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I always take comments like that, good or bad with a grain of Salt.
The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug
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I always take comments like that, good or bad with a grain of Salt.
TheProcrastinator
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Josh, I am sure there's more than one piece of uniqe music in there. The problem is during the movie most of it sounded pretty much muddled together, monotoneous and intrusive to me.
BTW. did You guys noticed any big color changes in the final film? I don't know if Jackon decided to change some digital color grading right before the premiere, or was it simply a problem with the cinema I watched it at, but the movie looked much more muted in color than the trailers and promotional stills suggested.
For example, much fuss was made about the bright, blue contact lenses that Orlando Bloom was wearing in the trailers. But in the final film his eyes looked very dark, almost black. The same goes for Mirkwood forest. In the film it looked more washed out, than all the blue-tinted shots from the trailers.
BTW. did You guys noticed any big color changes in the final film? I don't know if Jackon decided to change some digital color grading right before the premiere, or was it simply a problem with the cinema I watched it at, but the movie looked much more muted in color than the trailers and promotional stills suggested.
For example, much fuss was made about the bright, blue contact lenses that Orlando Bloom was wearing in the trailers. But in the final film his eyes looked very dark, almost black. The same goes for Mirkwood forest. In the film it looked more washed out, than all the blue-tinted shots from the trailers.
That's what I was thinking. We'll looks like some people are getting a mouthful from me next time a catch up with them!
Well, we will have to totally disagree. The music once again was simply fantastic and gave even more life to an already awesome movie.
He did tone down the sharpness of the images. I believe he's on record in an interview saying that.
He did tone down the sharpness of the images. I believe he's on record in an interview saying that.
I have both of the soundtracks and I simply love them. The thing I don't think people understand is that the journey to the lonely mountain is over, hence why we didn't hear it again. This movie was all about Smaug and his fury which is why it has a dark tone to it.
Njits
Super Freak
When people say "this is the worst score of the 5 films yet" it doesn't mean the score is bad. It's still Howard Shore, it's amazing, all of it is. But compared to the rest, DOS is the weakest score of the bunch for me. But it's still a better score then most film scores today. ^^
Yeah, I don't expect we will hear it again. As you said the journey to it is over. I will be curious to see what kind of theme there might be for the Battle of Five Armies.
They found the door, opened it, Bilbo did his promised burglarizing, he found the Arkenstone and Smaug's weakness. How is that not moving the story along? They basically accomplished all that they discussed in Bilbo's house, plus their path to the Lonely Mountain has now gotten Beorn and possibly an entire elf kingdom involved in the coming battles. More advancement (with regard to the established goals of the story) happened in DOS than in TTT.
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I'm wondering......and just that.....could the reason why the score was so different was because a lot of the AUJ score was so familiar? Maybe it's to separate it a bit, or simply, allow for Oscar consideration since the last one couldn't be nominated. ?
I think I recall reading that the academy actually made a mistake in ruling or it was a mistake in interpretation of the rules. I'd have to double check.
I thought they said it was because it contained music from LotRs so it couldn't be considered original. I can't remember that far back. My brain is old.
btw.....The Hobbit won Christmas box office!
I thought they said it was because it contained music from LotRs so it couldn't be considered original. I can't remember that far back. My brain is old.
btw.....The Hobbit won Christmas box office!
That may be true. I don't recall either.
I saw! It's holding strong it looks like.
I have been let down by both films scores.. AUJ was a lot of rehash but it did have The Lonley Mt which is Killer.
It sort of Reminds me of John Williams Work on the SW PT. While that did have some good moments (duel of the fates) most of it is just meh.. Not Bad because it's Williams but nothing special at all.
The Did not make it to Lonely Mt for the first hour and 20 min or so.. There was pleanty of time to have that theme. I understand that it may not make another appearence and that is fine. It just should have in the earlier parts of the film. IMO anyways.
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Those things you listed all happen in the last 50 min of the film. I have said in my other posts that that is when the film starts to matter again... I just felt that after AUJ ended the Dwarves could have trecked to Lake Town and there would have been nothing we missed. The Story would not have been affected (for this film). The only thing that it would have affected were the Made up parts of PJ fantasy Fiction (elves).Now I realize these moments that had no impact in this film will probably have an impact in the next but as a single movie goes... there was a whole lot of nothing. Story wise anyways. Not action and spectacle wise, there was plenty of that going on here. At least for me I wanted more character moments and more story. I am really hoping that the EX helps to fix some of that for me.
As I have stated before. I really think this film should have been 2 films and not three. It is the main reason I think the majority of this film felt empty to me.
Having said that I did enjoy the last 50 min and I did enjoy some parts earlier in the film. This was just a long way from being as good as the others IMO.
You keep saying they could have gone to Lake Town and nothing would have been missed. I can assure you that it would have and it would have pissed off a lot of Tolkien fans. Those moments are actually important to the story. As someone who knows a bit about Tolkien trust me on this.
jye4ever
Broke and happy
Is that awesome song in AUJ called Misty or Lonely mountain?
I'm confused.
I'm confused.
TheProcrastinator
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I don't know if you guys also got this impression, but now few weeks after the premiere, there seems to be a noticable trend in the comments about DOS. The general consensus among those who approached Jackson's new movies as, lets say "casuals", (meaning without much excitment or sentiment, looking at them the same way they would look on any other hollywood blockbuster), is that DOS is an instant improvement over AUJ, solely becouse it packs more bang for the buck and moves at a faster pace with more spectacular things happening. But it also seems that those who count themselves among fans of PJ's vision of middle earth, are not so fast to automatically put DOS's higher amout of eye candy over AUJ slow but atmospheric and whimsical pace.
Generally AUJ seems to be much better recieved today then the last year's mass dissapointment and 65% RTT score would suggest. Especially now that people had a whole year to digest the film slowly and appreciate it at home. Basically, AUJ seems to be having a bit of a second life on BD. I think it's becouse it is very much the type of "home" movie. It has that wonderfully heartfelt, whimsical atmosphere and pacing that may seem underwhelming and mercilessly slow when viewed as a theatre attraction expecting massive entertainment and high level of bang for the buck, but really comes into its own as a wonderfull journey when you watch it at home sitting on the couch, covered by blankets, holding a cup of choclate with the freedom to stop it at any time for bathroom breaks
Generally AUJ seems to be much better recieved today then the last year's mass dissapointment and 65% RTT score would suggest. Especially now that people had a whole year to digest the film slowly and appreciate it at home. Basically, AUJ seems to be having a bit of a second life on BD. I think it's becouse it is very much the type of "home" movie. It has that wonderfully heartfelt, whimsical atmosphere and pacing that may seem underwhelming and mercilessly slow when viewed as a theatre attraction expecting massive entertainment and high level of bang for the buck, but really comes into its own as a wonderfull journey when you watch it at home sitting on the couch, covered by blankets, holding a cup of choclate with the freedom to stop it at any time for bathroom breaks
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That is why I say it should have been one movie or at most two. I know those things will probably be important down the road... But as a single film it just does not do the story justice. It takes events that mean something and makes them feel like nothing..
Again I am just saying that because PJ bloated this short little children's tale to three films it has hurt the films (well this one anyways) and the story.
Like the quote used before. " It’s entertaining, it’s engaging and it’s got thrills, but all at the expense and to the detriment of what stories, narrative and filmmaking should be about."
I don't know if you guys also got this impression, but now few weeks after the premiere, there seems to be a noticable trend in the comments about DOS. The general consensus among those who approached Jackson's new movies as, lets say "casuals", (meaning without much excitment or sentiment, looking at them the same way they would look on any other hollywood blockbuster), is that DOS is an instant improvement over AUJ, solely becouse it packs more bang for the buck and moves at a faster pace with more spectacular things happening. But it also seems that those who count themselves among fans of PJ's vision of middle earth, are not so fast to automatically put DOS's higher amout of eye candy over AUJ slow but atmospheric and whimsical pace.
Generally AUJ seems to be much better recieved today then the last year's mass dissapointment and 65% RTT score would suggest. Especially now that people had a whole year to digest the film slowly and appreciate it at home. Basically, AUJ seems to be having a bit of a second life on BD. I think it's becouse it is very much the type of "home" movie. It has that wonderfully heartfelt, whimsical atmosphere and pacing that may seem underwhelming and mercilessly slow when viewed as a theatre attraction, expecting massive entertainment and high level of bang for the buck, but really comes into its own as a wonderfull journey when you watch it at home sitting on the couch, covered by blankets, holding a cup of choclate with the freedom to stop it at any time for bathroom breaks
I agree with this. Accept for Josh's feelings of course. As he is a much bigger LOTR fan then me.
I loved AUJ when it came out and I still find it to be really good film.. Far better then the "Blockbuster" approach of DOS.
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