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Anybody else hoping the Emily Blunt rumors are true?
Anybody else hoping the Emily Blunt rumors are true?
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He has to choose wisely to keep the relatively "real world" feel that he has so carefully created for his films. I can think of a ton of Batman villains that would not work in a Nolan movie, and not very many that would.
Although it could be made to work, I kind of hope that he doesn't use Catwoman in the third film. (Or Penguin--who probably couldn't be made to work.).
He has to choose wisely to keep the relatively "real world" feel that he has so carefully created for his films. I can think of a ton of Batman villains that would not work in a Nolan movie, and not very many that would.
Although it could be made to work, I kind of hope that he doesn't use Catwoman in the third film. (Or Penguin--who probably couldn't be made to work.).
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what rumors? whats the skinny girl!?!
Anybody else hoping the Emily Blunt rumors are true?
what rumors? whats the skinny girl!?!
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If it is actual footage that didn't make the cut, (highly unlikely), that's a hell of a lot of unused material for Nolan.
If it is actual footage that didn't make the cut, (highly unlikely), that's a hell of a lot of unused material for Nolan.
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Some of it could just be alternate takes of footage that did make it into the movie.
Some of it could just be alternate takes of footage that did make it into the movie.
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There's rumors they offered her the role of Selina Kyle/Catwoman.
There's rumors they offered her the role of Selina Kyle/Catwoman.
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The 31 mins on iTunes is just features off the bluray, like the prologue, Joker's theme etc. Fail. The bluray reeks of lack of Ledger.
The 31 mins on iTunes is just features off the bluray, like the prologue, Joker's theme etc. Fail. The bluray reeks of lack of Ledger.
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damn......
thanks Johnny. well at least we now know the 31mins is just a studio fan boy shake down. But this only makes me raise the extra content bar that much higher. when the ultra delux dvd/blue ray get released I don't give a sh*!!1t if its nothing more than Ledger blowing his nose or eating a muffin in between takes.......IT BETTER BE IN THERE!!!!
damn......
thanks Johnny. well at least we now know the 31mins is just a studio fan boy shake down. But this only makes me raise the extra content bar that much higher. when the ultra delux dvd/blue ray get released I don't give a sh*!!1t if its nothing more than Ledger blowing his nose or eating a muffin in between takes.......IT BETTER BE IN THERE!!!!
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Penguin not workable? Really? I think any of the main villians from the Adam West show would be workable in Nolan's universe. Joker, Penguin, Catwoman, Riddler, etc. Penguin isn't always a freak like the Burton version. And I don't think an umbrella with a sword or a one-shot gun would be that unrealistic. I'm sure the Mythbusters could rig one up even.
I do feel Black Mask would be a great choice as a villian. Maybe not as the 'main' villian, but at least as the Mob's villian in this film. He would be the example of how the mob has changed and been affected by Batman. Now they too are resorting to masks and gimicks.
Penguin not workable? Really? I think any of the main villians from the Adam West show would be workable in Nolan's universe. Joker, Penguin, Catwoman, Riddler, etc. Penguin isn't always a freak like the Burton version. And I don't think an umbrella with a sword or a one-shot gun would be that unrealistic. I'm sure the Mythbusters could rig one up even.
I do feel Black Mask would be a great choice as a villian. Maybe not as the 'main' villian, but at least as the Mob's villian in this film. He would be the example of how the mob has changed and been affected by Batman. Now they too are resorting to masks and gimicks.
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Penguin would be easier to fit into the Nolan-verse than Riddler, since he could just be a portly gangster. Riddler has to use riddles for some purpose or another, which is inherently goofy. To work in the Nolan-verse, I think Riddler would have to be pretty significantly different from the comic/cartoon versions. Different name, different MO. Just a smart guy who likes to create puzzles for Batman to solve or something.
Penguin would be easier to fit into the Nolan-verse than Riddler, since he could just be a portly gangster. Riddler has to use riddles for some purpose or another, which is inherently goofy. To work in the Nolan-verse, I think Riddler would have to be pretty significantly different from the comic/cartoon versions. Different name, different MO. Just a smart guy who likes to create puzzles for Batman to solve or something.
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I think both the penguin and riddler would work well in Nolanland. I mean how long did you picture Nocholson's Joker when the topic was brought up? Then Ledger comes along (In Nolanland) and makes believers out of everyone. I really think either character will work and work well. Its the film maker that brings the yay or nay. Just picture the riddler even darker than Ledger's Joker ........... more twisted and clever.
I think both the penguin and riddler would work well in Nolanland. I mean how long did you picture Nocholson's Joker when the topic was brought up? Then Ledger comes along (In Nolanland) and makes believers out of everyone. I really think either character will work and work well. Its the film maker that brings the yay or nay. Just picture the riddler even darker than Ledger's Joker ........... more twisted and clever.
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I actually thought Joker could work, because he's a psychopath. Riddler. . .uses riddles. In that sense, a nut-job wearing clown makeup seems more feasible in a "realistic" Batman story. Maybe Nolan can pull it off (and Egg-Head while he's at it), but Riddler is the one popular Batman villain that I have a difficult time imagining in a Nolan film.
I actually thought Joker could work, because he's a psychopath. Riddler. . .uses riddles. In that sense, a nut-job wearing clown makeup seems more feasible in a "realistic" Batman story. Maybe Nolan can pull it off (and Egg-Head while he's at it), but Riddler is the one popular Batman villain that I have a difficult time imagining in a Nolan film.
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I know this is FAR off but did you like Jeremy Irons in Die Hard 3? Now i'm not saying that his character would fit in to Nolans Batman films but it could make for a very entertaining wild goose chase of a film. Solving puzzles that hold great consequence. Kinda like taking the entire city of Chicag ....... um I mean Gotham hostage again. Fear tactics and what not. If done I would make the character less involved (with the actual events) and more of a mystery to his whereabouts.
I know this is FAR off but did you like Jeremy Irons in Die Hard 3? Now i'm not saying that his character would fit in to Nolans Batman films but it could make for a very entertaining wild goose chase of a film. Solving puzzles that hold great consequence. Kinda like taking the entire city of Chicag ....... um I mean Gotham hostage again. Fear tactics and what not. If done I would make the character less involved (with the actual events) and more of a mystery to his whereabouts.
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Yeah, that's sort of what I'm thinking he would have to be. Though a bit less cheesy than Irons in DH 3
Just a smart guy who enjoys creating complex puzzles and problems that Batman has to solve (though that in itself seems lazy and predictable for a Nolan character). But I think the use of riddles would have to be minimized. And he would need a different name.
Yeah, that's sort of what I'm thinking he would have to be. Though a bit less cheesy than Irons in DH 3
Just a smart guy who enjoys creating complex puzzles and problems that Batman has to solve (though that in itself seems lazy and predictable for a Nolan character). But I think the use of riddles would have to be minimized. And he would need a different name.
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So, completely different character altogether?
I'm not really into the idea of Riddler being the villain. Black Mask would be good. Talia would be even better. However it goes, I actually don't think a single main villain can carry the next film. It needs more. Joker is really the only stand alone villain in Gotham.
So, completely different character altogether?
I'm not really into the idea of Riddler being the villain. Black Mask would be good. Talia would be even better. However it goes, I actually don't think a single main villain can carry the next film. It needs more. Joker is really the only stand alone villain in Gotham.
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I think the Riddler would work in Nolan's universe. In much the same way that the Joker went from Romero's clowning buffoon to Ledger's anarchistic self-mutilating psychopath, the Riddler can change from the Gorshin and Carrey portrayals into something more akin to the Zodiac Killer or even "John Doe" from Seven. Make him a truly dark and threatening force, and his "riddles"/clues can take a cue from Seven and really showcase Batman's detective abilities--the final element from the comics that has yet to be truly showcased (Dark Knight did this in a more limited manner).
I think the Riddler would work in Nolan's universe. In much the same way that the Joker went from Romero's clowning buffoon to Ledger's anarchistic self-mutilating psychopath, the Riddler can change from the Gorshin and Carrey portrayals into something more akin to the Zodiac Killer or even "John Doe" from Seven. Make him a truly dark and threatening force, and his "riddles"/clues can take a cue from Seven and really showcase Batman's detective abilities--the final element from the comics that has yet to be truly showcased (Dark Knight did this in a more limited manner).
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Nolan could use a guy who acts like the old Riddler, and just treat him as disturbed with a wacky riddle obsession. But who could take this kind of character seriously in a "realistic" Batman-verse? How could he provide a serious threat? To do that, you most likely have to create a character that is not Riddler, IMO. I'll be the first to admit it if Nolan proves me wrong, though.
Pretty much. That's why I don't think it would work. He would have to be so different as to not be recognizable.So, completely different character altogether?
The problem is, the Riddler was, in revisionist Batman history, a guy with some major psychological problems. But he was never a sociopath like the Joker. He isn't a serial killer, or a sadistic torturer. He's a guy who enjoys using riddles to befuddle Batman. If you make him a serial killer or a mass murderer of some kind, then you really aren't doing Riddler. Maybe more recent Batman comics have changed this about the character, but I doubt it.
Nolan could use a guy who acts like the old Riddler, and just treat him as disturbed with a wacky riddle obsession. But who could take this kind of character seriously in a "realistic" Batman-verse? How could he provide a serious threat? To do that, you most likely have to create a character that is not Riddler, IMO. I'll be the first to admit it if Nolan proves me wrong, though.
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Although my examples seemed to suggest this, I didn't mean the Riddler would actually be a serial killer (although the Jim Carrey version did kill his Wayne Tech boss...). I merely meant that his serious psychological problems could be portrayed as off-kilter and with similar intensity as someone like Kevin Spacey's "John Doe".
Riddler could be someone who knows the truth about Harvey Dent and put Batman through a series of increasingly trying tests under the threat of exposing Dent's actions as Two-Face. Since Batman knows that'll undo Harvey's crusade, he's forced to participate.
But after seeing Ra's, Scarecrow, and especially Joker, I have complete faith in whatever Nolan chooses to do and with whatever character(s) with which he fulfills his vision.
Although my examples seemed to suggest this, I didn't mean the Riddler would actually be a serial killer (although the Jim Carrey version did kill his Wayne Tech boss...). I merely meant that his serious psychological problems could be portrayed as off-kilter and with similar intensity as someone like Kevin Spacey's "John Doe".
Riddler could be someone who knows the truth about Harvey Dent and put Batman through a series of increasingly trying tests under the threat of exposing Dent's actions as Two-Face. Since Batman knows that'll undo Harvey's crusade, he's forced to participate.
But after seeing Ra's, Scarecrow, and especially Joker, I have complete faith in whatever Nolan chooses to do and with whatever character(s) with which he fulfills his vision.
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Exactly. After seeing what Nolan has done there's no doubt that whoever he brings in will work. The dude knows what he's doing, he's proved that.
Exactly. After seeing what Nolan has done there's no doubt that whoever he brings in will work. The dude knows what he's doing, he's proved that.
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This is true, but part of being so good is his knowing what not to do.
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