The Dark Knight Rises ***USE SPOILER TAGS***

[Seditionary]

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Yeah I didn't really either. I really don't think that killing him off was the only possible way to deal with the character. My biggest issue with it is that Ra's is basically killed in the first one...If the Joker could have appeared in the next one would they have tried to make the argument about batman not being able to "cross the line" or break his one rule to stop/kill the joker. He's done it twice basically...pretty weak. This guy is only fit for therapy, not death.

They could've easily set two face up as a vigilante killing the corrupt. Think dexter with a bad Miami sunburn on half his face...except targeting every and anyone who is responsible for some bad. This would be more in line with the "one bad day" thing that throws all the characters into gotham city the same way. Clashing with bruce because he obviously tries not to kill people for the most part except on a few occasions from time to time.

Besides...aaron eckhart rules.

 

[Kamandi]

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I thought he was dead but i also thought they would re-con themselves out of it. The original plan was to have Joker in pt. 3. Since that cannot happen I thought they'd bring back Harvey. They didn't. That's fine. TDK is more self-contained.

 

[Agent0028]

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Well I think it was more of Nolan wanting to have Two-Face's story as close as possible to Bruce's. The TDK story is about establishing the type of hero Batman is in Nolanverse, and what it takes to handle the villainy of Gotham. Dent was there to show what the other path would lead to, both for the audience and Bruce within the story. To clean up Gotham, you have to be a different kind of hero than Dent tried. If they were too true to the split persona and all, that parallel would be lost on people. It's a bit like Anakin and Luke Skywalker facing similar choices and making different decisions in Star Wars.

That's what I mean, changing the comic characterization gives a better movie story.

 

[MaulFan]

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That's what I mean, changing the comic characterization gives a better movie story.

But I don't think the change was because it was a better story, I think it was just a change to suit the story of Bruce. I don't think it was a choice that a different path wouldn't have been as good, it just wouldn't suit.

 

[Agent0028]

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That's what I mean, for the story of Nolan's Batman, the change supported the story better than keeping to a strict comic interpretation.

 

[MaulFan]

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I thought you meant that people wouldn't enjoy a movie based on the more comic, split personality type story.

 

[CelticPredator]

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I didnt care...he deserved to die...the prick.

 

[Agent0028]

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I thought you meant that people wouldn't enjoy a movie based on the more comic, split personality type story.

No, definitely not that, I think they could have (and wish they had) brought Two-Face back for the second one and made him the main villain. But it probably would have lessened the impact of the ending since it would be discovered Dent is alive and Batman isn't responsible foe the cop killings.

 

[MaulFan]

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I think the real problem would be that it would open 2 larger plot points for one film. If Nolan weren't making a trilogy, maybe, but with this being the last of his films, I think the sole focus should be the Bruce story again. Leaving Two-Face alive creates 2 significant paths to see where they lead, Batman's redemption, and what becomes of Harvey. While interesting, I think it would border on risky and possibly lead to a Spider-man 3 scenario.

 

[Seditionary]

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I think the real problem would be that it would open 2 larger plot points for one film. If Nolan weren't making a trilogy, maybe, but with this being the last of his films, I think the sole focus should be the Bruce story again. Leaving Two-Face alive creates 2 significant paths to see where they lead, Batman's redemption, and what becomes of Harvey. While interesting, I think it would border on risky and possibly lead to a Spider-man 3 scenario.

the movie/comic separation is that comics are pretty much endless. Characters are always gonna return or be reused or whatever.
Movies need endings.

 

[MaulFan]

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the movie/comic separation is that comics are pretty much endless. Characters are always gonna return or be reused or whatever.
Movies need endings.

Yeah, but it wouldn't be an issue if the Two-Face story were the main issue of the 3rd movie. The problem is, Nolan's storylines have been focused on the evolution of Bruce from an orphaned child to making a choice and becoming Batman, to solidifying his committment to that. With TDK, it worked to tell Bruce's story through events happening to Dent, but with the next story, I think a focus on Bruce like Begins is necessary.

It's not so much about movies in general, but rather the choices Nolan's making as a storyteller that drive what does or doesn't work. Thankfully, he's smart enough to not overload a single film with too much and cares that the story be solid. In some ways, he doesn't care about the fans and just makes a good movie. Some of these comic movie filmmakers get to caught up in fan opinions or their own fandom and reach a point where they're not sure how many more films they'll get to do and try to fit everything they haven't done yet into one movie, and that rarely works. Spider-man 3, X-Men 3.

 

[shiveringmelody]

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Did Anne Hathaway Confirm That She's Up For A Role In The Dark Knight Rises?

In an interview with Deadline, it was put to the actress that she's recently been mentioned to be in a running for a role in the highly anticipated third installment of Christopher Nolan's Batman franchise. As you can see from the following question/answer, she doesn't deny the rumour and seems to address the fact that she's competing with many other actresses (who were also revealed to be in the running when she was).

It’s going on right now as Chris Nolan gets started on a new Batman, and you’ve been mentioned as a candidate for that. Do you find yourself competing against certain actresses or any you measure yourself against?

"Of course, but that has always been the case. There is always competition...I don’t know how to answer that question, it feels too revealing, somehow."

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One can hope that she is cast and as a villain!

 

[Cap'n Cook]

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Catwoman.

 

[Kamandi]

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One can hope that she is cast and as a villain!

I'll settle for just a bad girl.

 

[Agent0028]

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I think she could be a good Catwoman...

 

[RICEaRONI]

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she would be a great catwoman

 

[Wor-Gar]

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That just doesn't feel like a Nolan choice...but I like Anne and think she'd make a good Catwoman.

 

[Deckard]

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Who says shes Catwoman or Sylina?

Talia sounds more reasonable, but Anne seems too mainstream a choice right now for Nolan.

Also what is Deadline, and wasn't Joseph Gordon Levitt in the running, and before him whoever else just had a movie come out and is mildly popular that week?

 

[hunnipot85]

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From the rumored ladies, I prefer Keira Knightley and Vera Farminga for whatever roles. None are bad though and i'd be happy with Rachel Weisz, Naomi Watts, Anne Hatthaway, etc.

 

[Seditionary]

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I could live with any of those but keira knightley. She is like a pouting butthole. I'm also not really crazy about naomi watts...she's kinda just bland to me for some reason.

I have no idea who nolan will choose if there is a talia or selina role...I'm sure it'll be no one we suspected