The Mandalorian (Star Wars Live Action Series)
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Starting to get a little concerned about S2 for this show. I fear the focus will shift from Mando to the "guest character of the week" and he'll end up being a supporting character on his own show.
Not all that enthused about the idea of turning this show into a live-action version of one of the cartoons. I felt a little queasy when Moff Gideon emerged from his TIE fighter wielding the cartoon "dark saber". Up to that point, the show felt like it's own thing. And that dark saber effect was the cheapest looking effect seen on the show....just cheesy. I know the hype is high for Ashoka, but I hope the show takes the approach that a little goes a long way with these other characters.
Read a rumor that Maz Golden Girl Sophie is going to appear to explain how she gets Luke's saber. Oh God no. Please. The one thing I like about the Mando show is that one can ignore all of the sequel trilogy nonsense and just enjoy another character's story. Don't let this turn into another vehicle to explain away the sequel plot holes and poor writing.
Disney Lucasfilm has a good thing going with this show up to now. Here's hoping it stays it's own course. Hopefully we'll get a look soon with a new trailer...
Not all that enthused about the idea of turning this show into a live-action version of one of the cartoons. I felt a little queasy when Moff Gideon emerged from his TIE fighter wielding the cartoon "dark saber". Up to that point, the show felt like it's own thing. And that dark saber effect was the cheapest looking effect seen on the show....just cheesy. I know the hype is high for Ashoka, but I hope the show takes the approach that a little goes a long way with these other characters.
Read a rumor that Maz Golden Girl Sophie is going to appear to explain how she gets Luke's saber. Oh God no. Please. The one thing I like about the Mando show is that one can ignore all of the sequel trilogy nonsense and just enjoy another character's story. Don't let this turn into another vehicle to explain away the sequel plot holes and poor writing.
Disney Lucasfilm has a good thing going with this show up to now. Here's hoping it stays it's own course. Hopefully we'll get a look soon with a new trailer...
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This.
I would hate for them to use the popular platform of The Mandalorian as a vehicle simply to prop up the awful ST and attract support for it. However, I think it's inevitable, so make the most of it while you can and bale out when they start showing Baby Kylo.
As it stands The Mandalorian feels like an in-universe continuation of the story as it was left in ROTJ, before the dark times, before the Sequel Trilogy.
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This.
I would hate for them to use the popular platform of The Mandalorian as a vehicle simply to prop up the awful ST and attract support for it. However, I think it's inevitable, so make the most of it while you can and bale out when they start showing Baby Kylo.
As it stands The Mandalorian feels like an in-universe continuation of the story as it was left in ROTJ, before the dark times, before the Sequel Trilogy.
...I don?t see where all this worry comes from. That said, it?s all the same universe, so you can?t expect it to be fully ?it?s own thing?. It?s all connected.
I?d like to see a more coherent storyline with less sidesteps. Same feeling I had with Clone Wars and in some degree Rebels.
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I see Star Wars as three universes that never fully connect with each other.
The Prime universe: Solo / RO / OT / The Mandalorian.
The Prequel universe: largely undermines the Prime universe due to the comical use of battle droids and Jar Jar.
The Sequel Universe: largely undermines the Prime universe by reversing the character progression of the heroes in favour of bizarre new characters such as Kylo or Rey.
When Lucas tried to connect the PT to the OT he made Baby Vader the creator of C-3PO.
I like The Mandalorian as it is, as an episodic journey through the post-ROTJ universe.
However, it seems only natural for Disney to use a largely popular medium (e.g., TM currently has a higher IMDB rating than any Star Wars film apart from TESB which it equals) to bolster something less popular that they sank a massive amount of money into.
It's a more probable solution than the far more preferable one of flushing the ST down the toilet and turning it into Legends.
The ST is the elephant in the room that Disney have to address in some form.
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Just like Naughty Dog wouldn?t (and shouldn?t) make TLOU3 not be connected to 2 and make 2 non canon just because the fan base is divided.
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Yes, that's a similar situation, but I'm on the other side of the argument with that one since TLOU2 feels perfectly connected to TLOU.
The ST just doesn't feel connected at all. Disney will surely want to make it feel more so, by stitching elements into other series. It would take a Herculean effort for that to succeed with me, given how I feel towards the ST. I consider both the PT and ST as gangrenous limbs that had to be amputated, though some elements of the PT were worth saving and could be stitched back on. (The remainder may be assigned to mis-told or mis-remembered stories).
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The moment I see an ST character in this show is the moment they lose me. I won?t even cry about it, I?ll just find the ?off? switch. 
Corporations are not to be trusted. Disney will eventually taint this one way or another.
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Corporations are not to be trusted. Disney will eventually taint this one way or another.
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Very much agreed. It's extremely unlikely they could redeem the ST at this point for me so I hope they don't even try. Their story was entirely superfluous to requirements and not one I enjoyed. The PT are overall a very hard watch due to abominable execution of a good story that would have been worth telling otherwise. I've come to realize I don't mind PT references in general because of that one saving grace and because of the ambiguity allowed by your last sentence in brackets. For example there was nothing innately wrong with the Super Battle Droids - only their silly voices and use as comic relief in ROTS - whereas The Mandalorian was able to use them in an effective way.
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...grow u... nah sorry
When I change my mind about a post I'm making I cancel it. If I change my mind about a post I've already posted I go back and delete it. I see you have a different approach
slikkerias
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When I change my mind about a post I'm making I cancel it. If I change my mind about a post I've already posted I go back and delete it. I see you have a different approach
Yep, the post still says the same thing. Plus an apology
EDIT.WARNING.EDIT!!!: ...for a moment I forgot I was in a place where it?s kind of contradiction to tell people to grow up. So I apologized for doing so. Thanks for letting me know what you usually do. Very helpful
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Because Hollywood is notorious for milking things to death and reboots. UNWANTED reboots. And these days, politically correct reboots.
Anyone remember Terminator Dark Fate? *crickets*
Or like when Logan shows up in whichever X-men, kills some guys, and runs away. WTF.
It's a fine line - like, I like Clone Wars/Rebels. Rewatching Rebels right now. But just getting a bit tired 'coz yep, here's Ahsoka. Again. And again.
E.g. IMO Mandalorian needs to stay "pure" and focus on the main characters' journeys - Din D'jarin, Cara, Child. Keep it simple like the Western/Samurai stories it's based on. Clint Eastwood rode into town alone, and left alone (well, except for a couple of films
).
Bodega seems to be done with SW. Ridley complained she couldn't get work after ROS. Would any of the main human characters even be born re the timeline? Not worried about ST characters 'coz Favreau has said a lot about engaging with the fans. He's certainly aware of the disappointment re the ST.
I won't have a meltdown if Maz Kanata/cantina shows up in a single episode.
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Because Hollywood is notorious for milking things to death and reboots. UNWANTED reboots. And these days, politically correct reboots.
Anyone remember Terminator Dark Fate? *crickets*
Or like when Logan shows up in whichever X-men, kills some guys, and runs away. WTF.
It's a fine line - like, I like Clone Wars/Rebels. Rewatching Rebels right now. But just getting a bit tired 'coz yep, here's Ahsoka. Again. And again.
E.g. IMO Mandalorian needs to stay "pure" and focus on the main characters' journeys - Din D'jarin, Cara, Child. Keep it simple like the Western/Samurai stories it's based on. Clint Eastwood rode into town alone, and left alone (well, except for a couple of films
Where I?m from ?political correctness? is spelled ?common sense? ;-)
EDIT: that said I?m not into reboots and don?t really need the Mandalorian to connect to the ST. That said, if they do it in a way that works I?m all for it.
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LOLOLOL...you on the Freaks board now. Good luck.
Given the quality of the ST narrative, I can't see how they could 'do it well' outside of keeping it *very* peripheral. But that's just me, the ST has its fans.
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Uh I?ve noticed !!! [emoji28]
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To me "political correctness" these days = bad writing, most of the time. IMO forced character changes/narratives often fail; not always. Or forced cameos. Like, some felt the Raganarok DS scene was just an excuse. Personally thought it was funny and moved things along; if a bit rushed.
The girl power EG scene was cringe. Sure, that happens in the middle of a chaotic battle.
But bring in Sebastian Stan as Luke wandering around trying to put out fires (like, Moff Gideon or other warlords) in the New Republic; see if any Jedi survived the purge - sure. It's a big galaxy. IMO that would make sense; because Leia and Luke by that time have to be SOMEPLACE, if not around the Outer Rim. And it would tie back to Cara not wanting to become a babysitter for (new) governing officials/politicians. I'd even by seeing Han Solo having the same issues as Cara, in a way. Someone just beginning to chafe under losing a lot of personal freedom.
Not saying I WANT that; but timeline-wise I'd buy it, if handled carefully. If Mando goes multiple seasons, it would be stretching it to never even hear the name Skywalker. That doesn't mean the characters have to show up. Assuming Luke and Leia are "heroes of the revolution" with lots of people around, u probably don't just wander up to them. But running into Luke, maybe, sure. Eventually. Maybe at the end of the series.
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