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[IrishJedi]

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The next films will be another reboot?

Yes. After TDKR, the franchise will be "reinvented" again. Different Batman universe, different actors, etc. This next film ends Nolan's trilogy rather definitively.

I just think it's interesting that he and Emma Thomas are staying on with the franchise after TDKR and will be a part of shaping the reboot.

 

[CelticPredator]

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Couldnt think of a better idea. Then we can have a new Joker!

 

[IrishJedi]

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I think there are 2 major elements at play...

1) Nolan wants a solid trilogy that stands alone and separate and has a definitive beginning, middle and end.

and...

2) Warner Bros/DC wants to take a page out of Marvel's playbook and create a shared movie universe between the major Justice League players and their stand-alone films.

Hence reboot after TDKR.

The only lingering question now is... does THE MAN OF STEEL fall under this new umbrella of a shared DC film universe? I imagine it will, and Henry Cavill will also be Supes in the first Justice League film in 2013. But perhaps only WB and Nolan know for sure at this point. But you'd have to think Zack would be consulted on that point, since his film would essentially "kick off" this new shared film world for DC the way IRON MAN did for Marvel's. Unless that would be GREEN LANTERN. But then that seems separate right now. Hmm...

 

[Darthrazz]

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I'd love to see a new Batman that takes place on the 1940's , old school style.

 

[IrishJedi]

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I'd love to see a new Batman that takes place on the 1940's , old school style.

That would be cool, but I don't see it happening anytime soon.

 

[Kamandi]

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I think it's interesting that they've already announced there will be another Batman film after this, BUT that "The Dark Knight Rises" (still hoping for a title change, by the way) will definitely be the last Batman film directed by Nolan and starring Bale. But that's not the interesting part... it's that Nolan will be producing the future Bats films, even though it will be another reboot and separate from his own trilogy.

I missed that announcement. Where and when was that?

 

[Sachiel]

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https://herocomplex.latimes.com/201...ights-on-team-up-film-and-reinventing-batman/

 

[Kamandi]

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Cool. Thank you.

I'm down for a JLA film as long as Superman and Batman are there. Otherwise don't bother.

 

[Russell1982]

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I really dont like the idea of a JLA film but purely because im not a fan, and i always preferred batman to be just batman, with his own people and such and not part of this big team of superheroes. I dont even like when superman appears in batman comics/graphic novels. I prefer them to stay seperate.

As for the future bat-films, i'm actually happy for them to start again after the nonal trilogy, just dont do another origin story. Start with something at the start of batman's career, the way Burtons Batman did, and go from there. But then i'd like to see an ongoing series of films. Not just one or two, or a trilogy, or a constant change of actors/directors/design crew etc. I wanna see an actor do the role well and come back every couple of years for another, and have the characters progress.

 

[Agent0028]

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All these damn reboots annoy me. I don't get why people feel the need to do reboots of comic movies all the time. Why can't they just do like the Bond franchise. Can you imagine if every new Bond actor started out with a new origin story?

That they are going to put all the movies into one universe should be cool. I'm not a big DC fan, but I'll probably go see the movies.

 

[The Mike]

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The only lingering question now is... does THE MAN OF STEEL fall under this new umbrella of a shared DC film universe? I imagine it will, and Henry Cavill will also be Supes in the first Justice League film in 2013. But perhaps only WB and Nolan know for sure at this point. But you'd have to think Zack would be consulted on that point, since his film would essentially "kick off" this new shared film world for DC the way IRON MAN did for Marvel's. Unless that would be GREEN LANTERN. But then that seems separate right now. Hmm...

1. According to the DC bigwigs the Green Lantern is touted as Earth's first Superhero. So he would be the first step in a JLA movie.

2. According to Nolan's original interviews about the Superman film and what he and Goyer had planned was to keep Superman in a vacuum, keeping him separate from the DCU AND from Batman. Which means that there is a longshot that Superman from the Nolanverse would be included within a JLA movie.

3. All industry insiders are predicting that Nolan will go 3 with Superman alongside Snyder opening and closing his films like Batman.

4. Snyder hasn't been consulted. Campbell hasn't been consulted. Literally Marvel had the directors even visit each other's sets before an Avengers film had been fully planned and Whedon was in constant contact with Favreau, contact with ol' Kenny and contact with Joe. Whedon knows what those films will be, knows what he is looking at and hopefully how to incorporate. Which means that a JLA film would either ignore Superman and GL altogether and create it's own continuity or it isn't even a blip on the horizon and they aren't worried about it yet, my bet is on the latter.

 

[The Mike]

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All these damn reboots annoy me. I don't get why people feel the need to do reboots of comic movies all the time.

We may be reading into the word "reinvent" too far. They need to make Batman accessible to a JLA movie. That would be a departure from the Nolanverse and need some sort of re-establishing. The next director would need to establish that the rest of the DCU exists after Nolan spent three films ignoring it. That is a definite reinvention.

I wouldn't cast the reboot die just yet. I'm imagining that WB would do a bit more to continue the momentum but still leave their options open. Unless Nolan kills off Bruce at the end of TDKR, I would say a reboot isn't certain.

 

[the Doctor]

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https://www.absoluteradio.co.uk/player/8726/Gary-Oldman--The-Dark-Knight-Rises-interview.html

 

[sfa]

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I really dont like the idea of a JLA film but purely because im not a fan, and i always preferred batman to be just batman, with his own people and such and not part of this big team of superheroes. I dont even like when superman appears in batman comics/graphic novels. I prefer them to stay seperate.

I completely agree with everything you say here. I prefer a Batman that exists only within his own world and mythos - and idealy one where other superheroes don't exist.

I feel as though WB are just looking to do a JLA film because it's in vogue at the moment - but history has proven that Batman works better alone, especially on film!

As for re-booting future Batman movies, I can understand if it's purely that Nolan wants his movies to stand alone in their own continuity.
I wouldn't have an issue with that since they're worthy of it.
It's a shame we can't get a Bond-esque longevity out of Batman on film though....
I do kinda think it would be nice if future directors got the chance to do their own Batman trilogies and have them all contained within their respective continuities.
I just hope they're not re-booting for the sake of it or purely to integrate a 'team-spirit, daylight venturing, space travelling' Batman into the JLA.
Or worse yet, a 'Twilight, emo, day-glo costume 20-something' Batman whose main focus is romance between the capes!

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

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1. According to the DC bigwigs the Green Lantern is touted as Earth's first Superhero. So he would be the first step in a JLA movie.

2. According to Nolan's original interviews about the Superman film and what he and Goyer had planned was to keep Superman in a vacuum, keeping him separate from the DCU AND from Batman. Which means that there is a longshot that Superman from the Nolanverse would be included within a JLA movie.

3. All industry insiders are predicting that Nolan will go 3 with Superman alongside Snyder opening and closing his films like Batman.

4. Snyder hasn't been consulted. Campbell hasn't been consulted. Literally Marvel had the directors even visit each other's sets before an Avengers film had been fully planned and Whedon was in constant contact with Favreau, contact with ol' Kenny and contact with Joe. Whedon knows what those films will be, knows what he is looking at and hopefully how to incorporate. Which means that a JLA film would either ignore Superman and GL altogether and create it's own continuity or it isn't even a blip on the horizon and they aren't worried about it yet, my bet is on the latter.

you can't have a JLA movie without superman, batman and green lantern. leaving them out would be a lame move

 

[Agent0028]

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I would like to see a Green Arrow movie and have him part of JLA.

 

[Darthrazz]

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I guess I'm Ok with JLA movie, as long as it doesn't turn into the Superfriends.

 

[Kamandi]

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Green Lantern will need a re-invent for the JLA because the Ryan Reynolds movie looks like crap.

Batman and Superman can be one-off versions in a JLA film. It's no big deal. When DC puts out their animated films fans don't obsess about how they do or don't connect. Even Superman Returns had a soft continuity to the Donner films, picking and choosing what to honor and ignore.

They could sidestep the whole concern and do it all as a big CG film. No actors aside from voices. I re-watched The Incredibles recently and you could do a great JLA film that way with less cartoony character designs.

If DC wants a good JLA film the one thing they MUST do is have Bruce Timm involved. If I see him as a producer I know it's going to be alright.

 

[Agent0028]

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Animated superhero movies are really great. It is definitely something I would go see.

 

[Russell1982]

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I completely agree with everything you say here. I prefer a Batman that exists only within his own world and mythos - and idealy one where other superheroes don't exist.

I feel as though WB are just looking to do a JLA film because it's in vogue at the moment - but history has proven that Batman works better alone, especially on film!

As for re-booting future Batman movies, I can understand if it's purely that Nolan wants his movies to stand alone in their own continuity.
I wouldn't have an issue with that since they're worthy of it.
It's a shame we can't get a Bond-esque longevity out of Batman on film though....
I do kinda think it would be nice if future directors got the chance to do their own Batman trilogies and have them all contained within their respective continuities.
I just hope they're not re-booting for the sake of it or purely to integrate a 'team-spirit, daylight venturing, space travelling' Batman into the JLA.
Or worse yet, a 'Twilight, emo, day-glo costume 20-something' Batman whose main focus is romance between the capes!

Yeah, the Bond-esque thing is what i was thinking. Find an actor thats willing to commit to the project and come back to make multiple films. And they could take some key elements from the main comics history and work it in but around an original story, so its not just rehashing the comics on screen. Maybe start with Hugo Strange as the main villain with Rupeer Thorne as the big cheese in gotham, and as the movies go on work in the various other villains. Have Harvey Dent in two or three films before he becomes Two-Face, to really get people invested in the character before he falls. I just think it'd be a great opportunity to really have a definitive series of Batman films.

And yeah, i never liked Batman working with other superheroes or anything, i just dont think he fits with them. A. because he's such a darker character and B. because he doesnt have any super powers, he just doesnt fit. To me anyway, i know a lot of people have no problem with it and thats cool. To each his own. I never even liked Robin until Tim Drake, but i loved the whole character of Tim, how he came to work with Batman, how he started working with him, even the updated costume. Works much better than the old Grayson and Todd outfits.

Wow, what a rant.