The Dark Knight Rises ***USE SPOILER TAGS***

[lambo944]

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B is for my wife once a month

 

[jye4ever]

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8 year gap explained

https://herocomplex.latimes.com/201...christopher-nolan-opens-up-about-bane-choice/

 

[DiFabio]

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Less than 12 hours to go before some prologue goodness . . .

 

[lambo944]

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Will the prologue only be shown on the 13nth? or will they show it in front of every showing of mi4 in imax?

 

[thenammagazine]

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Will the prologue only be shown on the 13nth? or will they show it in front of every showing of mi4 in imax?

6 pages back.

 

[DiFabio]

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Will the prologue only be shown on the 13th?

Nolan and Co. set aside a date exclusively for me to see the Prologue on the 13th, sorry.

 

[lambo944]

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Nolan and Co. set aside a date exclusively for me to see the Prologue on the 13th, sorry.

Nolan showed me all the movie's raw footage.

 

[YoNoSe]

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Nolan showed me all the movie's raw footage.

What you guys do behind closed doors is your business!

 

[DiFabio]

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Nolan showed me all the movie's raw footage.

I bet he did.

 

[jye4ever]

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Don't make Lambo whip out his secret weapon.

What is it you ask.

Why, only the most powful bad azz lolz pimp cat known in interweb existenze.

 

[Maglor]

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Batman has never truly died in the comics and he is not going to die in this film. I don't care how much control you death dealers think Nolan has been granted he hasn't been granted enough to be the first person to ever kill Batman. Blank check doesn't correlate with story it correlates with production of the film.

Does it make sense from a logical point of view? No

Does it make sense in the story arc? No

Does it make sense with Nolan's approach to this series? No

Does it make business sense? No

Does it make sense with the title of the film? No

Etc. Etc. Etc.

Opinion. Opinion. Opinion.

Does it make sense from a logical point of view? No. Perhaps

Does it make sense in the story arc? No Don't see why not

Does it make sense with Nolan's approach to this series? No A key element of his approach has been to add a sense of realism, where is the realism if you go in to a film about someone who is essentially a wildly driven, violent, possibly crazy billionaire, knowing that he's going to win/save the day/avoid dying in the end? There's no sense of danger left. I think with Bane what Nolan wants is to introduce a very real sense of physical danger to Batman, to the point where he could actually die. Whether or not that happens who knows but the point is I think Nolan at least wants the audience to go into this with sense of doubt over whether Batman will come out alive or not

Does it make business sense? No Why not? I don't see how the film's box office will be impacted. Plus humans tend to have a fascination with death, I could equally argue that it DOES make business sense, but i think it will be neautral

Does it make sense with the title of the film? No Like i've said before, it IS compatible with the title if you think of it metaphorically

Also opinion, but one I happen to agree with.

 

[DiFabio]

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Nolan ain't gonna kill Batman. Nuff said. This time next year when it's out on home video, we'll be laughing at that very notion.



*marks calendar down*

 

[Maglor]

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Nolan ain't gonna kill Batman. Nuff said. This time next year when it's out on home video, we'll be laughing at that very notion.



*marks calendar down*

You're missing the point. I agree that he probably wont die. But if I go into the theater "knowing" that he wont die the film will be diminished. If there is a real sense of danger with a very real feeling that he could die the movie will be much more powerful.

 

[jye4ever]

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Mag wins the interweb

I has agree with Mags paws down.

 

[ZaCHw117]

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You're missing the point. I agree that he probably wont die. But if I go into the theater "knowing" that he wont die the film will be diminished. If there is a real sense of danger with a very real feeling that he could die the movie will be much more powerful.

I agree with most of this.

 

[DiFabio]

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Mag wins the interweb

I has agree with Mags paws down.

Hold it right there, brother.

But if I go into the theater "knowing" that he wont die the film will be diminished.

Then you must be brainwashed by the film's advertising so far with it's claims of "epic conclusions" and "ending legends". Did you expect Batman to die in TDK? No. Did you know he was going to live? Yes. Was the impact of the film diminished? Nope.

If it makes you feel better, go into TDKR expecting Batman to die, nobody will stop you.

The threat and sense of danger should come from Bane's plans for Gotham, the repercussions of Batman and Gordon's actions at the end of TDK, and so on. Not the whole cliched, "teh trilogy is about to end, OMG, who is gonna die!?!" This isn't Harry Potter, this is THE BATMAN.

The character of Batman is so much more than some selfless martyr, I think TDKR is going to show that. I expect them to delve deep into both persona of Bruce Wayne and Batman as they've hinted to "going back to Begins", not killing him. Will there be a risk that he could die? Sure, but that danger was prevalent in the last two films too (along with having his identity revealed).

Did it happen? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

 

[Devil_666]

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wheres devil at?

 

[Ven]

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hahahahahahhahahahh^ perfect!


I know, its been a hard process... but i've made my decision and fully commit to batman!

 

[DiFabio]

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See, there's the ending. He doesn't look dead to me.

 

[Sachiel]

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Hero Complex article with Christopher Nolan

“I tend not to be too emotional on the set, I find that doesn’t help me do my job,” the writer-director said between bites. “But you definitely get a little lump in your throat thinking that, ‘OK, this is going to be the last time we’re going to be doing this.’ It’s been quite a journey. Hopefully, reflecting that journey — by all of us who made the films — in the three films together will make it so they have a real span to them, some real heft.”

[working on Batman] “It’s terrific, to have people that interested in something. It reminds you that it is a real honor to work on something that means so much to people,” Nolan said. “I’d love to be able to claim that I invented the whole thing and that’s why they’re interested. I did not. I’ve been given a very precious thing to do my best with, to look after and not to let people down. There’s a certain amount of fear that comes with it and intimidation but it’s also a great privilege. [As for the fans], they want it to be great, they want to go enjoy it and they’re fascinated by it. You know, there’s always controversy regarding things that people will disagree with but hopefully they appreciate the effort of trying to make something good.”

[opening sequence] “We had a lot of fun on it,” Nolan said. “It was a tricky sequence to shoot but a lot of very talented people worked very hard on it. And I’m thrilled with the result. We shot it in Scotland. We braved the weather — it rains all the time there, a terrible place to do an aerial sequence, which is why no one has sort of done it before. You usually wind up in the desert or something for very practical reasons. But it really came off. We got very lucky with the weather and a lot of good planning went into it. I think it had a very unique look.”

[Bane] “I didn’t know him very well,” Nolan said. “David Goyer got me a bunch of stuff on him and we looked into him. I only knew him by name, I wasn’t familiar with his back story. He’s a very cool character. And getting an actor like Tom to take it on, you know you’re going to get something very special. Tom is somebody who really knows how to put character into every gesture, every aspect of his physicality in the way that great actors can. He’s a very, very physical actor. He transforms himself and it’s there in every movement. He’s not afraid to look at a character from the outside as well as the inside so there’s a deep psychological branch to the character but also a very, very specific awareness of how he’s going to use his body and his appearance to express that character too. Christian is like that too, very much.”

[more Bane] “With Bane, the physicality is the thing,” Nolan said. “With a good villain you need an archetype, you know, you need the extreme of some type of villainy. The Joker is obviously a particular archetype of diabolical, chaotic anarchy and has a devilish sense of humor. Bane, to me, is something we haven’t dealt with in the films. We wanted to do something very different in this film. He’s a primarily physical villain, he’s a classic movie monster in a way — but with a terrific brain. I think he’s a fascinating character. I think people are going to get a kick out of what we’ve done with him.”

As for moving the action ahead eight years, Nolan said that it was a way to give true gravity to the events that were portrayed at the end of “The Dark Knight,” when Batman essentially took the blame for the crimes of Harvey Dent and became a fugitive from justice instead of a tacitly approved vigilante.

“It will make a lot more sense to people when they see the film,” Nolan said of the leap forward. “But it’s not a great mystery — it’s the jumping-off point for the film — but it’s hard for me to articulate it. I think the mood at the beginning of the film will make a lot of sense. If I had to express it thematically, I think what we’re saying is that for Batman and Commissioner Gordon, there’s a big sacrifice, a big compromise, at the end of the ‘The Dark Knight’ and for that to mean something, that sacrifice has to work and Gotham has to get better in a sense. They have to achieve something for the ending of that film — and the feeling at the end of that film — to have validity. Their sacrifice has to have meaning and it takes time to establish that and to show that, and that’s the primary reason we did that. It’s a time period that is not so far ahead that we would have to do crazy makeup or anything — which I think would be distracting — but it gave them something to get their teeth into, particularly Christian in terms of [portraying] this guy who has been frozen in this moment in time with nowhere to go. He really has done an incredible job figuring out how to characterize that and express that.”

[leaving Gotham] “It was pretty emotional as we would finish these characters and say goodbye to Alfred for the last time and say goodbye to Commissioner Gordon and eventually, with Christian, fairly close to the end, saying goodbye to Batman … it was a big deal,” Nolan said. “And with these newer characters too, finishing with Anne and all these guys. It was quite touching, I must say.”