The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug

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But then you'd have to change Gandalf's line of "you haven't aged a day".

Then why stop there? Might as well change everything up to fit this new vision of Middle Earth!
 
Since we're on the topic of how these mesh with the LOTR films, I find it kind of odd that Gandalf has so much interaction with Sauron and his Orcs. In FOTR, he seems to be taken completely by surprise by Sauron's return.
 
Saw this tonight in 3D 24fps.

So, so epic and amazing. Beorn was great, the spiders were awesome (and they talked!), Smaug was perfect. I was laughing out loud at just how thrilling and entertaining the raging river battle was.

I will say though that I (and apparently the entire audience) have never been so gutted by such an abrupt ending before. The Empire Strikes Back's cliffhanger has got NOTHING on DOS. Damn.

The countdown for next Christmas begins. Next up, DOS in HFR.
 
Saw this tonight in 3D 24fps.

So, so epic and amazing. Beorn was great, the spiders were awesome, Smaug was perfect. I was laughing out loud at just how thrilling and entertainment the raging river battle was.

I will say though that I (and apparently the entire audience) have never been so gutted by such an abrupt ending before. The Empire Strikes Back's cliffhanger has got NOTHING on DOS. Damn.

The countdown for next Christmas begins.

If I had any complaint, it would be that one.
 
Since we're on the topic of how these mesh with the LOTR films, I find it kind of odd that Gandalf has so much interaction with Sauron and his Orcs. In FOTR, he seems to be taken completely by surprise by Sauron's return.

He's actually not surprised by Sauron's return. He's surprised Bilbo has The One Ring.
 
If I had any complaint, it would be that one.

It was funny when we got to the end of the movie last night and everyone (including my dad) all went "WHAT!". I've known about the ending for about a week so I knew what was coming.
 
Since we're on the topic of how these mesh with the LOTR films, I find it kind of odd that Gandalf has so much interaction with Sauron and his Orcs. In FOTR, he seems to be taken completely by surprise by Sauron's return.

In There and Back Again...

Gandalf gets shot in the head with a Mithril tipped arrow and gets amnesia.
 
The Fellowship prologue is narrated by Galadriel and in her version, young Bilbo looks like Ian Holm. The Hobbit is a story being told by Old Bilbo to Frodo, and in his version he looks like Martin Freeman. Galadriel and Old Bilbo apparently remember things differently.
 
Just got back, loved it.

This may be heresy to say here but...

My favorite sequence in the film didnt even happen in the books.

The whole sequence involving Bilbo and the Dwarves being chased by Smaug was incredible

I know there were going to be many things that weren't true to the book, but I decided to just let that go and enjoy the film on it's own merits.
 
PJ really made the previous Middle-Earth films their own individual experiences that advanced the story but had satisfying emotional resolutions that helped each film stand alone and feel complete for the most part. This time, he really embraced the serial approach and left us hanging for pretty much the first time, at least to this extent.

This really was the point where I expected things to end (so that we would still have more Smaug in the third film), but I was still expecting a warm fuzzy scene focusing on friendship and featuring a reprise of the Shire theme. He has always given us a bit of an opportunity for our emotions to exhale before the film ends--but this was just an "Oh crap" moment followed by the credits.

Fun!
 
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this was just an "Oh crap" moment followed by the credits.

Fun!

The entire sold out audience almost collectively shouted "awww!" when the credits hit. I sat in truly STUNNED silence. I was expecting the emotional sentimentality as the group regathers and begins to catch their breath for the final installment but nope.

I've spent the last couple hours coming to terms with the film's abruptness and I'm realizing that it gives an exclamation point of unpleasantness to the entire film's proceedings, but in a good way! The harshness of the ending (or non-ending) just puts a stamp on how dire everything had become.
 
Entertainment Weekly just posted an interview with Peter Jackson where he states that when it was originally going to be done in two movies the first movie was going to end when they met Bard the Bowman on the shore.
 
Then why does he have to go fish through all of those scrolls like he needs to find out what's going on?

He was going through the scrolls to confirm his fears about the Ring. Sauron's return was old news during the timeline of FOTR. Or at least the general knowledge that "evil" is gathering in Mordor en masse (Gondorians have been in an stage of constant warfare with their neibourgh for years at that point).

By the way - the "going through the scrolls" scene was one of my favourite moments of FOTR.

"Year 3434 of the Second Age. Here follows the account of Isildur - High King of Gondor and the finding of the Ring of Power"

"It is...precious to me"

So much awesome atmosphere in that scene.
 
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