Re: The Dark Knight Rises
I think it'd be cool if Batman actually operated in other areas instead of just a snatch and grab like Lau. One thing I find funny with Superman and Batman, and I don't read comics so it may not be totally true, but the idea that these guys are major heroes, yet they only protect one city in the whole world, big freakin' whoop
I think it'd be cool if Nolan expanded Batman to be a hero to the world, focused in Gotham, but fighting great evil wherever it be.
In the comics, the heroes don't expand because the world is full of them, they don't want to step on each other's toes. Its a sign of respect more than a rule and in the team ups they always head one way or the other in another city but Bruce has told Superman to get the hell out of Gotham on more than one occassion.
I think they've managed to save the world once or twice in the comics, but it would be cool to see something that large scale in a film. That's the biggest reason why I'd want to see a JLA movie. The downside is that it would either have to be fairly long (think King Kong or and of the LOTR's), or the filmmaker would have to be insanely talented to do it well, and with concision.
Individually its rare the JLA and other teams like it have been around a while so usually they band together for something Global. It makes more sense then the idea that Hal Jordan lives in Coast City, Bruce Wayne in Gotham City, Clark Kent in Metropolis and yet only one takes on a huge Earth shattering issue.
It wouldn't take a long film especially because DC/WB has said no Justice League for a while because they want to introduce the characters first. For a long time they were sticking to the original JLA roster of Green Lantern, Aquaman, Wonder Woman, Flash and Martian Manhunter so they could keep Supes and Bats separate entities but who knows if that is the overall plan.
Johns has said that a JLA movie would only make sense if the audience already knew who the heroes were and understood they were banding together for the greater good.
You should start, because the latest Batman storyline addresses this precisely.
Which is another example of Morrison's ego getting the best of him and creating something that realistically makes no sense.
I think Superman is more of a global hero because he can move from place to place quickly. Batman can't be everywhere at once, what is he going to do, spend a week in New York, then London, Paris, Berlin, Moscow, Hong Kong, Tokyo, LA, Gotham and start all over again? Plus Batman's motivation is Gotham itself. So, I would prefer Nolan keep Batman in Gotham, with the exception of when he needs to go abroad for something that has to do with Gotham.
Batman can be where he needs to be, he has the resources its just that he doesn't feel he needs to be. He doesn't care about Metropolis or Star City or Coast City or Keystone City, he cares about Gotham. He gets involved in larger issues with the JLA because they actually effect Gotham but outside of that he doesn't really have the need to expand which was always at the root of his character.
I just feel like it belittles his accomplishments and efforts if all he does is clean up one city in the whole world. It doesn't change the entertainment of the films, it's just something that's occurred to me, he's such a beloved hero, but he only cleans up one city, the rest of the world could go to hell but Gotham'll be nice
But that is all he cares about.
I think he would move on to other cities if he ever managed to clean up Gotham for good.
He wouldn't because of the general code of the Superhero. Nolan is shortsighted but not even acknowledging that they exist, you don't have to show them but he isn't alone and so you have to remember that Metropolis in the books is close by as is Central City I believe so there is Superman and one of The Flash characters already. Not to mention that Alan Scott is based in Gotham as well.
Bruce Wayne loves Gotham. And I think his selfishness has been more than established. Other cities have their own protectors.
BINGO!
Superman isn't in the Nolan films.
Which is beyond stupid but let's not open that can of worms.
Anyways, in the films he's only left Gotham as Batman to bring a criminal back to Gotham. The other time Bruce Wayne left to find himself and brought back Batman.
That is a great way to look at it.
I think the broader Batman's scope gets, the cooler he gets. My kingdom for a Nolan Justic League movie.
Ugh no. Nolan would ruin a JLA movie. He doesn't have the vision to do it. He can't even see that one of the biggest things that Batman has is the fact he is a human amongst Gods and can hold toe to toe with them. Him existing amongst superpowered heroes and being able to best them many times over at many different things is one of the aspects sorely missing from Nolan. You can see that aspect even by his Rogue gallery and being able to beat the superpowered ones there.
How many League members are we talking though?
If most creators get their way like some at DC it'll be 5 and not include Batman and Superman. If it goes off of the WB template it'll be 7 and include most of who we saw in the JLA cartoon. Hal was replaced to make it more diverse with John and The Hawks replaced Aquaman and to that end Carter was replaced with Hawkgirl to expand the female offerings but the roster is still close to the big Seven. Which is Superman, Batman, Green Lantern, The Flash, Wonder Woman, Aquaman and Martian Manhunter. DC has been putting the silver age roster in place for a while now.
Don't think Nolan would ever do a justice league movie, especially one with Batman I'd love to see it though. Supes, Batman, WW, GL, Flash and JJ
Well. He'd never do it well.
