The Dark Knight Rises ***USE SPOILER TAGS***

[jye4ever]

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Lucky US buggers get to see it tonight. I have another 24 hours of lolcatz to find until then

Only thing you will be submitting are lolz catz

 

[DiFabio]

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Lucky US buggers get to see it tonight. I have another 24 hours of lolcatz to find until then

Don't come online after 10PM (my time). Imma spoil it!


Hopefully WB gives out some swag. God knows I need more Batman junk.

 

[Maglor]

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Maybe they fight over what B is for?

They both sound like cookie monsters so yeah, theory passed

That's stereotyping!

Batman is more Herry Monster.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWj1Uu7LutE

That's quality comedy right there!

 

[DiFabio]

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Simple solution. When the movie comes out and Batman is still alive everyone that even entertained the idea they would kill him off has to wear this as their signature until the movie is out of theaters...

"I'm one of the stupid stupidheads that actually believed Batman was going to die."

Special signature...

"I'm Maglor and I filled my head full of lies so that I could enjoy the film and I was almost smart enough to not have to wear this signature but otherwise the film would have been diminished because it had nothing else to offer."

If I'm wrong signature and Batman does die...

"_____ please, ____ ain't happenin'"

Usually Wofford gets on my ____ing nerves, but I'm liking what he's been posting these last couple of days. Good stuff, I completely agree.

If Batman/Bruce Wayne does die (which he won't), not only will I change my sig, I'll never return to this message board again.

 

[Maglor]

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Then you must be brainwashed by the film's advertising so far with it's claims of "epic conclusions" and "ending legends". Did you expect Batman to die in TDK? No. Did you know he was going to live? Yes. Was the impact of the film diminished? Nope.

That would have been retarded because this was meant to be a trilogy.

If it makes you feel better, go into TDKR expecting Batman to die, nobody will stop you.

Gee thanks.

The threat and sense of danger should come from Bane's plans for Gotham, the repercussions of Batman and Gordon's actions at the end of TDK, and so on. Not the whole cliched, "teh trilogy is about to end, OMG, who is gonna die!?!" This isn't Harry Potter, this is THE BATMAN.

So you're just ignoring the whole Bane breaks the Bat thing then?

The character of Batman is so much more than some selfless martyr, I think TDKR is going to show that. I expect them to delve deep into both persona of Bruce Wayne and Batman as they've hinted to "going back to Begins", not killing him. Will there be a risk that he could die? Sure, but that danger was prevalent in the last two films too (along with having his identity revealed).

Did it happen? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

Well if you ever find "proof" that validates your opinion, please put it in spoiler tags 'cos I don't wanna know.

 

[thenammagazine]

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I'm officially passing. Not only are there hella cosplayers already in line, but they're the ones who've been camping since Saturday. No bathroom, no shower, no thank you!

 

[Maglor]

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So you lie to yourself in order to enjoy the movie? There is not a single thing about the story that would be diminished.

Is this how you go into every movie you see? The muppets just wasn't the same because you knew Kermit was going to survive?

Point taken.


But I honestly think the comparison doesn't work here. In this particular movie Nolan wants us to not be sure going into it.

If I know for a fact that Batman wont die during a scene that Bane is beating the ____ out of Batman (perhaps for a second time) and I say, 'well obviously the can't kill off Batman, I'm gonna go get some popcorn' and I come back and I missed him dying... well I'd be pretty damn pissed.

 

[Maglor]

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I see what's he's saying for this film. And only this film. It could be all massive bull____. And it probably is.

However...there's still that chance. It's small. But it's the first time in any major hollywood superhero film we COULD feel this way.


Just be sayin.

Yep. This one is different.

Cmon man - I know you are smarter than this!
Noone went into TDK thinking Batman could die, because
1. Noone went into it truly expecting it to be Nolan/Bales final Batman film
2. It was not marketed as the 'epic conclusion' or the end of Nolan's Batman trilogy.
3. Not as important a point as 1 or 2, but still. Bane.

Also, regarding your earlier point about Nolan's films being standalone. I agree that thus far that has been his approach. But if you read his interviews and cast interviews, whatever little they have revealed about TDKR so far all seems to indicate that this is NOT a standalone film, it is the conclusion to a body of work. The film 'goes back full circle' to Begins according to Oldman and Wally. While Nolan adds that the film starts 8 yrs post TDK because they wanted to give the events at the end of TDK 'gravity' and 'space' to have context and meaning. Bruce Wayne has been frozen in time for 8 years, he's still grieving.

I'd argue TDKR is certainly not meant to be a standalone piece.



That's the only point i've been trying to make.




Regarding expecting Batman to die in TDK.. see above. Misses the point.

I also happen to believe we will see Batman live, and that we'll see a deep character study of Wayne/Batman, which possibly leads to the conclusion that Wayne does not exist anymore. It's just the Batman. But i'll be going in with an open mind to the possibility of him dying despite believing that he's likely to live

Now that may change depending on what is revealed to us by trailers and any further interviews, but I suspect they deliberately want the audience to feel the true danger and threat in this one, so i'm not expecting the trailers to give us anything on the ending

Yeah What he said.

I can't make up my mind, everyone has a good valid argument.

Looking forward to the grand prize at the end in July.

To be clear: if he lives, we all win. We all think that is the most likely ending - and a satisfying one at that. There are just some of us that think the possibility of him dying is real.

 

[Adolfo]

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I do not see him dying...no way for I'd be pissed....maybe perhaps faking his death and moving on like in the end of Frank Miller's The Dark Knight Returns Comic series...maybe...

 

[Maglor]

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Simple solution. When the movie comes out and Batman is still alive everyone that even entertained the idea they would kill him off has to wear this as their signature until the movie is out of theaters...

"I'm one of the stupid stupidheads that actually believed Batman was going to die."

Special signature...

"I'm Maglor and I filled my head full of lies so that I could enjoy the film and I was almost smart enough to not have to wear this signature but otherwise the film would have been diminished because it had nothing else to offer."

If I'm wrong signature and Batman does die...

"_____ please, ____ ain't happenin'"

Good to know I didn't go full retard.

 

[Maglor]

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I don't think anyone in this thread has said that they believe Batman WILL die in the end. Just that, it COULD happen.

Not that I've seen either.

But we're going in circles now. That's it. I submit.

Prolly a good call.

I hereby drop any desire to convince anybody to have an open mind going into TDKR.

I find the excited posts in this thread heart warming and invigorating. I haven't felt that way about a new release in a long time, but it's fun to hear people genuinely excited about this. I hope it's great guys (I think it might) and everything you imagine it to be. At the very least, I hope you all have a great time at the imax screenings tonight, after all thats what cinema is really all about, inspiring imaginations and exciting lives. Have a load of fun.

Sadly, I wont be joining you all at the IMAX, but this is indeed the most excited I have been for a movie release in a while.

 

[DiFabio]

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That would have been retarded because this was meant to be a trilogy.

Uh oh, you're one of those.

Pretty soon you'll be saying, "Nolan had this story, this concept for a trilogy in his head since 2003/2004 when they were working on Batman Begins", just like uncle George.

Nolan has stated that he works and focuses on a film one at a time. This wasn't meant to be anything. He's even stated in other interviews that he threw around ideas with his brother and Goyer about where to go next (I remember when "Two-Face was going to be in the third film and Joker would be on trial for his crimes). Things change, nothing is finite in film or storytelling. Do you not remember the uncertainty of Nolan not coming back after TDK was released? I do, many figured TDK was his last Batman film, he certainly expressed it as such. Something sparked his interest to continue and it wasn't because of some "planned story", as it was always "meant to be".

People are always looking at the big picture, i.e. "EPIC TRILOGY BOXED DVD SETS" when the focus should be on an individual story itself. TDKR will be it's own film much like Begins and TDK were their own, self contained stories. That's what the most successful stories have been and that's what I think Nolan is going to give us.

So you're just ignoring the whole Bane breaks the Bat thing then?

Nope. Isn't it obvious that Bane is going to crush Batman and later on Batman will come back to return the favor? If Knightfall is indeed partly inspiration for this story and my memory is correct, than why would Bane kill Batman? That's not breaking him.

Losing everything and being in pain is much worse than dying.

I'm officially passing. Not only are there hella cosplayers already in line, but they're the ones who've been camping since Saturday. No bathroom, no shower, no thank you!

Pics or didn't happen. I drove past my theater today and there was nobody around.

 

[thenammagazine]

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Pics or didn't happen. I drove past my theater today and there was nobody around.

If I'm not driving 3hrs to attend a 7min prologue, why the ____ would I drive that much just for pics?

 

[DiFabio]

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I don't think anyone in this thread has said that they believe Batman WILL die in the end. Just that, it COULD happen.

Yes and I think we understand that. Anything COULD happen so why do people get their panties in a bunch when a few people say it WON'T happen?

It goes both ways doesn't it?

Are we clear? Sure, Batman could die, yadda, yadda, yadda, but I feel strongly that he won't. It's a moot point this "could" nonsense. Anything COULD happen*, we acknowledge that, we're just saying one thing in particular WON'T.









*see Batman as a transvestite above

 

[Ambrosoli]

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Lucky US buggers get to see it tonight. I have another 24 hours of lolcatz to find until then

Then, you are the lucky one too! I'm from Argentina and I still don't know if we will see it on our local imax!!!! For now, NO DARK KNIGHT RISES PROLOGUE in Argentina

 

[jye4ever]

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I don't see many arguments if IM, Cap, Thor or Hulk will die in the Avengers.

Didn't Thanos break Hulk's back in one of the comics

 

[intothevoid]

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That's because we all know Marvel wants to do Avengers 2, Avengers 3, Hulk 2, Hulk 3, Iron Man 3, 4. 5? Captain America, 2, 3, Thor 2, 3

Ad nauseum

So they will never kill any of them, at least not until they have milked them dry

 

[wofford29]

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I don't think anyone in this thread has said that they believe Batman WILL die in the end. Just that, it COULD happen.

But we're going in circles now. That's it. I submit.

Never said anyone did. That would be full blown rhetard. I've been talking about just having the thought gestating in the back of your head as being borderline institutional.

 

[wofford29]

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Usually Wofford gets on my ____ing nerves, but I'm liking what he's been posting these last couple of days. Good stuff, I completely agree.

If Batman/Bruce Wayne does die (which he won't), not only will I change my sig, I'll never return to this message board again.

Don't try and buddy up to me slut.

 

[jye4ever]

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That's because we all know Marvel wants to do Avengers 2, Avengers 3, Hulk 2, Hulk 3, Iron Man 3, 4. 5? Captain America, 2, 3, Thor 2, 3

Ad nauseum

So they will never kill any of them, at least not until they have milked them dry

I still can't believe a high budget Avengers movie is coming out in 4 months, someone pinch me

But w/o coming off as a Nolan Sheep, there's something about his Batman series that really gets me pumped.

TDKR definately has got me Bat ____ excited.

Nam is coming