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[Matt S]

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Dent is dead...but Two-Face could be alive... j/k

Exactly.........this is a superhero movie...nothing is as it seems

 

[jye4ever]

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I hope Batman fights the mortgage industry.

 

[Agent0028]

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I think that is a great idea so long as Two-Face is leading one mortgage company and Penguin the other with Gotham real estate stuck in between. And to bring it to a personal level for Bats Bruce got hit with a high mortgage rate when he rebuilt Wayne Manor.

 

[ironwez20]

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Judging by the title im sure the villian will be the enzyte's leading man Bob.

 

[devilof76]

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You could make an arguement like that to hell and back.

I only had to go as far as: three movies to tell a story, versus infinite comics which tell a story 30 short pages at a time, separated by a week. A reminder of the last issue is usually in order, mainly so that new readers don't have to be completely blind jumping into the story.

A simple but defining batman feature to me:
reoccurring villains.

Which would be a waste when you only have three movies. However...

"useful" in this case is a matter of perspective...the whole scene deals with drug dealers/gangs not being able to do business both because of batman and "freaks," like scarecrow. He is completely called for, "buy from someone else, assuming batman left anyone else to buy from." It's a mini scarecrow tale of him giving people bad trips because he likes to mess with people.

I agree. Forgot about that (haven't watched it in a while). It could have potentially been Italians and Russians, but Scarecrow is a better device.

 

[The Mike]

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Yeah you said it. Dent. Is. Dead.

"Dent lies at the bottom of the hole, his neck broken. DEAD" - The Dark Knight script

Pretty much. I researched it a bit after originally posting and there was an article online about Eckhart talking about how he has had discussions with Nolan and told him that he was available to the response of "You're dead as a doornail."

I doubt Nolan will be bringing him back in any capacity other than a mention.

 

[Seditionary]

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I only had to go as far as: three movies to tell a story, versus infinite comics which tell a story 30 short pages at a time, separated by a week. A reminder of the last issue is usually in order, mainly so that new readers don't have to be completely blind jumping into the story.



Which would be a waste when you only have three movies. However...



I agree. Forgot about that (haven't watched it in a while). It could have potentially been Italians and Russians, but Scarecrow is a better device.

Yeah, I see what you mean...I wasn't really talking about the continuity of comics and how they are released though, as far as scarecrow is concerned. I meant more like in the long halloween and dark victory. There are alot of villains and characters that are in there and in and out of prison and make things more difficult for batman. Dent pays them or releases them or promises something so they will help him out for the bigger picture. So you have mad hatter and scarecrow one minute, solomon grundy the next, then the joker running around also.

That's what i meant by comic book sorta thing...
It would've been pretty cool to have it like this:
batman begins=falcony is the head honcho who is taken down as a result of some bigger conspiracy.

dark knight= the gangs are being squeezed out by batman so they join together. There are more and more freaks showing up that they don't want to work with, and when they finally do it screws them up more.

Dark knight rises= the freaks join together because batman has been squeezing them out. He is now an outlaw, so he has more pressure both from the freaks and the cops. and a bunch of people that are in between.

As far as two face and joker is concerned...they obviously won't be returning on screen. so that idea is debunk.

 

[The Ringer]

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Harvey Dent's Ghost has been confirmed.

 

[Sachiel]

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RUMOR: Tom Hardy as Hugo Strange?

 

[Seditionary]

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lol rofl lmao

 

[intothevoid]

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pardon the pun but Hugo Strange would really be a strange choice... really a nothing character IMO

 

[die]

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Let me just throw this out there...by the end of The Dark Knight, it looks as though it's set up that Gotham is led to believe that Dent was still a good guy and Batman killed him, right? Wasn't that what the whole thing was about? To take limitations off of Batman, it was mentioned many times in the film as bad guys knew Batman "had rules".

Wouldn't bringing Dent back kinda ruin that concept completely since his death is what is fueling the "Dark Knight"?


I'm hoping Batman comes back more wicked looking and striking fear into criminals...I'm hoping that's where they're headed with it/ To me, that's why Catwoman would be an interesting character, she could easily consider Batman to be the badguy. Then they could team-up at the end to fight the inmates at Arkham

 

[intothevoid]

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Let me just throw this out there...by the end of The Dark Knight, it looks as though it's set up that Gotham is led to believe that Dent was still a good guy and Batman killed him, right? Wasn't that what the whole thing was about? To take limitations off of Batman, it was mentioned many times in the film as bad guys knew Batman "had rules".

Wouldn't bringing Dent back kinda ruin that concept completely since his death is what is fueling the "Dark Knight"?

Agreed.

But Dent could return purely as Two Face, someone the public does not recognize, until such point where it is revealed what really happened to Dent (joker caused his burnt face, killed rachel etc.), which redeems Batman

Nevertheless, i'm 99% sure Two Face/Dent are dead.

 

[die]

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Yeah Void, I agree with that, I could see how something like that could possibly be done and it work.

I think this movie should be Batman's chance to really shine, regardless. I found myself glued to everything Joker did in TDK, for me he really overshadowed Batman. I'd definitely like to see some changes to the costume, darker and more sinister.

There's no way they can top TDK's Joker, might as well look to different ways of making the movie great.

 

[Kamandi]

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Whether Dent is dead or not they must follow up on those themes. Bruce's whole rational in the first film was to be a symbol. A symbol is incorruptible. When Harvey shows up Bruce decides he's the better symbol. Bruce engages in a cover up so Dent can be remembered as a JFK type. The people of Gotham now think Batman is a cop killer and Dent is innocent.

The underworld may finally fear Batman, but the public isn't going to like him very much either.

I also wonder how long Gordon will keep the faith or will he eventually be persuaded to view Batman as a problem to be dealt with?

 

[die]

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The underworld may finally fear Batman, but the public isn't going to like him very much either.

I also wonder how long Gordon will keep the faith or will he eventually be persuaded to view Batman as a problem to be dealt with?

I like the prospect of that. I'm sure Gordon would be under tremendous pressure from his higher-ups as well as the public, so at the very least, there would be that to deal with. Perhaps if Batman decides to push the envelope a bit, he and Gordon could end up at odds.

There's also the issue of him dealing with Rachael's death, I could see how he might have some anger management issues from that and how it could come into play.


Just NO PENGUIN though.

 

[wofford29]

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I really can't believe people are still tossing Two Face around as a possibility.

 

[Seditionary]

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I gave up on dent coming back a long time ago, although initially I didn't really take the ending to be a definite dead-end.

I really have no idea what they'll do.

You still have ramirez as a loose end though. she's a dirty cop, I wonder what they'll do to keep her mouth shut.

bottom line, some of these things need to explored further.

 

[MaulFan]

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Ramirez wasn't so much dirty as manipulated. I consider someone like Flass who purposely sides with the criminals to be dirty, but someone having their family jeopardized is more a victim. I see her standing behind Gordon.

 

[Seditionary]

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I think Dirty cop=not by the book

Well, regardless of whether she needed money for hospital bills for her mother and even though she might be a "good person"...she's still a dirty cop. The reasoning behind doing something illegal or immoral does not change that she is doing this "dirty" deed.

Nobody forced her to do it...she took the easy way.
she did sell out rachel/harvey for money.