The Mandalorian (Star Wars Live Action Series)

[chrisstbh]

Can't wait for Friday

 

[darth dennis]

Oh my! That was a legit LOL!

 

[Sassafras]

I dunno, the mention of Thrawn in Mando would seem utterly gratuitous if he ends up not appearing in this show at some point. It wasn't just a passing reference by a randomer.

I really hope not. I really hope they were pulling just an MCU thing where there's an end credit scene that segues to a different movie. So it was the hook to lead to an Ahsoka series where Filoni can write all the clunky dialogue he likes.

Am really hoping this series doesn't waste - IMO - the potential of this series to craft Moff Gideon (with GianCarlos talents) into one of SW's most outstanding villains, and doesn't pull more of tossing away the potential of a great new group of characters. Which IMO is where the ST blew it - sure wasn't the actors on board.

LOL tho - so in "the People vs. George Lucas" one of the things that's funny is the comment that when the PT was announced, EVERY SINGLE STAR WARS FAN PROMPTLY WROTE THE MOVIE IN THEIR HEADS.

Author Neil Gaiman commented "Fans know exactly what they want. They like the last thing you did, and they want more of the same, please."

Yep. I like what I saw in Season 1 and most of Season 2 Mando and I want more of the same. And I already have a draft of the whole thing in my head. Including giving Baby a much cooler SW name.

 

[The Buffinator]

What could go wrong?

This is exactly what I was thinking about, but too lazy to go find it.

 

[TurdFurgusonsHat]

Can't wait for Friday

Stuff like this is good for a laugh, but also an excellent reminder of how truly awful the ST was. That **** needs to be removed from cannon.

 

[ajp4mgs]

If we do see him I doubt it will be in this season, and if it is then it will be right at the end.

Maybe he and Gideon will team up, or maybe they will fight each other and we will have a three way war going on.

Most likely its just to set up a Rebels sequel though, which I dont really mind them doing as I would watch it anyway.

If the creators are thinking like this, then I need to keep my expectations seriously low.

Thrawn has just been established (in last week's episode) as being in charge of an extensive operation that strips entire regions of their resources and enslaves their people. That means that he's clearly been around for a while putting the pieces in place. So, if they make Moff Gideon anything remotely close to an equal adversary of his, then Thrawn's character will be nothing but a cheap imitation of what he has been in *two* different canon versions of Zahn's character.

If Thrawn isn't calling the shots, and Gideon isn't following his orders (his rank of "Moff" certainly suggests that he answers to a higher authority), then bringing Thrawn into live action to have him be some kind of strategic equal to Gideon will end up being nothing more than character assassination. For me, it would show a complete lack of understanding about Thrawn's long-running and consistent characterization.

IMO, his character in Rebels was already a bit of a lesser version of how he was portrayed in the novels. If they drop him even further in live action, that's going to be a massive failure to take advantage of major (and well-established) potential.

 

[chrisstbh]

If the creators are thinking like this, then I need to keep my expectations seriously low.

Thrawn has just been established (in last week's episode) as being in charge of an extensive operation that strips entire regions of their resources and enslaves their people. That means that he's clearly been around for a while putting the pieces in place. So, if they make Moff Gideon anything remotely close to an equal adversary of his, then Thrawn's character will be nothing but a cheap imitation of what he has been in *two* different canon versions of Zahn's character.

If Thrawn isn't calling the shots, and Gideon isn't following his orders (his rank of "Moff" certainly suggests that he answers to a higher authority), then bringing Thrawn into live action to have him be some kind of strategic equal to Gideon will end up being nothing more than character assassination. For me, it would show a complete lack of understanding about Thrawn's long-running and consistent characterization.

IMO, his character in Rebels was already a bit of a lesser version of how he was portrayed in the novels. If they drop him even further in live action, that's going to be a massive failure to take advantage of major (and well-established) potential.

I'd rather just wait and see rather than thinking the worst all the time, they haven't ruined anything yet with this show so have faith. The show is being made by fans for fans.

 

[ZE_501]

Stuff like this is good for a laugh, but also an excellent reminder of how truly awful the ST was. That **** needs to be removed from cannon.

Honestly, that on its own didn't bother me. Thought maybe it was a Zen master-style thing, or like Yoda faking him out in ESB. Test of character.

But I digress.

It's true that while it's far from flawless, this series so far has all the charm and entertainment factor of the OT. I hope they stay the course. Fandom alone is hard to please, but then there are the Disney brass and shareholders. A lot push and pull for one little show about a fanatic and his weirdo foundling.

 

[Sassafras]

I'd rather just wait and see rather than thinking the worst all the time, they haven't ruined anything yet with this show so have faith. The show is being made by fans for fans.

I would hope tho that the show doesn't forget NEW fans; or something that makes new fans. Imagine there's a fair number in the audience who went "who the &^%$ is Thrawn?"

Personally I can't stop thinking the worst; I LIKED TFA even with all the rehash. The new characters were fresh with potential great arcs. Was so excited about a messed-up Dark Sider (Kylo) and the idea of a lowly Stormtrooper deserting. Rey as well - some desert scavenger. There was so much - heck - Andy Serkis was making for a spectacular villain. Hux and Phasma. Even BB-8.

On the other hand, it's known Favreau went to Disney with a whole arc in mind, and IMO Filoni wound up Rebels well.

It's true that while it's far from flawless, this series so far has all the charm and entertainment factor of the OT. I hope they stay the course. Fandom alone is hard to please, but then there are the Disney brass and shareholders. A lot push and pull for one little show about a fanatic and his weirdo foundling.

There's that. Everyone jumping on the gravy train + Disney losing millions from the parks etc.

 

[chrisstbh]

I would hope tho that the show doesn't forget NEW fans; or something that makes new fans. Imagine there's a fair number in the audience who went "who the &^%$ is Thrawn?"

Personally I can't stop thinking the worst; I LIKED TFA even with all the rehash. The new characters were fresh with potential great arcs. Was so excited about a messed-up Dark Sider (Kylo) and the idea of a lowly Stormtrooper deserting. Rey as well - some desert scavenger. There was so much - heck - Andy Serkis was making for a spectacular villain. Hux and Phasma. Even BB-8.

On the other hand, it's known Favreau went to Disney with a whole arc in mind, and IMO Filoni wound up Rebels well.



There's that. Everyone jumping on the gravy train + Disney losing millions from the parks etc.

But why keep thinking the worst when this show has given no reason to do so yet? The movies and the shows are just two different beasts at this point. The Clone Wars, Rebels and The Mandalorian are better than any of the movies imo.

 

[ajp4mgs]

I'd rather just wait and see rather than thinking the worst all the time, they haven't ruined anything yet with this show so have faith. The show is being made by fans for fans.

My post was littered with "ifs" rather than "whens" so it should be pretty obvious that I'm not actually expecting a failure with Thrawn. But some fan comments sometimes get me thinking, "WTF? Oh no! Hope the writers aren't thinking this way."

I would hope tho that the show doesn't forget NEW fans; or something that makes new fans. Imagine there's a fair number in the audience who went "who the &^%$ is Thrawn?"

Thrawn will satisfy and even *make* new fans (if consistent with novelized Thrawn).

A great villain/antagonist is the best way to lure people in. When you know the heroes are gonna win (as we always know they will), a key to continued intrigue in the story is the "how." And when you have a villain like Thrawn (who can't be outsmarted, and doesn't rely on cheap gimmicks like Force powers), there's a ton of intrigue you can build in wanting to see *how* he eventually gets defeated.

There's a reason a character who had never appeared in anything but books sold plenty of merchandise for two decades before finally appearing on screen (albeit animated). The live-action version should be the ultimate mass-appeal version.

 

[Johnny Utah]

Why do I feel like Mace Windu is the one that shows up? There was this story a few months back:
https://www.dexerto.com/tv-movies/s...muel-l-jackson-disney-plus-plans-1419321/?amp

 

[xipotec]

Why do I feel like Mace Windu is the one that shows up? There was this story a few months back:
https://www.dexerto.com/tv-movies/s...muel-l-jackson-disney-plus-plans-1419321/?amp

I highly doubt that. SJ wouldn?t return for the role, and anyone else would be a casting issue.

They are going to do Ezra , possible Lule in CGI.


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[pixletwin]

Why do I feel like Mace Windu is the one that shows up? There was this story a few months back:
https://www.dexerto.com/tv-movies/s...muel-l-jackson-disney-plus-plans-1419321/?amp

That would be dumb. Dumber than ?mcclunky?, kind of dumb.


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[TurdFurgusonsHat]

I feel like it will be Luke. Ezra is too anticlimactic. Probably half the shows audience won't even know who he is.

 

[chrisstbh]

I feel like it will be Luke. Ezra is too anticlimactic. Probably half the shows audience won't even know who he is.

Half the audience probably don't know who Bo-Katan or Ahsoka are either, but that's their problem.

 

[ZE_501]

Half the audience probably don't know who Bo-Katan or Ahsoka are either, but that's their problem.

People like my girlfriend watch this show and love it because of Grogu first and foremost, and because they like action and fantasy.

They don?t know who all these other characters are and don?t care about their context or backstory beyond the show they?re watching.


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[sithocan]

It will be Kyle Katarn.

 

[Sassafras]

But why keep thinking the worst when this show has given no reason to do so yet? The movies and the shows are just two different beasts at this point. The Clone Wars, Rebels and The Mandalorian are better than any of the movies imo.

Well, IMO, the show has, as I was expecting quite a lot more when Mando met Jedi, and *cough* not to write another 6 paragraph rant but:

1) At about the halfway point the script for this past episode went to *&^%

2) Unlike the Bo-katan episode where there was a good blending of who was doing what, this IMO might have been a Rebels short focusing on Ahsoka while Mando took the kid out for ice cream;

3) IMO bringing Ahsoka in at all is a waste, in Din D'jarin's Jedi search, or any other of the OT/PT, at least this early - one of the things that excited me in the first place was Favreau's supposed "vision" of related SW - new characters, new stories, in a way we've never seen before.

I'd seen Ahsoka before, a lot. Clone Wars, Rebels. To me this was a wasted opportunity to do something exciting that, far as I know, hasn't been done in years - introduce a new Jedi who escaped Order 66. Kanan Jarrus wasn't the only one, in theory.

Maybe there's no reason to think the worst; and nothing I can do about it anyway; but d@mn it I hate starting to care and then phhht.

Now I'm in the loop again

and at the mercy of a group of people (directors) who potentially sneer at the audience on Twitter and churn out stuff like DC's Steppenwolf with the butt chin. We've already seen the pickle jars. Who knows what potential h3ll is waiting for the unsuspecting Mandalorian audience. Because Ahsoka/Filoni didn't think the Dark Side was worth a mention. Probably Palps, possessing the Child so he looks like a demon-gremlin and freaks Mando out.

 

[chrisstbh]

I disagree but to each their own.