The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug

[Deckard]

Except it probably won't. By the time that stuff is perfected I doubt we'd ever see it put to use on someone so "obsolete" as John Wayne by today's standards. They'd probably just end up CGIing Matt Damon so they don't have to pay the real one.

Plus I remember how "close" people were saying we were to that when that Final Fantasy movie came out like 10 years ago and look how fake that looks now.

 

[Mr. Green]

wouldn't surprise me if they have robots do the action/acting and have the actor's face over the robot. kina like avatars but up a few level.

 

[Snadinator]

Wow, that's why he's no longer in Game of Thrones? To play a video-game CGI orc in The Hobbit? Lame. He was perfect as The Mountain.

The new "Mountain" is even better.

 

[Adolfo]

wouldn't surprise me if they have robots do the action/acting and have the actor's face over the robot. kina like avatars but up a few level.

When that happens we will be dead or underground fighting skynet.

 

[Adolfo]

Except it probably won't. By the time that stuff is perfected I doubt we'd ever see it put to use on someone so "obsolete" as John Wayne by today's standards. They'd probably just end up CGIing Matt Damon so they don't have to pay the real one.

Plus I remember how "close" people were saying we were to that when that Final Fantasy movie came out like 10 years ago and look how fake that looks now.

Anybody who hates BW films and thinks those guys in the past are obsolete can stick it where the sun don't shine as far as I'm concerned. LoL. Many of those great past films should be mandatory watching. Those were true hollywood gods and goddesses. Many of our youth refuse to look at so many great pre 1960 films. God forbid they watch films with real acting and not enough action/special effects

 

[Deckard]

Yea but unfortunately Hollywood only cares about your current box office draw. Most kids these days think Bogart is something you do to a blunt.

 

[Adolfo]

Don't bogart that joint my friend. Pass it over to me

 

[The Josh]

For those who saw it, did the ring play any part in this?

It gets used by Bilbo if that's what you mean.

 

[Adolfo]

Yea but unfortunately Hollywood only cares about your current box office draw. Most kids these days think Bogart is something you do to a blunt.

Hollywood always was that way. The audiences have changed caring only about excitement levels/fantasy. It takes more for the modern crowd than the crowds of my youth. The 1000+ channels on tv and computers don't help in regards to the spoiling of our youth. With only 6 channels growing up I still found something to watch and was grateful and interested. Today being bored in 5 seconds is the new "in thing" . I still feel so bad for the Western genre. If it's not full of action or is like Django it's considered terrible/not stimulating enough by so many. Westerns have such a huge place in my heart

 

[Fritz]

I thought the design of Smaug was fantastic. Other than that, I thought there was just too much Pirates of the Caribbeaneasque action and not enough core substance. Don't get me wrong, I still enjoyed the movie and am happy for more Tolkien, but unlike the Lord of the Rings where the changes still had the Tolkien feel, the Hobbit is getting dangerously close to the edge of going too far. Also, although visually I enjoyed Tauriel, it was just too much with her story arc. I really had hoped Peter Jackson would have made changes from the more children's bookish Hobbit to the more serious Lord of the Rings but it appears he went the direction of keeping it more fun and loose.

I like the Hobbit because it's Tolkien based, but I can see myself criticizing it a lot more if it was a generic movie. That probably makes me a hypocrite, but so be it.

Bottom line is for me the Hobbit is enjoyable but the Lord of the Rings is an epic for all time!

 

[SithThundercracker]

It gets used by Bilbo if that's what you mean.

Well, actually it's a surely more disturbing and "evil" than the book, where it's just a ring for invisibility.

Spoiler

I mean when Bilbo is tempted to tell Gandalf about the ring but then decides otherwise. Or when he loses it in the forest and kills the spider yelling "It's mine!". Or simply everytime he puts his hand in the pocket!

 

[Fritz]

For those who saw it, did the ring play any part in this?

Not really, Bilbo pawns it at the beginning of the movie.

 

[hoodonit00]

I thought the design of Smaug was fantastic. Other than that, I thought there was just too much Pirates of the Caribbeaneasque action and not enough core substance. Don't get me wrong, I still enjoyed the movie and am happy for more Tolkien, but unlike the Lord of the Rings where the changes still had the Tolkien feel, the Hobbit is getting dangerously close to the edge of going too far. Also, although visually I enjoyed Tauriel, it was just too much with her story arc. I really had hoped Peter Jackson would have made changes from the more children's bookish Hobbit to the more serious Lord of the Rings but it appears he went the direction of keeping it more fun and loose.

I like the Hobbit because it's Tolkien based, but I can see myself criticizing it a lot more if it was a generic movie. That probably makes me a hypocrite, but so be it.

Bottom line is for me the Hobbit is enjoyable but the Lord of the Rings is an epic for all time!

Ugh, that is what I was afraid of. That's exactly what I found wrong with The Hobbit.

 

[The Josh]

Well, actually it's a surely more disturbing and "evil" than the book, where it's just a ring for invisibility.

Spoiler

I mean when Bilbo is tempted to tell Gandalf about the ring but then decides otherwise. Or when he loses it in the forest and kills the spider yelling "It's mine!". Or simply everytime he puts his hand in the pocket!

Spoiler

Yes, I agree you see more of the rings evil side. Though, I didn't think that was the exact question asked so I just answered it simply.

 

[The Chev]

My thoughts before I take a break from this thread till after I see it.
Lord of the Rings is a masterpiece of Modern Filmmaking. I'm going to go into DoS same way I went into AUJ, Expecting something different.

I was very disappointed by Two Towers when I first saw it. It's now probably the LotR film I watch the most. I'm curious to see how the Hobbit films are viewed in ten years.

 

[BadMoon]

I'm really excited to see this. However, I still maintain it should have been one 3 hour movie.

 

[Njits]

My thoughts before I take a break from this thread till after I see it.
Lord of the Rings is a masterpiece of Modern Filmmaking. I'm going to go into DoS same way I went into AUJ, Expecting something different.

I was very disappointed by Two Towers when I first saw it. It's now probably the LotR film I watch the most. I'm curious to see how the Hobbit films are viewed in ten years.

They will most likely age (badly) far quicker then the LOTR movies.

 

[Njits]

Another super negative review of The Hobbit, this time by Wired: https://www.wired.com/underwire/2013/12/hobbit-desolation-of-smaug-review/

 

[The Josh]

They will most likely age (badly) far quicker then the LOTR movies.

I don't think that will be the case at all. Though to be honest I really don't give a rats bottom about the whole topic.

 

[The Josh]

Another super negative review of The Hobbit, this time by Wired: https://www.wired.com/underwire/2013/12/hobbit-desolation-of-smaug-review/

There's a few of those out there. Is what it is I suppose.