The "I've Seen Indy IV" Thread (No Spoilers Please)

[Wor-Gar]

Are there any great hand-to-hand fights?

Does the villain die a good nasty death?

These are key elements for me.

Or expect the worst and you may be pleasantly surprised.

That's kinda what I'm thinking now.

 

[Entropy]

Are there any great hand-to-hand fights?

Does the villain die a good nasty death?

These are key elements for me.

Yes to the fights. Indy throws many a-punch.
Some unnecessary CGI comic business in one of Mutt's fights.

pretty good villain death, but my least favorite of all the 4 movie villain deaths.

 

[DarkArtist81]

Yes to the fights. Indy throws many a-punch.
Some unnecessary CGI comic business in one of Mutt's fights.

pretty good villain death, but my least favorite of all the 4 movie villain deaths.

Agreed on all points. The fights were fantastic. Indy and Mutt's fights. The villain death was not great, but still pretty decent.

Just one more note before I am off to bed... I honestly went into this movie almost expecting to be disappointed. The first few minutes, I was scared I wasn't going to like it. But after it started going, I was enthralled and it did not let go from there. It felt like Indy, just in a new era and time.

There were moments, 3 stand out ones, that were a bit over the top for me... Monkeys, a fridge, and a huge tree limb... But they weren't that bad, just over the top. The bits with the Gophers were forgivable, just odd. The monkeys are the worst bit.

But it didn't take away from the experience for me at all. Indy is back in his full glory, he is back... tomb hopping, jotting notes and acting like a real Archaeologist again. It was great.

I left the theater very happy, knowing that Lucas didn't sucker me like he did with Star Wars Episode I. I didn't feel cheated or let down at all. That was a surprise to me, especially after reading the posts in this thread before I went.

 

[Joker]

SPOLIER:





Good villain death? YEAH RIGHT! She dies like Grievous did, essentially, except after her brain combusts, she turns into CGI dust.







END SPOILER

 

[DarkArtist81]

Good villain death? YEAH RIGHT! She dies like Grievous did, essentially, except after her brain combusts, she turns into CGI dust.

Let me remind you of the "No spoilers" tag in the thread description.

Some people may not want to know that yet.

 

[Joker]

Oops. I'll edit it.

 

[DarkArtist81]

Oops. I'll edit it.

Cool.

Just know that if you are looking for another Indy adventure that changes things for Indy from that point on, this one is it.

If you are looking for a film that rivals Raiders itself, you won't get it. Raiders was perfection. But it does Rival Temple and Crusade. Bests Crusade IMO.

Really just depends on what your expectations are.

 

[Entropy]

There were moments, 3 stand out ones, that were a bit over the top for me... Monkeys, a fridge, and a huge tree limb... But they weren't that bad, just over the top. The bits with the Gophers were forgivable, just odd. The monkeys are the worst bit.

I was ok with the tree limb, by the time it happened other odder things had occurred, but would add the final climax with the skull. Fine, I can buy the skull with magical properties stuff but what happens with it was just over the top.

The narrative is more convoluted and just doesn't flow as well as Crusade or TOD even and the opening action scene is the weakest of the 4 movies.



You guys should just erase that bit rather than writing "spoiler" IMO. but whatever

 

[DarkArtist81]

I was ok with the tree limb, by the time it happened other odder things had occurred, but would add the final climax with the skull. Fine, I can buy the skull with magical properties stuff but what happens with it was just over the top.

The narrative is more convoluted and just doesn't flow as well as Crusade or TOD even and the opening action scene is the weakest of the 4 movies.

Really? I thought the opener was great. Much better than TLC, I sometimes skip over that bit when I watch that one. Just not as interesting to me. But apples and oranges I guess.

 

[Entropy]

Really? I thought the opener was great. Much better than TLC, I sometimes skip over that bit when I watch that one. Just not as interesting to me. But apples and oranges I guess.

What? the Cross of Coranado chase is great, the snakes, the bullwhip, the hat, introducing his dad and the obsession with the grail, then cutting to adult Indy on the ship is brilliant! It sets up the theme of the whole movie quite elegantly. A nice piece of writing that gives some origin story, characterization and flows well into the bits that follow.

 

[wofford29]

I honestly can't understand people picking apart an Indy movie like it's supposed to be fine art cinema or something. You have to turn your brain off for every Indy movie made, and I'm sure this one is no different. The previous three were dumb and entertaining, I expect nothing more from this one.

 

[Entropy]

I honestly can't understand people picking apart an Indy movie like it's supposed to be fine art cinema or something. You have to turn your brain off for every Indy movie made, and I'm sure this one is no different. The previous three were dumb and entertaining, I expect nothing more from this one.

I study every bit of writing I'm exposed to. There are well written action popcorn movies, well written romantic comedies just as there are well written "high art" dramas.

It's very illuminating to understand and be able to explain why one works and another does not. The structure of narratives and story telling is incredibly interesting.

 

[wofford29]

I study every bit of writing I'm exposed to. There are well written action popcorn movies, well written romantic comedies just as there are well written "high art" dramas.

It's very illuminating to understand and be able to explain why one works and another does not. The structure of narratives and story telling is incredibly interesting.

A well written script doesn't exempt a movie from being dumb.

 

[Entropy]

A well written script doesn't exempt a movie from being dumb.

True. But one can learn just as much about writing from dumb movies, or comics, or novels, as smart ones.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Yes to the fights. Indy throws many a-punch.
Some unnecessary CGI comic business in one of Mutt's fights.

pretty good villain death, but my least favorite of all the 4 movie villain deaths.

At least I get that.

 

[Joker]

I honestly can't understand people picking apart an Indy movie like it's supposed to be fine art cinema or something. You have to turn your brain off for every Indy movie made, and I'm sure this one is no different. The previous three were dumb and entertaining, I expect nothing more from this one.

Umm... What!? That's not the case at all. That's just ridiculous.

 

[RevRanger]

why the movie was terrible

There is one BIG reason why Indy 4 was a terrible movie (and a hundred small reasons) --

It is the single BIGGEST problem you can have with ANY story.

IT WOULD HAVE MADE NO DIFFERENCE AT ALL if the hero (in this case, Indiana Jones) had succeeded or failed in his journey.

 

[Entropy]

Re: why the movie was terrible

There is one BIG reason why Indy 4 was a terrible movie (and a hundred small reasons) --

It is the single BIGGEST problem you can have with ANY story.

IT WOULD HAVE MADE NO DIFFERENCE AT ALL if the hero (in this case, Indiana Jones) had succeeded or failed in his journey.

Good point. Things would've played out the same it seems.

 

[Trevolver]

gut reaction after seeing the movie- didn't work for me....but I'm WAY too in love with the original films. Disappointment was inevitable.

Trev

 

[hairlesswookiee]

Re: why the movie was terrible

What? the Cross of Coranado chase is great, the snakes, the bullwhip, the hat, introducing his dad and the obsession with the grail, then cutting to adult Indy on the ship is brilliant! It sets up the theme of the whole movie quite elegantly. A nice piece of writing that gives some origin story, characterization and flows well into the bits that follow.

AGREED!!!! And I actually like that movie more than Temple of Doom.

IT WOULD HAVE MADE NO DIFFERENCE AT ALL if the hero (in this case, Indiana Jones) had succeeded or failed in his journey.

Exactly!!! It was a very fun movie to watch, and I'm glad they got Indy and Marion back together in a film (like her character much better than the other Indy girls) and I didn't hate Mutt's character like I thought I was gonna. However, once we found out the whole premise and discovered what the Krystal Skulls were I was extremely disappointed.