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I wouldn't be surprised to see Nolan actually using Bane to injure Batman bad enough, like in Knightfall, to put him out of commission for a bit and allow the people of Gotham to rise up and take back their city letting Wayne come full circle from Begins and finally being able to hang up the cape because he inspired a city to the point of no longer needing him. Maybe the title isn't just for Batman but a literal dark night rising or being lifted from the city itself.
 
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I don't want to watch "Bruce Wayne's Day Off"

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I wouldn't be surprised to see Nolan actually using Bane to injure Batman bad enough, like in Knightfall, to put him out of commission for a bit and allow the people of Gotham to rise up and take back their city letting Wayne come full circle from Begins and finally being able to hang up the cape because he inspired a city to the point of no longer needing him. Maybe the title isn't just for Batman but a literal dark night rising or being lifted from the city itself.

Gotham will always need Batman. Period. In the universe Nolan created, there is still The Joker. As long as he's alive, there will always be a Batman.

I would hope by now that the Bruce Wayne/Batman character understands that there is no more "symbol of hope", melodramatic, "let the citizens of Gotham take up the torch" crap and that he'll need to be Batman for the rest of his life. Not only because he feels he has to do it, but also because he needs to.

"But I'm not sure the day will come when you will no longer need Batman."

I also want to see more emphasis on the death of his parents and for the film to delve deeper in Wayne/Batman's psyche, ala Batman Begins. After The Dark Knight I felt the character was past the point of feeling he could "hang up the cape". Batman obsessively fights crime, that's who the character is and what he does.

No matter how good the film is, if he gives up, dies, or the city takes up the "mantle" so to speak, this movie will suck hard. It won't do that though, I'm sure it's called The Dark Knight Rises for a reason.
 
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How can you not view films as a trilogy and enjoy Fellowship? If that was a stand alone, id be the worst movie ever made :lol Horrible ending....
 
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People think of Hathaway from the Princess Diaries or Get Smart but don't look at the rest of her resume, she has shown she can act, hell she was Oscar buzzing just last year and at least looks the part, so that I'm okay with. I'm more concerned about Bane and the way that Nolan will try to normalize and chuck into realism a villain who is on "toxin" and very much outside of his world to begin with.

Only thing i can think of, about her, is that article from 'behinde'. Bonus points :yess:

For all you know about Nolan's Bane is that he could end up being a junky, and totally dependent on 'toxin'. This where the psychology comes in. we;ll see.
 
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How can you not view films as a trilogy and enjoy Fellowship? If that was a stand alone, id be the worst movie ever made :lol Horrible ending....

1.) The 9 characters are together in one cohesive narrative. (Don't have to follow 4-5 different stories)

2.) Moria

3.) The Breaking of the Fellowship/Amon Hen

4.) Boromir

5.) Gandalf the Grey
 
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Gotham will always need Batman. Period. In the universe Nolan created, there is still The Joker. As long as he's alive, there will always be a Batman.

I would hope by now that the Bruce Wayne/Batman character understands that there is no more "symbol of hope", melodramatic, "let the citizens of Gotham take up the torch" crap and that he'll need to be Batman for the rest of his life. Not only because he feels he has to do it, but also because he needs to.

"But I'm not sure the day will come when you will no longer need Batman."

I also want to see more emphasis on the death of his parents and for the film to delve deeper in Wayne/Batman's psyche, ala Batman Begins. After The Dark Knight I felt the character was past the point of feeling he could "hang up the cape". Batman obsessively fights crime, that's who the character is and what he does.

In Nolan's world the Joker and Scarecrow are in prison, Ra's and Two-Face are dead and his entire purpose established in Begins was to inspire the city. So I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility that Nolan closes his films with a sense of mission accomplished. The symbolism of rebuilding Wayne manor and the city returning to what it was like when Thomas was alive...there is going to be some closure since Nolan has said this will be his last, so that's how I'd like to see it.
 
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I just want to see how Batman will deal with all the snow that's falling this year in Gotham, will he fight the sanitation dept for not plowing the streets fast enough because of a union slow down. :dunno

Will he take matters into his own hands and install a plow and salt spreader onto the batmobile and plow the streets himself in a fit of psychotic rage :dunno

Can't wait for TDKR :rock
 
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In Nolan's world the Joker and Scarecrow are in prison, Ra's and Two-Face are dead and his entire purpose established in Begins was to inspire the city. So I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility that Nolan closes his films with a sense of mission accomplished. The symbolism of rebuilding Wayne manor and the city returning to what it was like when Thomas was alive...there is going to be some closure since Nolan has said this will be his last, so that's how I'd like to see it.

That would be a very different direction to go and I think it could make for a great movie. Batman with a definite beginning and ending, Gotham as a city that isn't beyond hope. I don't know that it's necessarily what I want to see, but it has appeal and I don't think I would be opposed to it.
 
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In Nolan's world the Joker and Scarecrow are in prison, Ra's and Two-Face are dead and his entire purpose established in Begins was to inspire the city. So I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility that Nolan closes his films with a sense of mission accomplished. The symbolism of rebuilding Wayne manor and the city returning to what it was like when Thomas was alive...there is going to be some closure since Nolan has said this will be his last, so that's how I'd like to see it.

Yeah, but look what inspiring the city led to? Hatred for Batman, increase in threats, new escalated freak jobs etc.

I see what you mean though, that's definitely a possibility that I could see happening. Especially with all the emphasis on "hope", "learning to pick yourself up" and things getting worse before they get better. One could argue that these films are more about Gotham City than Batman himself.

I don't know though, I've always thought of Batman needing crime, like it was a compulsion for him to fight it. If the city can fix and clean itself up, Batman is useless. If Batman is useless, Bruce Wayne has no reason to exist.

That's alot better than having a happy, hope filled ending in my opinion.
 
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I don't know though, I've always thought of Batman needing crime, like it was a compulsion for him to fight it. If the city can fix and clean itself up, Batman is useless. If Batman is useless, Bruce Wayne has no reason to exist.

:exactly:

This is why Bruce is in a prison camp at the ass end of the world in the first film. If Superman cleaned up Gotham tomorrow Batman would go back into self-destruct mode.
 
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Actually, as someone pointed out to me earlier because I forgot too, Bruce was in the prison because he was trying to infiltrate a group who was stealing Wayne Tech merchandise. I think it was TVs.
 
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Well he still traveled the world because of his pain and frustration.
 
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Yea he traveled to find himself. Which he did lol
 
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