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I also really enjoyed Iron Man. I think it was really good at being what it was trying to be, just a fun, solid superhero flick. The Avengers from what I can gather is going to be the ultimate version of that sort of film, relentless action, plenty of drama, and just pure blockbuster entertainment (at least that's what i'm expecting to see).

I think the Nolan movies aim to be a bit more than that, they can almost be described as art movies in the guise of a summer blockbuster. They make you think and that's what I guess really draws me to them. I hope TDKR can live up to that.

I agree with everything you just said. Avengers looks like a blast with Iron Man, Hulk (especially Hulk :yess:) and the rest having fun and nothing too serious. Nolan's Batman aims for something more. Some hate that about them. For me, it's exactly why I love Nolan and his take on the material.
 
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Showing only their movies would be a bad business move. (And still against the law) If a studio theater chain (like pacific) doesn't have to buy the rights to show the Avengers (as it is Disney owned) but also is making off money from another film they had to buy the rights to, like TDKR. They are making money off the showings off it as well.

Most of the time theaters buy films in percentage of box office intake. If the Pacific theaters chain purchased TDKR for say 20% (completely unrealistic :lol)box office intake, then they would be making money off it and The Avengers.

Well, your first made it sound like the studios owned all the theaters and were making a killing. The ones you listed are in Cali and one chain is out of business, so you're only right on parts of the country. There is no way they could own every theater chain in the US.

Finally a sensible youtube commentary about TDKR vs Avengers

Indeed.
 
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What's Jye doing at 2:03?

Huh, wait...what. :lol

I also really enjoyed Iron Man. I think it was really good at being what it was trying to be, just a fun, solid superhero flick. The Avengers from what I can gather is going to be the ultimate version of that sort of film, relentless action, plenty of drama, and just pure blockbuster entertainment (at least that's what i'm expecting to see).

I think the Nolan movies aim to be a bit more than that, they can almost be described as art movies in the guise of a summer blockbuster. They make you think and that's what I guess really draws me to them. I hope TDKR can live up to that.

I hope Nolan directs a Marvel movie one day.
 
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There's a Fandango survey - surely a highly scientific one - that ranks audience anticipation for the big summer movies. They split it up between men and women, and here's what they found:

Men’s Picks for Most Anticipated Summer Movie:
1.___________ “The Avengers” 31%
2.___________ “The Dark Knight Rises” 23%
3.___________ “The Bourne Legacy” 14%
4.___________ “Men in Black 3” 8%
5.___________ “Prometheus” 7%

Women’s Picks for Most Anticipated Summer Movie:
1.___________ “Snow White and the Huntsman” 22%
2.___________ “The Avengers” 16%
3.___________ “Men in Black 3” 13%
4.___________ “The Dark Knight Rises” 10%
5.___________ “Dark Shadows” 8%

Women seem more fragmented than men (31% of their most anticipated films lie outside of the top five, and thus go unreported). Also, the Snow White and the Huntsman score feels like a bit of system gaming from Twilight fans.

But for the boy nerdiness stuff, let's look at The Avengers versus The Dark Knight Rises. The Avengers blows TDKR away for both men and women. Some of this, surely, comes from the fact that we're entering the height of buzz and marketing for The Avengers while The Dark Knight Rises hangs patiently back. But is there more to it?

I've seen The Avengers and haven't seen The Dark Knight Rises, but judging by Christopher Nolan's previous films - especially the Batman films - I can get a sense of what to expect. The Avengers is big, colorful, fun spectacle. The Dark Knight Rises promises to be darker, more serious and more of a downer*. Is this part of the divide, part of what people are responding to? Are people attracted to the inherently more optimistic vision of The Avengers over the grim vision of The Dark Knight Rises?

It's hard to say what moviegoers respond to in times like these. The world's in a tough place, and America's in an especially tough place. A much worse place than we were when The Dark Knight hit in 2008. That film, which was very much about the state of the world at that exact moment - chaos all around, heroes forced to take excessive measures to maintain safety - tapped into the zeitgeist. But now, as the world has continued to darken and keeps getting scarier, are audiences in the mood for more darkness on screen? The Dark Knight Rises looks to be presciently tapping into the 1% vs the 99% vibe (and seemingly coming down on the side of the 1%, but whatever) but will the darkness turn off people dealing with foreclosures and unemployment?

Meanwhile The Avengers is a classic Marvel story, wherein the human foibles of the super characters threaten to derail the saving of the day, but in the end everybody gets together and gets ____ done. It's not all sunshine and roses, and the heroes fight amongst each other as much as they fight the invading
Chitauri
, but in the end it's teamwork and cooperation that saves the day. We live in an America where our government has completely fallen apart, unable to come together to accomplish the simplest goals, and the fantasy of cooperation could be exactly what audiences want to see in theaters. It also helps that The Avengers is really good, and delivers on the fun that we rarely see in our movies.

Is Batman about to get sideswiped by Captain America and company? The hardcore Mujahabatdeen remain fanatical as ever, but is the general audience more interested in something brighter, more obviously hopeful? Have we been dragged through enough mud in the real world that we're sick of the grim n' gritty? Or is the Bat biding his time, and he'll strike twice as hard as The Avengers?

* even if it ends on a hopeful note, which it surely must.
 
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Interesting article.

Those numbers/surveys are all pretty misleading, I personally have always preferred darker tales that offer a glimmer of hope.

I really believe that TDKR must end on a very optimistic note. It's right there in the title.
 
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Interesting article.

Those numbers/surveys are all pretty misleading, I personally have always preferred darker tales that offer a glimmer of hope.

I really believe that TDKR must end on a very optimistic note. It's right there in the title.

That article comes from Devin Faraci from Bad Ass Digest, he hates everything Nolan Batman although if i'm not mistaken he did enjoy Inception.

Anyways.

It's like what's so damn complicated about simply sitting back and just enjoying both movies for what they are. :dunno
 
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Take a look at the ign poll jye. You wouldn't have had to type so much wrongness.

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I didn't write those words, just copied and pasted.

But you're right, IGN pole has TDKR ahead.

I just post these stories because I know void and Nam like having stuff to read while on the toilet. :lol
 
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I didn't write those words, just copied and pasted.

But you're right, IGN pole has TDKR ahead.

I just post these stories because I know void and Nam like having stuff to read while on the toilet. :lol

I prefer your memoirs. They help put me to sleep and double as toilet paper. :lecture:lecture:lecture:exactly:
 
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I didn't write those words, just copied and pasted.

But you're right, IGN pole has TDKR ahead.

I just post these stories because I know void and Nam like having stuff to read while on the toilet. :lol

I prefer your memoirs. They help put me to sleep and double as toilet paper. :lecture:lecture:lecture:exactly:

:1-1::1-1:

I've moved up to toilet paper status. :yess:
 
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That article comes from Devin Faraci from Bad Ass Digest, he hates everything Nolan Batman although if i'm not mistaken he did enjoy Inception.

Anyways.

It's like what's so damn complicated about simply sitting back and just enjoying both movies for what they are. :dunno

Faraci? That explains it. That guy taks it up the ass with the stupid ____.
 
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Faraci? That explains it. That guy taks it up the ass with the stupid ____.

He does have a stick up his butt when it comes to Nolan/Batman, he just refuses to admit he was wrong with TDK.

That being said, his Marvel movie critiques seem to be fairly accurate.
 
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He's like Armond White, only subtract intelligence and writing skill and and a real platform.

Who. :rotfl

Is he related to Arm and Hammer, I like him.

He keeps my underwears white and fridge smelling fresh.

Oh look, a real UFO
 
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