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[Devil_666]

Re: Batman/Dark Knight 3rd Film

I doubt.. a lesser known bad guy could carry the film alone. So we'd definately need a more known bad guy as the main villian.

Not really.. if the film focuses on Batman like the first movie. That's why imo Ra's al Ghul and Scarecrow were picked for the villains, because neither overshadowed Batman. Imagine BB with The Joker.

If the third film is set on continuing with the story line from TDK with Batman being a fugitive, they can't have a villain that'll overshadow Batman. So a minor, lesser known villain would work.

 

[cr`]

Re: Batman/Dark Knight 3rd Film

I actually quite like the idea of Joker being a Hannibal type character in this though. It would at least continue to develop Batman's relationship with him.

exactly. nolan is never one to keep loose ends. he brought back scarecrow in TDK just to show us his fate, no doubt he'll bring joker back in the next film. joker n batman is two sides of the same coin. it's the yin and the yang. ignoring joker entirely especially after what happened in movie 2 would be a grave mistake.

of course, to just repeat the story in film 2 would be redundant. change the dynamic(joker in padded cell pulling the strings, while batman on the out battling another villain), and we'll have a very different movie, but just as entertaining. think silence of the lamb. only this time, hannibal is not on clarice's side.

True, but it's purely personal opinion on my part. Ie, how so many people are applauding sam worthington's performance in avatar. I can't stand it, the fact that he can't hold a properly decent yank accent for more than 3 seconds is horrendous, and it just isnt believable. An actor is supposed to make the audience believe what they are doing is unquestionably authentic. But does he pass off as an ex marine with an Aussie accent every 3 seconds? In my book, nope, it's amateurish, and brings down no matter however decent an actual acting performance is given. I dunno just my 2c.
Btw dont get me wrong cr, i LOVE marion cottillard, great actress, just nowhere near catwoman material and flawless generic american accents in my book, not YET anyway.

worthington's accent in avatar is easy to be reasoned out. the film is set in the future, so for all we know most aussies have migrated to america. but really, who's to say that you have to be an american to join the marine? and who's to say that catwoman has to be a 'real' american in nolan's world as well?

 

[YoNoSe]

Re: Batman/Dark Knight 3rd Film

frank miller is a brit.

From the beautiful British countryside of Olney, Maryland.

 

[cr`]

Re: Batman/Dark Knight 3rd Film

i stand corrected. read somewhere once about miller being british and had since thought of him being so without first double checking for fact. miller is the single most badass influence in making batman what he is today, so scratch my previous post about the brits only credit.

thanks for the correction.

 

[Cap'n Cook]

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I think Nolan is smart enough to not implement a robin into his Gotham.

He is. Has already stated a whiles back that Robin is still in a crib somewhere in this Batman universe.

I love Johnny Depp as an actor, but I just can't see him in the Nolan universe. Even in his darker roles, his style just doesn't seem the right fit for the types of villains in Nolan's films.

Completely agree. I also would not want any sort of nod to Superman in the next film.

Re the Joker recasting. If he has to be recast, give Levitt a try. Personally I don't see the need for further Joker involvement in the 3rd film, but perhaps a shot of him, or a shadow cast on his cell, woth some unused dialougue or just some laughter as Batman is walking through the cells of Arkham.

Also, no new suit please. Bats now has a fine suit and there is no need for an upgrade/change.

 

[chalkyYT]

Re: Batman/Dark Knight 3rd Film

Also, no new suit please. Bats now has a fine suit and there is no need for an upgrade/change.

not even a nipple upgrade?

he will need a new batmobile tho and hopefully the batcave will be in the new film (i imagine a batmobile should be anyway). i guess that all depends on how much time has past in gotham since tdk but to see batmans final/full set up would be a great way to round off the trilogy nicely

 

[MaulFan]

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They HAVE to have the Batcave, this should be Nolan's final Batman film, so everything that he started in Begins and put in limbo for TDK should be tied up in this movie. Completion of Wayne Manor, construction of the Batcave and the redemption of Batman.

 

[The Mike]

Re: Batman/Dark Knight 3rd Film

the penguin was born that way

Wrong. That is a Tim Burton creation to make his sequel more "Burtony". Cobblepot was bullied as a child for his short stature, obesity, and beak-like nose. Several stories relate that he was forced as a child to always carry an umbrella by his over-protective mother, due to his father dying of pneumonia after being drenched in a downpour. He is an outcast in his rich, high society family; their rejection drives him to become a criminal. The Penguin received his alias from a childhood taunt, levelled by bullies who teased him because of his grotesque appearance and love of birds. He wears a tuxedo to show his sense of style nothing more. The Penguin would be a fantastic villain for the realistic Nolanverse the thing is that people have the Burton explanations in their heads instead of the actual comic book canon and it doesn't help that for a time DC would change their comics to match the movies when they were popular. Of course like everything else it gets changed back.

 

[MaulFan]

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I believe Batman TAS also followed Burton's model for Penguin. He was eccentric, but I loved Burgess Meredith as Penguin.

 

[Batfreak]

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heres my TDK video i just made. i added some music from to the chase scene if anyone wants to check it out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GH8tvC9W_M

 

[Batfreak]

Re: Batman/Dark Knight 3rd Film

and as for the "burton" stuff, i loved his version of penguin the best. creative, odd, creepy, and downright evil. thats why i tend to love tim burtons films, always very inventive (although his last few films were not that great). i dont think they can really top what burton did with the penguin. alot of comics even copied his penguin, like dark victory and a few others borrowed the "flipper" hands and fur coats and such. tim burtons batman films will always be my favorite, but i do appreciate what nolan is trying to do. i just dont think burtons penguin will ever be topped.

 

[DarthNeil]

Re: Batman/Dark Knight 3rd Film

and as for the "burton" stuff, i loved his version of penguin the best. creative, odd, creepy, and downright evil. thats why i tend to love tim burtons films, always very inventive (although his last few films were not that great). i dont think they can really top what burton did with the penguin. alot of comics even copied his penguin, like dark victory and a few others borrowed the "flipper" hands and fur coats and such. tim burtons batman films will always be my favorite, but i do appreciate what nolan is trying to do. i just dont think burtons penguin will ever be topped.

People said the same thing about Nicholson's Joker.

 

[MaulFan]

Re: Batman/Dark Knight 3rd Film

I'd wager Nicholson's Joker and even Devito's Penguin can't be topped by anyone trying to do those characters in the exact same way, but, Nolan doesn't do his characters like Burton, so there is no competition. You can say I like Ledger or Nicholson Joker better, but, it's a preference for interpretation, they're so differently crafted you can never really say that one did it better than the other, they'd have to both attempt the exact same interpretation to see who was more successful at it.

I really like Bale as Batman, but the Batman Keaton portrayed was also crafted quite differently, I wouldn't say Bale's better at it than Keaton, I just like the Bale Batman better in terms of interpretation.

 

[DarthNeil]

Re: Batman/Dark Knight 3rd Film

I wouldn't mind Philip Seymour Hoffman in a Nolan Batman movie in the role of the Penguin (mob boss).

 

[MaulFan]

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Never know who'll show up in Nolan Batman, even though it was a smaller screen time part, I was surprised to see Eric Roberts in TDK, not a bad choice, just surprised as I hadn't heard of him doing much in the past few years, but I think it shows Nolan will seek out who's best for his vision, no matter where they fall in Hollywood.

 

[Cap'n Cook]

Re: Batman/Dark Knight 3rd Film

I believe Batman TAS also followed Burton's model for Penguin. He was eccentric, but I loved Burgess Meredith as Penguin.

Always loved that representation too.

"Waaaauuuuu! Waaaaauh! Waaaaauh!"

 

[MaulFan]

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He was just a great actor, his portrayal of Mickey was as integral to the heart of the Rocky films as Stallone.

 

[blakus939]

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He's a wwwwwreckin machine lol
The proper comic explanation of penguin actually sounds like it would be awesome nolanverse wise, but i believe he has stated no penguin in his movies. And please, no PSH

 

[quadcent]

Re: Batman/Dark Knight 3rd Film

please god no robin, that's all i care about.

 

[The Mike]

Re: Batman/Dark Knight 3rd Film

He's a wwwwwreckin machine lol
The proper comic explanation of penguin actually sounds like it would be awesome nolanverse wise, but i believe he has stated no penguin in his movies. And please, no PSH

I believe he was referring to the Burton idea of the Penguin. I guarantee you that he isn't above using a villain used in any previous Bat film but that he'll only consider them if they can be given a realistic take.