Re: The Dark Knight Rises
*cracks knuckles.
Source Deadline.com https://www.deadline.com/2010/11/chris-nolan-lines-up-actresses-for-batfilm/
Chris Nolan is lining up actresses he'll meet for two female lead roles in The Dark Knight Rises, the third installment of the Batfranchise which Warner Bros has dated release on July 20, 2012. I'm told one of the roles is a love interest for Christian Bale's Bruce Wayne, and the other is a villain. The actresses are: Rachel Weisz, Naomi Watts, Blake Lively, Natalie Portman, Anne Hathaway and Keira Knightley. Nolan is keeping the roles under wraps, just the way that he did when he drafted his Inception star Tom Hardy to come aboard to likely play a villain. Deadline broke that story October 13. I'm still not sure what the role is and I believe Hardy took the job without knowing or reading a script that's still being tweaked.
The thing is that a female role doesn't automatically include Catwoman but Nolan has been pretty vocal about who won't be in it, he said outright no Penguin, no Joker, no Mr. Freeze. So since he hasn't said no Catwoman there is a chance, the thing is that the Catwoman character won't fit into the storyline they seem to be pulling from...
think its pretty safe to assume lively and portman wont be in this film... id be happy with any of the others.
Portman maybe but Lively is out I guarantee you due to her Carol Ferris role and the plans they are rumored to have for her in GL2. That makes me question the source and their list and whether they just gathered a bunch of names to throw out there but who knows....
Thing is, in Begins and TDK, I get the vibe that it's a fascade for the public, I don't feel like he ever does anything with those girls but walk around with his arms around them for show at public events.
Modern Batman has Bruce Wayne as a facade, hell in current comic continuity he even has Hush filling in for him there because they look alike. That is what they pull here but Catwoman is a perfect foil for that because Selina definitely has her persona in public as well especially if you take from the Bronze Age or even some of the modern age where he goes off to portray herself as a socialite while getting her funds from robbing the people she is hanging out with. She wouldn't be arm candy for Bruce but someone who is trying to make herself almost to Bruce Wayne level and see him as a mark more than anything else.
It's been suggested that Talia al 'Ghul might be the villain. That might be interesting to link up with the first film. I still think Harvey will return.
Harvey is a longshot but possible if Nolan wanted to go that route. Talia would be a waste especially since other than be a connection for Bats to Ras, she hasn't been too pivotal in Batman story save recently with Damian. She could be the one who brings Hugo Strange or something along those lines but it'd be a villain thrown in for villain's sake at that point.
Good thing Two-Face is dead then.
Let's not open that can of worms again
Has this been posted ?.
"When Christopher Nolan made the surprising (and welcome) revelation that The Dark Knight Rises would not be in 3D, he also made the interesting comment: “We’re looking to do something technologically that’s never been done before.” After speaking to a trusted source, we believe that “something” is to shoot the entire movie in IMAX."
https://www.collider.com/2010/11/11/the-dark-knight-rises-imax-christopher-nolan/
Love seeing that the whole thing might be in IMAX and not 3D. Definitely where I hope more films go.
I know we've alot of discussions on here about a third Batman movie ever since TDK came out...here's my take:
The death of Rachel is sure to have a lasting impact on Batman with Joker being his closest link to her. Perhaps there will be a scene where Batman goes to arkham to confront Joker in his cell and ask him some questions? Joker wouldn't need to be the main bad guy and shouldn't be the main bad guy but he needs to be present in the Batman universe as much as possible. I think Joseph Gordon Levitt could fill the part in a small role.....maybe even at the end, Batman could discover that JGL was an imposter Joker and the real Joker has escaped? (nod to the comics!)
The Joker was planned to be a part of the third film according to Goyer until Ledger's death, the Nolan brothers have completely rewritten Goyer's third arc so I guarantee you that Joker is out. Anyway you can show the long lasting impact without including a physical Joker, even in mention it gets the point across. The Joker was a catalyst and is best shown as that without viewing the character himself as the first in lines of where to go. His name on a door at Arkham in passing would be a nice nod but I don't think you need to include another actor in the role, it'll get recasted in about five years away.
I still say Catwoman could work if done right. It'd be a great time to introduce her. I also feel that Batman needs to be alot more brutal and relentless in this one after what he went through in Dark Knight. I hope he has a more wicked looking suit, moving a bit away from the hi-tech look of the last one.
Catwoman
would work except the whole idea of never being able to be together because of the Bat was inserted into Rachel's character for the most part just altered. One of the reasons why Selina and Bruce have such a history is that they are perfect for each other but refuse to give up their alternate personas and therefore are always at odds. Selina has been given a ton of reasons why that seem to change with the writer but that is the gist. It might seem repetative. As for the suit, I guarantee you they'll be change, there is money to be made there.
I think it'd be hard to make a third batman movie without any solid reference to the Joker. They even brought Scarecrow back in TDK for a few minutes. And I do understand people's concerns over Catwoman, but it can really work if they stay far from the classic campy takes on the character. Catwoman has actually become an awesome character over the years and Nolan is the man who could really take it a step further with the chracter. Even if she doesn't end up in the movie, it looks like she's sure to be a big hit in the new Batman videogame if nothing else.
Scarecrow was brought in as a nod but not needed, you could have filmed that whole scene without the character, changed the dialogue a bit and been done. Not to mention that from what we saw in BB to TDK, the progression of the Scarecrow wasn't solid. Scarecrow was the secondary to Ras, if you are looking for that kind of placement then you need to look towards Two-Face the secondary to the Joker and that is a whole other thing that is been beaten to death, so I don't really see it occurring.
Catwoman isn't a formidable enough villain to carry a movie on her own. Unlike Joker she's not going to threaten all of Gotham. She doesn't create enough jeopardy.
Catwoman would be a great villain for Bruce and Batman if done right. it would be a different movie, less intense than TDK but doable. I think IF you see Catwoman she'll be a secondary like Two-Face and Scarecrow but definitely not the main.
Lt. Essan is already known to be in the movie so it sounds like Nolan is borrowing from Year One. Catwoman did things wrong in that story but the reader could excuse. I'm going to speculate in this film she's more of the anti-hero who steps outside the law occasionally and Tom Hardy's character will be the real villain.
They've been borrowing from Year One since Batman Begins, I wouldn't put too much stock into that as a direct source. I'm sure it'll be pulled from again and Darren Aronofsky's version of Year One did have Catwoman in it but I have a feeling it'll be part of a mosaic that Nolan puts together and nothing really more than that.
