The 'I actually love Obi-Wan' Thread

[user 1190]

And I think its right on in a lot of cases. Certainly mine. The sculpts and paint apps of the protos are virtually on par with PF which impressed me immensely, then after Anakin and Sith Anakin I realized that if you want PF quality, you really need to purchase a PF figure.

The 1/6 figures are great looking poseable dolls however and I look forward to having Obi-Wan to pose next to Sith Anakin while I begin my premium collection of 1/4 scale statues.

I agree, I would venture to guess that nearly the same amount of time is spent on the 1/6 head scuplt as with the PF head sculpt. Also it seems that there is a good number of people who seem to be upset with everything. I will addmit that I have said I would like a cool down of Jedis, but have never complained about how these look. I ask you one question, would you rather have Hasbro doing these? I mean do these look not look 2x3 better then Hasbros, from what I remeber the Hasbros were $20 each and these didnt look anywhere close to the final products we are getting.

Ok back to the regular scheduled complaining.

 

[Darth Loki]

I could be wrong but If I'm not mistaken you can return your product for a full refund for any reason including you simply don't like it. I think that's how they hold themselves accountable. While I agree that the final product shouldn't differ drastically from the proto I don't believe it's reasonable to say it shouldn't differ at all (i know you didn't say that but others have). Of all the lines I collect IMO SSC does is one of the best at getting the actual products to match the protos, even if Obi is an exception.

That being said, remember we all went through this when the Luke prod pics showed up too, and that for the most part all blew over once people got the actual product in hand. That, along with every person whose seen it in person saying it looks better than the new pics we've seen makes me hopeful that I'll be as happy with this as I have been with Luke and Mace.

You're right. It's been this way with Luke, Anakin, and Han. Everyone starts having kittens when these amature at best photos come out. But the actuall pieces I've received in hand have all been great. Which is why I'm reserving judgement until I receive the product.

And you can return anything you purchase direct from SS within 30 days I believe. However, I know many people here order from retailers and I doubt they are as leiniant.

 

[The Josh]

Actually Josh, based on the pics, I'm severely disappointed.

You have all the right in the world to feel that way. However, I think the High Res show it's not as bad as its being made out to be.

But unlike almost everyone else here, I don't deal out my judgement based on pics, but the final figure that comes to me.

Well, again I think it's much easier to look at a pic and say I like it knowing that when the figure gets to you that you will still feel the same. Saying you don't like something or it's horrible based on the pics is less fair though. Pics have a way of not doing things justice. I mean my pics show me to be some skinny 6' guy when I'm really a 7' Alien.

Not everyone here is a SS fanboy, and cheers everything they put out whether it's good or not.

Just because you like everything that comes from SS doesn't make you a fanboy. This is the type of thing that does piss me off. Why? Because I know I get lumped into it. I like the stuff that SS does. Are they perfect? No they aren't. Does that make them a good figure. I think they are. Some don't but that doesn't make them bad either. It's like I was saying to Darth Rage last night. The folks who have a problem with any piece are the first ones usually to say well the fanboys will get me for this. That's just asking to start **** between folks. Just say you don't like it and move on. You can go indepth of why you like it but do so without using the word fanboy in a derogatory manner. Remember as much as you don't like being thought of as a scalper because you bought the BHST only to resell it doesnt make you a scalper. Just as because you like SS stuff and are happy with it doesn't make you a fanboy. We are all adults here for the most part and the name calling we do is just sad. [/QUOTE]

 

[pjam]

You're right. It's been this way with Luke, Anakin, and Han. Everyone starts having kittens when these amature at best photos come out. But the actuall pieces I've received in hand have all been great. Which is why I'm reserving judgement until I receive the product.

And you can return anything you purchase direct from SS within 30 days I believe. However, I know many people here order from retailers and I doubt they are as leiniant.

As far as paint apps, let's be honest here...

Luke was very close to the original proto pics and the display and everyone was happy. Anakin was a mess, wrong colors, eyebrow "worming", deco lips, etc and not very close. Han was better than the original Proto pics and looked very close to the display piece... and Obi, again, like Anakin, used wrong/darker colors than the proto and it looks like the brows were "wormed' again so that's 50%, 1 for 2, not great consistency for these figures

Luke and Han - very close to display, maybe 90% or higher
Anakin and Obi - not very close, maybe 75%

Other figs have fared better

Mace - very close
Kit - spot on

So most of the paint apps problems have been with Anakin and Obi...

 

[TheObsoleteMan]

I'm very pleased with Obi-Wan, and it has nothing to do with accepting mediocrity, I just have realistic expectations of how good a mass produced item can look.

 

[The Josh]

I'm very pleased with Obi-Wan, and it has nothing to do with accepting mediocrity, I just have realistic expectations of how good a mass produced item can look.

I'm with ya. I don't expect them to look like a custom. I think once we get Obi-Wan in hand more than most will be very pleased.

 

[Darth Loki]

I'm with ya. I don't expect them to look like a custom. I think once we get Obi-Wan in hand more than most will be very pleased.

I agree with this which is why I haven't jumped off a bridge like many in the other thread. However the pics (which unfortunately is all we have to go by), are drastically different. The hi-res pics do show some subtle differences and I'm sure the figure once in hand will be much better.

 

[TOE]

I'm with ya. I don't expect them to look like a custom. I think once we get Obi-Wan in hand more than most will be very pleased.

Yup. Sideshow never dissapoints

 

[Darth Loki]

You have all the right in the world to feel that way. However, I think the High Res show it's not as bad as its being made out to be.



Well, again I think it's much easier to look at a pic and say I like it knowing that when the figure gets to you that you will still feel the same. Saying you don't like something or it's horrible based on the pics is less fair though. Pics have a way of not doing things justice. I mean my pics show me to be some skinny 6' guy when I'm really a 7' Alien.



Just because you like everything that comes from SS doesn't make you a fanboy. This is the type of thing that does piss me off. Why? Because I know I get lumped into it. I like the stuff that SS does. Are they perfect? No they aren't. Does that make them a good figure. I think they are. Some don't but that doesn't make them bad either. It's like I was saying to Darth Rage last night. The folks who have a problem with any piece are the first ones usually to say well the fanboys will get me for this. That's just asking to start **** between folks. Just say you don't like it and move on. You can go indepth of why you like it but do so without using the word fanboy in a derogatory manner. Remember as much as you don't like being thought of as a scalper because you bought the BHST only to resell it doesnt make you a scalper. Just as because you like SS stuff and are happy with it doesn't make you a fanboy. We are all adults here for the most part and the name calling we do is just sad.

[/QUOTE]



The fact that a person takes any criticism about a company as a personal attack (I'm not saying you do this, but it certainly appears so by your defense of them) is what makes one a "fan boy". I really wish the *****ing and moaning would stop about this piece until we actually have it IN HAND! SS has shown us in the past that pics can be misleading. Everyone was up in arms about Luke, but as soon as he started shipping, everyone realised there wasn't much to complain about. Same thing with Han. Everyone was killing the sculpt but once he started arriving, people did a 180.

However, Anakin had some paint app issues and I think people are scared the same issues will arise with Obi. People should be voicing their fears of bad paint apps, not criticizing something that no one has even seen in person yet.

 

[The Josh]

The fact that a person takes any criticism about a company as a personal attack (I'm not saying you do this, but it certainly appears so by your defense of them) is what makes one a "fan boy". I really wish the *****ing and moaning would stop about this piece until we actually have it IN HAND! SS has shown us in the past that pics can be misleading. Everyone was up in arms about Luke, but as soon as he started shipping, everyone realised there wasn't much to complain about. Same thing with Han. Everyone was killing the sculpt but once he started arriving, people did a 180.

What I take offense to when it comes to SS is when someone says something uncalled for. That can be someone calling them some kind name, say they are trying to rip them off, saying their sculptors don't know what they are doing. I shouldn't take offense to it but having gotten to know these folks the last few years. They are friends. I stand up for friends. This might sound stupid to some but that's just me. As far as the toys and this to goes for how we post about SS. We're adults here as I've said already. I think we can be eloquent enough to make posts saying like something without calling it dog **** basically or saying something nasty about SS. You know getting our point across with some class. If saying stuff against that makes me a fanboy then fine think of me as a fanboy.[/QUOTE]

 

[IrishJedi]

I call this, "From Perfection To Mediocrity In One JPEG":

 

[pjam]

I call this, "From Perfection To Mediocrity In One JPEG":

To be fair, we should include the proto head pic too!

 

[The Josh]

I call this, "From Perfection To Mediocrity In One JPEG":

Let's just chill a bit on these type of reactions folks.

 

[IrishJedi]

To be fair, we should include the proto head pic too!

Then that would be "From Freaky To Perfection To Mediocrity" then?

 

[IrishJedi]

Let's just chill a bit on these type of reactions folks.

Why? It's right there. The SDCC Obi-Wan was jaw-droppingly good. The production pics are, for many of us, "meh" at best. I'd say that's Perfection-to-Mediocrity in a nutshell.

Also note that even those defending this subpar painted production figure are not saying how incredible it is (which we ALL were when we saw the SDCC piece). That says enough.

 

[Darth Loki]

I call this, "From Perfection To Mediocrity In One JPEG":

I would say that the new pics are far from mediocre. They aren't as good as the prototype, but again these are pictures not figures. Is it so hard to reserve judgement until you actually see a product in person?

 

[pixletwin]

No. Mediocre is definately a strong word. I would say typical is a better word. Once you all accept that Rembrandt aint painting these head sculpts I think you will all be much happier and find these paint jobs much more palletable.

Yummy Obi-Wan....

 

[IrishJedi]

Is it so hard to reserve judgement until you actually see a product in person?

You know, I usually agree that the SSC figures do look better in person. But in this instance (as was also the case with Anakin) some of you are overlooking one very important fact: We're also judging the SDCC prototype from pictures, too. Yes, we all know that lighting and other elements can affect how something looks in a pic. But the simple fact of the matter is that any objective person could look at pics of what was shown at SDCC and what the final product apparently is and see that they are miles apart in quality of paint apps. You do NOT need to see it in person to observe that.

Also, I think you guys are mistaking "Mediocre" for CRAP. It's not. Mediocre is just fair, average. Not great, not horrible. And that's exactly what these production pics show, imho. The problem is that many of us expected this to be GREAT.

 

[The Josh]

Why? It's right there. The SDCC Obi-Wan was jaw-droppingly good. The production pics are, for many of us, "meh" at best. I'd say that's Perfection-to-Mediocrity in a nutshell.

Because it's like DL said. This is a picture not the figure. Looking at the high res and from the couple who have seen it say in person this looks good. Not perfect but pretty good. Again, if you all expect a mass produced piece to look exactly like the proto then you're simply fooling yourself.

Also note that even those defending this subpar painted production figure are not saying how incredible it is (which we ALL were when we saw the SDCC piece). That says enough.

It's subpar? Says who? You and some other fans. Who died and made you all the end all be all? Nobody just as much as nobody made me the end all be all on this piece being fantastic. Obi-Wan looks to be still really good in the High Res which show what we lose in the regular plus I like what I hear from the two folks who have seen it.

 

[pixletwin]

I agree with Josh. Time to bring this guy back:

And I thought it was bad with Anakin.... Sheesh...