The Dark Knight Rises ***USE SPOILER TAGS***

[Deckard]

Re: Batman/Dark Knight 3rd Film

I'd like to see the Riddler sort of being contracted by the Mob, particularly Black Mask, although Riddler should in reality be playing them. As was pointed out Wayne and Sionis could also be going at it on the buissness front.

Catwoman would be great, there needs to be a love interest and again she has history with Sionis. Would be awesome to see her blow his jaw off.

Hugo Strange would also be a welcome addition, as Bruce could talk to him for counseling about Rachel's death and he could slowly begin to figure out Wayne is Batman. Would love to see him played by Ben Kingsley.

Oh and Harvey Bullock leading a special taskforce to hunt down Batman for the police.

I'm sure whatever Nolan has planned is the right course for the character though.

 

[blakus939]

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Agreed, man I like the kid, but he's goofy funny to me, he's never been able to act on the edge of a nail like someone such as Heath has. Just mo

 

[SUPREMEQUEEN]

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This is a deleted scene from a movie called Latter Days (side note if your having trouble reconciling with your sexual orientation with your religion this is the movie to watch), but more to the point this was the first time I ever layed eyes on the actor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IM96tT0_vUs

His character was so wholesome that its always been hard for me to wrap my head around his vilians. I still don't buy his incarnation of cobra Commander.

 

[ShadowX81]

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Catwoman would be great, there needs to be a love interest .

Why does there need to be a love intrest?

 

[Cap'n Cook]

Re: Batman/Dark Knight 3rd Film

That was kind of a given, even after TDK Nolan said No Joker in the next one because of Heath, He has been on record before about it, he is just reiterating it. The fanboys want another Joker, he doesn't and am glad he won't although if they reboot it'll be recasted.

Well it was the first confirmation of it I had heard/read, so that was why I posted it.

Was happy to see it confirmed.

 

[Ktjn]

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Although if you had to recast him, Joseph Gordon-Levitt looks a LOT like Heath.

Theres several actors who "look" like him. But I am not sure I would have him as the riddler?

I was thinking "Dexter" could make for a nice Riddler.

 

[Cap'n Cook]

Re: Batman/Dark Knight 3rd Film

I was thinking "Dexter" could make for a nice Riddler.

A fictional character playing another fictional character? Strange.

 

[Buttmunch]

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honestly, I would LOVE to see a Mr. Freeze in Nolan's universe, as he's my absolute favorite Batman villian. I know this is unrealistic, but who knows.

Like all the villians, BtAS really nailed him:
"Think of it, Batman. To never again walk on a summer's day with a hot wind in your face, and a warm hand to hold. Ooooohhh yes, I'd kill for that." - Mr. Freeze

Sorry, but Nolan has ONLY confirmed that Mr. Freeze will NOT be the villian in it.

 

[Deckard]

Re: Batman/Dark Knight 3rd Film

Why does there need to be a love intrest?

Because Nolan stated this movie will end/wrap up Bruce's story as a trilogy. In other words as I take it, Nolan will not be back for a part 4. Therefore he should IMO anyway, be able to get over Rachel by falling in love with a differant woman, most desirably someone whos just like him which will help to validate him and his alter identity, especially in the sort of crisis he is currently in storywise. By the end of this film he needs to be emotionally strong as he is physically, leave us with a somewhat healed Batman ready to go out and face all the villains we can imagine w/o being as reckless as hes getting in TDK because he feels helpless in love.

 

[Voorhees27]

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[Deckard]

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You ol sailor you.

 

[Seditionary]

Re: Batman/Dark Knight 3rd Film

Because Nolan stated this movie will end/wrap up Bruce's story as a trilogy. In other words as I take it, Nolan will not be back for a part 4. Therefore he should IMO anyway, be able to get over Rachel by falling in love with a differant woman, most desirably someone whos just like him which will help to validate him and his alter identity, especially in the sort of crisis he is currently in storywise. By the end of this film he needs to be emotionally strong as he is physically, leave us with a somewhat healed Batman ready to go out and face all the villains we can imagine w/o being as reckless as hes getting in TDK because he feels helpless in love.

I strongly disagree with this. Bruce will get over rachel just as well as he has gotten over lost loved ones in the comics...like he has jason todd being murdered or even his parents. The point is that batman is a necessary and unevitable force that bruce wayne cannot control. Therefore, Bruce wayne is more batman than he is bruce wayne.

"Helpless in love" is, in my understanding, completely unreasonable for batman as a character. The fact that bruce wayne identifies with himself as batman, and all the vigilant activity he does as the batman, fills the void he has for the lost loved ones he has. Catwoman, batwoman, all these characters throughout history have always been a temptation or a trial for bruce/batman to show that his connection and dedication is to his goals and to gotham city. In this way he is as strong mentally as he is physically. He's dedicated completely to his crime fighting. And this is because of this void, and pain. In the end there is nothing strong about being emotionally attached or vulnerable for the character.

 

[Devil_666]

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If you look as Ras Al Ghul as the main villain in Batman Begins I would say that Nolan disagrees with you.

Not really. Not to jump in to whatever you two were discussing (because I'll be honest I didn't thoroughly read all the posts) but the first movie's villains were picked for a reason: BB was about Batman/Bruce Wayne. The last thing it needed was a villain/set of villains that would overshadow that. The villains were secondary.

Now compare that to TDK where the villains (The Joker and Two-Face) take center stage. If THOSE were the villains in BB it would've been a problem. Hell TDK even opens with a scene featuring The Joker, not Batman.

I think the third film will return to Batman being the focus so it doesn't really matter who the villain/villains are. And with The Joker out of the picture (Batman's BIGGEST foe) I don't expect any other villain to take center stage like the clown did in TDK.

 

[SUPREMEQUEEN]

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good point.

 

[MaulFan]

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I think the third film will return to Batman being the focus so it doesn't really matter who the villain/villains are. And with The Joker out of the picture (Batman's BIGGEST foe) I don't expect any other villain to take center stage like the clown did in TDK.

That's my hope, I really liked the Batman/Wayne focus of Begins, and for all that was good about TDK, it really went a bit too far away from that and almost forgot about that part of the story and put more emphasis on the Joker and Dent, you almost could take Batman out of the equation. It works, I loved TDK, but I'm also eager for another film like Begins and I'm hoping the 3rd act of Nolan's series will be just that, especially as I think it will and should deal with some deep things relative to the character.

 

[The Mike]

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Nolan has pretty much set up Batman 3 to be a redemption styled story, whichever villain sets that up will be gone with despite public awareness. D666 you pretty much summed up my point in a different way. Ras didn't have to be picked to go with BB, my point is that he was obscure to the general populus but Nolan loved him because he fit his angle. The original assertion of a reality check was that the villain has to be well known, my argument is that Nolan will focus on whomever can tell his story and could care less about knowns or unknowns and Ras was a perfect example of that. To some extent the Scarecrow isn't one of the better known villains outside of the comic readers...

 

[SUPREMEQUEEN]

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Hold on a second! I think some of you might be missing the real point as to why Nolan chose Ras for BB. I'm no comic vet but isn't it in Bruce's history mythos that he studies with Ras as part of becoming Batman?? If that's the case then an obscure villain like Ras makes perfect sense for the purposes of a reboot.

But! Now that that reboot has successfully been obtained, there is now no logical reason to use an obscure villain.

 

[Devil_666]

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D666 you pretty much summed up my point in a different way.

Yeah like I said, I didn't thoroughly read over everything. I kinda just posted.

Hold on a second! I think some of you might be missing the real point as to why Nolan chose Ras for BB. I'm no comic vet but isn't it in Bruce's history mythos that he studies with Ras as part of becoming Batman??

I don't read comics but even I can tell you: NO. That was done strictly for the movie.

 

[SUPREMEQUEEN]

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Yeah like I said, I didn't thoroughly read over everything. I kinda just posted.



I don't read comics but even I can tell you: NO. That was done strictly for the movie.

Mmmm, no no. If memory serves me correct I do believe their are a couple of eps from Batman animated series where it clearly spell out Bat & Ras AND his daughter have history.

 

[cerealkeller]

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They have history, but Batman WAS Batman before he even met Ra's in the comics or animated series. In the book "The Man Who Fell" it clearly states he did some studying with a man named "Ducard" who taught him about fighting I believe. Ra's had no part of Bruce Waynes actual training before he bacame Batman.