The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug

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Someone on TORn's message board got their copy of the new issue of Empire. I put the info I spoilers just in case anyone wants to skip this info.

Legolas will seemingily have his 'hero moments' like in the trilogy, but none are specified, Bloom was concerned about returning, but says his role makes 'sense'.
, he is slightly less worldly and more dwarf adverse. 'One of the many explorations DOS makes beneath the twee exterior of The Hobbit is to account for Legolas's subsequent departure from his homeland in Mirkwood'-that wasn't in the appendices was it?

'Yesterday Evangeline Lilly's Tauriel-a young Silvan Elf-resuscitated a dying human girl with a liquid burst of Elvish'-It notes that Lilly bought he fluency in French to the pronoucniation of Sindarin-were the two languages ever linked?

For all the special effects that will be bought to bear on The Hobbit trilogy, Jackson is still dangling actors on piano wires and constructing sets enshrouded in the own wintry patterns. 'This is his roots isn't it?' says Bloom
-Looks like TABA will be taking place in the winter

There is alot of mention of piano wires, so the matrix elves may a recurring motif!

Laketown-'Contary to the town on stilts of Tolkien's famous illustration the cramped streets are level with the waterline, giving it the dishevelled aspect of a Dickensian Venice, a labyryth of gimcracks walkways, bridges and buildings that stoop beneath the burden of the heavy roofs. Its a foogy cladestine sort of place where things skulk amongst the shadows'.
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'As the Dwarves arrive, by barrel at the waterborne human habitation withtin trading distance of Erebor, so the orcs have traked them, pursued in turn by our nimble elf, having made his entrance in the Elven Halls of Mirkwood'

'This will probably get me struck off The One Ring party list but I am enjoying deviating from the book'-Jackson.

There are further references to the orcs hunting the party in Laketown, and confirmation of more 'appendices' materil.

Mirkwood is trippy with Mushroom spores. 'The bedtime lilt of Tolkien's debut novel however charming is long gone'

'You read the books, the appendices, the letters and the interviews that Tolkien gave. Jackson observes, 'and you realise you are dramatising some of the things he was hinting at' However far they deviate from the text they are taking Tolkien with them. *Azog*

The two strands of Bilbo and Gandalf's journeys will be interweaved till the end of the film, with offshoots to legolas (not Thranduil apparently) the Master of Lakewton, and Bard's new backstory.

There is less humour in thsi film as it wasn't considered appropriate, the films will be getting more and more serious

By the end of the First act Gandalf will have a pretty good idea of who the Necromancer is-we will meet him in the film and see Cumberbatches 'mo-cap thing' come to life.

Azog is still after the company and will be joined by Bolg (though it isn't enitirely clear how he slots in)

Tauriel has big ears, and is roughyl 300 years old, much less wise and more dangerous than Legolas. She is 'chafing against Thranduil's isolationist policy.' Thranduil has a contemtp for what is going on out there. The elves won't resemble the 'fairytale creatures of the book' acoording to the articles writer.

Lee Pce looked Oberon and the Fisher King as inspiration, hikes overnight into NZ countryside to get into menidset, and says the corrupted nature of Mirkwood relects who he is. Thranduil is 3000 years old in the film-as far as I can remember this wasn't stated in the books. Thranduil has a Katana like sword, and soen't readily choose to use his force 'He has the reputation of being the greatest warrior in Middle Earth'

At least 5 orcs will pursue the dwarves into Laketown

Fathers and sons is a big theme in the film, it will examine the Bond between Throrin and Thrain in great detail, there is a flashback to his dissapearance outisde Moria, they will explore the 'complicated' issues between Legolas and Thranduil. Bolg IS the son/spawn of Azog,

'Desolation will commence somewhere familiar, but unexpected'. It will conclude with one of the 'biggest things' Jackson has ever created.

'Jackson has always felt the book lacked a definte confrontation between the dwarves and Smaug. He's rectified that. There will be bombs, inferanl artillery, and one mightily pissed off dragon. 'It gets pretty crazy'.

Is he sure he has enough left for the final film 'Oh yes, there is much to come. We have a battle with five armies' he says. 'You never know, it might be seven, eight or nine armies by the time we finish'

Reading all of that worries me, I do not like the sound of a lot of those things. He's warming to the fact that he's deviating from the source material, the smaug quote where he addresses a lack of confrontation reminds me of that ridiculous stone giants scene in AUJ. The lack of humor, and the over abuse of green screen and special effects is not something I particularly look forward to.
 
So if following like last year new trailer around Sept?

Probably around then I'd imagine.

Reading all of that worries me, I do not like the sound of a lot of those things. He's warming to the fact that he's deviating from the source material, the smaug quote where he addresses a lack of confrontation reminds me of that ridiculous stone giants scene in AUJ. The lack of humor, and the over abuse of green screen and special effects is not something I particularly look forward to.

None of that bothers me. I don't see any issue with him enjoying some of the changes. Some of them I enjoy so I can't blame him. I'm not going to get freaked out about the quote dealing with Smaug. It will probably amount to nothing at all and the Stone Giants scene didn't bother me. The book starts to get serious at this point (or serious for The Hobbit book$ so it makes sense for the movie to do so as well. I think too many get their knickers in a twist over the green screen/cgi forgetting how much was used before.
 
Bloom has finished shooting. Jackson and Bloom did this as a little joke when he was done.

[ame="https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5NGguk8VXYc"]Bloom's Goodbye[/ame]
 
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Just goes to show that they pay attention to youtube. There are some great LotR fan vids on there. I used to watch them for hours.
 
My daughter does not like Smaug's name. So she changed it...































to "Fluffypants".


The story of the Hobbit doesn't have the same power that used to for me, anymore.






:lol
 
Not really. Besides, do you want a guy in a dragon suit to play him?

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I love how the current trailer playing in the theaters makes this thing look like some theme park ride...the long walk up the cue, the water-flume portion of the ride, the big haunted castle with the dragon...even the big room with all the money (the gift shop)...is this coming to Universal Parks soon? Hobbit-The Ride!
 
I love how the current trailer playing in the theaters makes this thing look like some theme park ride...the long walk up the cue, the water-flume portion of the ride, the big haunted castle with the dragon...even the big room with all the money (the gift shop)...is this coming to Universal Parks soon? Hobbit-The Ride!

Sign me up for that ride then. This movie is going to be fantastic. :rock
 
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Sign me up for that ride then. This movie is going to be fantastic. :rock

:hi5: Couldn't agree more, just saw the trailer after finally seeing Man of Steel and I can't wait. I'll take all the Tolkien I can get before they're through. At this rate they might as well start developing the Silmarillion, maybe not likely but I can dream.
 
:hi5: Couldn't agree more, just saw the trailer after finally seeing Man of Steel and I can't wait. I'll take all the Tolkien I can get before they're through. At this rate they might as well start developing the Silmarillion, maybe not likely but I can dream.

I've watched it a few times at home and have it saved but it was damn cool seeing it before MoS. I wouldn't mind seeing the Sil done someday but Christopher Tolkien will never sell the rights, and I doubt his kids will either. I'm with ya though I love Tolkien and seeing Middle-earth on the big screen :rock.
 
I've watched it a few times at home and have it saved but it was damn cool seeing it before MoS. I wouldn't mind seeing the Sil done someday but Christopher Tolkien will never sell the rights, and I doubt his kids will either. I'm with ya though I love Tolkien and seeing Middle-earth on the big screen :rock.

Never say never. I'm sure that not all his family hates what Peter Jackson has done.

:pray:
 
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I love how the current trailer playing in the theaters makes this thing look like some theme park ride...the long walk up the cue, the water-flume portion of the ride, the big haunted castle with the dragon...even the big room with all the money (the gift shop)...is this coming to Universal Parks soon? Hobbit-The Ride!

It is really weird you say this,

Because Universal has been trying to get the rights to make a part of their park LOTR related (Rides, restaurants, stores etc)

It is a rumor that has been going around.
Universal even sent some people some questionnaires by email Asking if people would like to get a LOTR land......
 
Never say never. I'm sure that all his family hates what Peter Jackson has done.

:pray:

That's true. It could happen. I'd love it if it did. I worry how the Sil would be reverted by the general audience. It's the hardest of the books by Tolkien that I've read at this point.
 
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