The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug

[The Josh]

What a snarky ****ing response. I trust what Peter Jackson said more then your eyes.

And I also trust the actual way that camera works, more then your eyes.

It wasn't but the rest if fine by me.

 

[jye4ever]

Now I want a ham sandwich.

 

[CelticPredator]

Forgot to add, it's due to the Shutter Speed. I don't know why I always forget that.

 

[The Ween]

Ween is about to give us a cgi sandwich.

I didn't have any bread so you'll have to do with a Shire sauage breakfast.....

 

[jye4ever]

those sunny side up are well positioned.

 

[The Josh]

I never did get to Dennys to try any of those meals.

 

[jye4ever]

I never did get to Dennys to try any of those meals.

You don't want the one Ween is serving.

 

[The Josh]

You don't want the one Ween is ssrving.

I'm a picky eater so I'd have to pass on that one. What else is she serving?

 

[Sachiel]

The Hobbit is supposed to be more bright and colorful.

But not fake.

I may be wrong though.

 

[The Ween]

I never did get to Dennys to try any of those meals.

You don't want the one Ween is serving.

I had the Ring Burger. It was really good!

No one wants my sausage. Well fine.

 

[Ramatuelle]

Saw the trailer.

Thranduil: looking hot as usual. That guy puts Legolas in the dust.

Hobbits, dwarves trudging around and arguing..... meh

Dragon: looks pretty interesting.

I will save my energy and catch both of the interesting ones on YouTube, eventually.

 

[ZaCHw117]

I had the Ring Burger. It was really good!

No one wants my sausage. Well fine.

wtf?


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[The Josh]

I had the Ring Burger. It was really good!

No one wants my sausage. Well fine.

That looks alright. I'd have them keep the mushrooms, lettuce, and tomato though.

 

[The Ween]

That looks alright. I'd have them keep the mushrooms, lettuce, and tomato though.

You eat like a Dwarf!

 

[The Josh]

You eat like a Dwarf!

I did relate to Ori during the scene.

 

[CelticPredator]

No veggies on my meat. Except for onions. I love em/

 

[crows]

No, it's the CGI too. Not the CGI itself mind you, it's a tool (I'm not anti-CGI, that's absurd) but the difference is how they're used. In LOTR, it was used when it needed to be (Gollum, large scale battles, Oliphants) in addition to other, non-CGI effects to make the scenes. In the Hobbit, it's used all the time for everything. It's abused.


You gave the perfect example Jye, the clone troopers. Not one of those clones was a man in a suit. They literally took Jango's head and put it on top of a character model. Shoddily I might add. The Stormtroopers from the 70s and 80s, you know those British stuntmen in suits were waaaaaay better.


Now look at the orcs and humanoid creatures in the Hobbit, pretty much the same deal. CGI, CGI, CGI. There was nothing wrong with LOTR's use of New Zealand Stuntmen (and women) in make up, armor and prosthetic. It worked beautifully. Now for the Hobbit? Most if not all are CGI creations, or worse, CGI creations done over the live performances. It's just awful.





People's eyes aren't lying to them, that's the point of all this. If there wasn't an issue, most folks would die down and keep their mouth's shut. Even if you don't know exactly what the problem is as far as the effects go (is it green screen, CGI, lighting, etc.), your eyes and brain do.

No. I'm not wrong. Just because you like it, doesn't mean i'm wrong.

The quality of the visual style has dropped to a new level with this film. It looks more like a big budget BBC production. Dr. Who or something. Everything is bright and colorful.

Doesn't make you right either. I trust my eyes and opinion more.

It hasn't dropped at all but at least from my POV.

The Hobbit is supposed to be more bright and colorful. It goes with the type of story it is.

I have to agree with a lot that Difabio and Celtic are saying.

I don't hate the Hobbit, on the contrary. I really love both LOTR and the Hobbit movie. I really love this world.

But Hobbit doesn't look as great as the LOTR movies. It just doesn't

The overuse of CGI on The Hobbit ruins it for me a little. I still love the movie but Nowhere near as much as i Love LOTR trilogy.

I know Josh loves this world a lot as well, but the CGI in Hobbit hurts the movie, not helps it.
Some scenes in the Hobbit were pretty bad. It almost looked like a videogame near the end when they were falling.

I guess the movies are being made already and there is nothing anyone can do about it, but the Hobbit is not going to be as amazing looking as the LOTR trilogy simply because of the use of CGI for everything.

 

[the Doctor]

I had the Ring Burger. It was really good!

No one wants my sausage. Well fine.

 

[The Ween]

I have to agree with a lot that Difabio and Celtic are saying.

I don't hate the Hobbit, on the contrary. I really love both LOTR and the Hobbit movie. I really love this world.

But Hobbit doesn't look as great as the LOTR movies. It just doesn't

The overuse of CGI on The Hobbit ruins it for me a little. I still love the movie but Nowhere near as much as i Love LOTR trilogy.

I know Josh loves this world a lot as well, but the CGI in Hobbit hurts the movie, not helps it.
Some scenes in the Hobbit were pretty bad. It almost looked like a videogame near the end when they were falling.

I guess the movies are being made already and there is nothing anyone can do about it, but the Hobbit is not going to be as amazing looking as the LOTR trilogy simply because of the use of CGI for everything.

Like I said before, it could simply be because of the movie centered around dwarves that so much CGI was used. And some of it, I don't know how they would've filmed it any other way, like with the Goblins. Plus LotR had a lot of darkened scenes where the CGI isn't going to stand out as much. Plus what Josh said holds true too, the world was a brighter place then.

Anyway, it doesn't really matter to me. I don't go into a movie to scrutinize it for reality. I can understand Celtic doing that in a way, but in this day and age I'm sure his experience at the movies isn't that great anymore.

Could the problems with the unions and animal rights people have anything to do with using less "live" actors and animals?

 

[crows]

Like I said before, it could simply be because of the movie centered around dwarves that so much CGI was used. And some of it, I don't know how they would've filmed it any other way, like with the Goblins. Plus LotR had a lot of darkened scenes where the CGI isn't going to stand out as much. Plus what Josh said holds true too, the world was a brighter place then.

Anyway, it doesn't really matter to me. I don't go into a movie to scrutinize it for reality. I can understand Celtic doing that in a way, but in this day and age I'm sure his experience at the movies isn't that great anymore.

Could the problems with the unions and animal rights people have anything to do with using less "live" actors and animals?

about Celtic

I don't go to the movies to examine every single shot or effect, I go to enjoy them.

The problem with the Hobbit is that my eyes are telling me what I am looking at looks really weird and not normal. The movements of the characters. The fact that there is no weight at all to them.
Like, Sometimes CGI can look amazing (like Jurassic Park) and sometimes it looks really fake and strange to the eyes.
I don't want to criticize the movie because I like it. But if they did the Lord Of the Rings movies today I bet they would have done all the creatures in CG and not real people.

I guess seeing something look fake takes me out of the movie. Takes me out of the story. Reminds me that this is a movie filmed in a movie set with green screens all around.

I never ever get that feeling from Lord of the Rings. It's like, Lord of the Rings feels like if you were watching a documentary about Middle Earth while the Hobbit felt like watchingvideo game cut scenes at times.