. I was impressed with it, just not wowed. Good, not great. Enjoyable not perfect.

Though I agree with your statement about it being the worst of the three. It was satisfying on a basic level. The ending, while sufficient as a conclusion doesn't really capture the spirit of Batman. A positive ending for Bruce Wayne? Sure, but I never once felt that this guy was traumatized by the death of his parents. Different interpretation I guess (I'm still waiting for the vow-to-his-parents, dedicated to the mission, borderline psychopath Batman).

Also the Sideshow 1:1 statue of Batman, "sacrifice" and martyrdom for an entire city, happy go lucky expressions across tables in Italy. It all just seemed a little too "Disney" for me. All wrapped up in a nice bright bow. That's what Batman is about? It's the exact opposite of a "silent guardian, a watchful protector, a Dark Knight".

Didn't piss me off though.

Exactly.
I know that this is the vision on Nolan, but if you wan't to do this why don't you create your own history? With Blake is the perfect example.. why did you use that guy when you have real characters that can fit in the history? He use blake because he WAN'T his own history, and I don't buy that. I wan't to see Batman, and all the stuff that is inside of Rises lack of it. I don't see the real Batman in there, and also don't see the real pain and loss of Bruce being developed to finally accept Batman... he even throws out Alfred.. what?!?!?!

 

[Irvy]

Dude, that's kind of what I'm saying, but I disagree that none of it makes sense:



But, like I also said, despite this:



On some level you think so too, because you're playing.



Maybe there is a solution to that problem...


You have a point here. This doesn't really contradict The Dark Knight taking place in 2008 as the on-screen evidence from DiFabio shows.

Bear with me a sec: Maybe Batman Begins from his first night out to defeating Ra's does actually take place over a couple years, as Zach suggested:



--and it is from:

2003 - 2005

Things that suddenly fit if we accept this, and assume that TDK takes place in 2008:

2003 - Bruce Wayne returns to Gotham City, has his first night out, begins prowling as the Batman.

2003 - Jimmy is a two year-old infant when Batman visits Gordon at home.

2005 - Batman defeats Ra's Al Ghul on the train. Remember this is on the SAME NIGHT that he has his 30th birthday party.

2005 - 2008 - Offscreen, Batman wages war on crime, working his way up to the big fish of the mob. Assuming this is true conveniently explains several things:

- (1) Like SnakeDoc suggests, it is not until a year before TDK that he is finally having an impact that is really hurting them and making them take notice.

- (2) All during this time, while Batman is building his reputation, Joker commits random crimes and builds up his own legend among criminals. This is where we get the "So why do they call him the Joker?" "I heard he wears makeup..to scare people...y'know, war paint" lines. It makes sense that it takes a while to build up that kind of rumormill/reputation. It also explains the "Two-bit wack job, cheap purple suit" line from Maroni and the "Him again" line from Batman. Joker wasn't wearing the purple suit during the bank robbery, so Maroni must have seen/heard of him before. Like Batman, dispite his crimes, he views him as just a minor nuisance to be dealth with later.

- (3) Guestimating this three-year gap between the films also neatly explains the line in The Dark Knight Manual that he was wearing the Original Suit for 5 years---he was---from 2003 to 2008.

- (4) Finally, this 3 year gap ages little Jimmy almost perfectly. If he is two years-old in 2003, then he is seven in 2008. It doesn't take much stretching in either direction to make him an 8 year-old, or to even just assume he is supposed to be seven in that film.

The Dark Knight Rises is eight years later.

2016 Now I know the Gotham Civil War poster contradicts this, with the date of the exhibit ending in 2014. But this is the only really hard-set date we know of (as of now anyway), and it's not really clear if it even appears noticeably on-screen or if a hard-set date of 2014 appears in the final film on screen, so I'm willing to overlook it. Also, I realize this is just an excuse, but that poster could be an "old" ad that was never taken down, or pasted over with something else newer that is peeling off. It certainly doesn't look like it's supposed to be in new condition. Just sayin'.

Working backward from the above dates, we can make the milestones in Bruce's life fit too.

2003 - Bruce Wayne returns to Gotham. Based on the above that he turns 30 in 2005, he turns 28 in 2003. Since we know he was away for seven years, he dropped out of Princeton at 21 (or 20, depending on his birthday) as an undergrad in his senior year, just shy of graduation.

Working farther back and using the casefile of the Wayne murders in The Dark Knight Manual

November 8, 1983 - The Waynes are gunned down. Bruce is 10 or 11 years old (again, depending on his birthday)

1972 or 1973 - Bruce Wayne is born.

I tip my hat to you good sir!

 

[jye4ever]

As long as the reboot is nothing like what the Amazing Spider-Man did and they don't make Bruce Wayne emo, hipster, or a young boi it should be fine.

Oh and no secret origins, untold story nonsense.

Batman is a 73 year old character with a great history. The Nolan films were but a chapter in this wealthy history. A major contribution, yes, but it's Batman, there is always more to come.

I'm surprised because Batman is not too popular.

____ the reboot.

Nolan produce, new director continue Blake's story.

he even throws out Alfred.. what?!?!?!

I tip my hat to you good sir!

Yeah, DM is da man.

 

[The Josh]

____ the reboot.

Nolan produce, new director continue Blake's story.

Nolan's ride through Batville was fun but its time for a reboot to be honest.

 

[ZaCHw117]

Nolan's ride through Batville was fun but its time for a reboot to be honest.

Why so soon though?

People _____ed about the spidey reboot only being 5 years difference from SM3. But their fine if they reboot these (much better films) a couple years down the road?

 

[DiFabio]

People _____ed about the spidey reboot only being 5 years difference from SM3. But their fine if they reboot these (much better films) a couple years down the road?

The Dark Knight Rises = Spider-Man 3


???


Dunno man, dunno.

 

[The Josh]

Why so soon though?

People _____ed about the spidey reboot only being 5 years difference from SM3. But their fine if they reboot these (much better films) a couple years down the road?

For one you need a reboot for a JLA film. Honestly, I think they want to also get away from this version of Batman a bit. I think they will aim for more the IMO great balance you're seeing in the Marvel films.

Some people did. I didn't. I enjoyed those spidey films and I enjoyed ASM as well. I enjoyed the Nolan films and I'm sure unless any new Batman films are like the last few before this run started I'll like those.