The Mandalorian (Star Wars Live Action Series)

[DarkChocobi]

Get rid of the most annoying and most pathetic character in Star Wars history!

Should have been Rey Rey instead, Kylo was kinda cool, at least in certain parts of TFA.

 

[Asta]

Should have been Rey Rey instead, Kylo was kinda cool, at least in certain parts of TFA.

Kylo did look like he could've been a cool character when he appeared in TFA, but things quickly deteriorated as with that entire trilogy.

To me he'll always be Harry Enfield's Kevin the Teenager.

Rey was easier on the eye at least.


Can't erase the ST, but it can be pushed into some Elseworlds category. Not quite a Legend but a what-if story told by Artoo as to what might've happened if a certain path had not been taken.

Now there's a chance to take another path. However, that path should've been taken in the 1980s/1990s when the 'heroes' were still alive and in their prime, before it was necessary to employ CGI.

From its beginning The Mandalorian felt like old school Star Wars, when the EU novels were true to the feel of the OT, and felt like actual prequels and sequels before we got the disappointing prequel and sequel films themselves. The Mandalorian, along with Solo and Rogue One, are like reset buttons.

I wrote here somewhere that The Mandalorian could rewrite history and set it on a different path, push the ST into another timeline. While that's just wishful thinking, the best I might hope for is that the history it tells makes the ST more palatable. And I think that's what its aim really is.

 

[JAWS]

When I repeat myself over and over?

Do you ever read any other posts here? Geezus. Do you read your own posts?



Yeah

This was what you posted within an hour yesterday.. Nobody replied to you so you kept posting it

That is what I was referring to.

You are going to be waaaay more grateful when Disney announces the ST being retconned and Favreau helms up the new trilogy with Din, Grogu, Luke, etc...

It is over for the ST. It is done. It is being retconned after this finale. You think Disney gonna keep Rey in the way of Grogu and Luke?s story? LMAO!

ST IS FINISHED!


JOOOOOOYYYYYYY TO THE WOOOORLLLLLDDDDDD!

Internet is on fire right now.

Grogu, R2, CGI Luke, Din, Ahsoka... are the future. They are a cash cow. A new trilogy and new path towards the future with that group would make tens of billions in sales. Much better and more liked than the little ST and Mary Rey Sue. Believe me. A five minute scene did more for Star Wars and will sell more merch than 3 movies ever did. It is over for the ST.

MAKE STAR WARS GREAT AGAIN AND RETCON THE ST!

A new trilogy with Luke, R2, Grogu, Ahsoka, Din... I bet each movie beats Endgame. Disney must be soo excited to cash in.

How is nobody talking about the ST being retconned? Y?all think Disney gonna have Grogu slaughtered lmao

Or just be completely ignored?

New ST is being planned as I type and it all starts with Mando, CGI Luke, and Grogu.

REJOICE THE TRASH ST SHALL SOON BE DEAD!

So its not that you repeat yourself... We all do that..


Its that you run around in circles banging on a pan waiting for the someone to notice you

I cant help but picture this.

 

[JAWS]

The worst thing to happen to the world -- this who multiverse thing.

Now, like the internet, everyone can have their own reality. Because, as we can all see, since it makes the real world such a better place, then it will make make-believe worlds better too.

My verdict on Multiverse is still out there for Marvel. It could be cool.


However I tend to hate time travel in films. I liked it in T1, BTTF and Looper... But its always the same thing.

Just watched Tenet.. Yep guessed half of what was going on in that film also because time travel in films is just... Boring.


Now with a Multiverse that actually interact... I kind think that could be cool. The whole Amazing Spider-man 3 thing sounds awesome to me.

Don't like your reality -- we'll change it for you. We'll retcon whatever you like. Make it better for you. Easier to swallow. Settle back. Relax. Enjoy.

Studios are afraid of people turning blue and passing out after crossing their arms and holding their breath for too long.

 

[TheDucky]

This was what you posted within an hour yesterday.. Nobody replied to you so you kept posting it

That is what I was referring to.











So its not that you repeat yourself... We all do that..


Its that you run around in circles banging on a pan waiting for the someone to notice you

I cant help but picture this.

Damn. You got me man. 4 posts in one whole hour... right after I finished the episode. Woooow.


Don’t worry man, I’ll stop pounding on that pan. Actually, I’ll stop just running around too. I won’t even enter the threads.

 

[TurdFurgusonsHat]

I know this.. If the ST gets retconed.. I know that I will still go on..

If they start sneaking little bits of ST stuff into the new shows there are going to be some members here who will have a major meltdown.

Either way one of us gets to say I told you but only one of the sides if they win will get to watch the show of grown men having temper tantrums

I would be irritated for sure but there won't be any meltdown. I'll just leave and take my money with me, simple as that. Favreau has made that easier than ever to do as of the season 2 finale, the dude just understands OT Star Wars and it's fans. The wonderful story of Mando and Grogu has reached a satisfying endpoint and Favreau even managed to fix Luke Skywalker in the process. I've got RO leading into the OT and The Mandalorian wrapping up the OT, don't "need" anything else.

But I'll give some of the stuff still to come a fair chance. Favreau is still around and I'll be forever grateful for what he did. How long I stay and how much I spend really depends on the direction Disney takes all this.

 

[TheDucky]

Damn. You got me man. 4 posts in one whole hour... right after I finished the episode. Woooow.


Don’t worry man, I’ll stop pounding on that pan. Actually, I’ll stop just running around too. I won’t even enter the threads.

Awww, who am I kidding....

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[Otomofan]

I believe I've been as vocal, if not MORE, than anyone on this forum about how much I ****ing HATE the Disney Trilogy. Every goddamn aspect of it.

But I'm not stupid. I don't stick my head in the sand and believe fairy tales some jackass on youtube with a big plastic head made up for clicks.

I loved The Mandalorian but the clues are there as clear as freaking day. Gideon practically winked into the camera when he said the word...."ORDER." Those gross clone things WERE Snoke. They need Baby Yoda's magic blood for CLONING THE EMPEROR.

These things happened and they happened for a reason. The movies are a part of Disney's continuity whether we like it or not, and it always will be.

I chose to just ignore those little hints, just like I ignore the movies themselves.

If you don't like the movies, IGNORE THEM. Disney doesn't have the cajones to undo what they're still trying to squeeze money out of. If/when the state of the franchise gets as desperate as Terminator, sure....maybe in 20 years.

If Carrie wasn't dead and Hamill and Ford were all about 15 years younger, then yes, I could see them possibly mulling over the idea of a re-do. But all this whining about "what ifs?" and wishful thinking is just a waste of time.

What's done is done. Disney had the biggest opportunity in the history of movie making, right at their finger tips, and all they did with it was drop their drawers and take an enormous wet Cleveland Steamer all over it.

PS.....just my opinion, but I don't think we're gonna see Luke again on any of these shows. Yes, it was amazing and "broke the internet" but I think it was a one time thing, like the last Led Zeppelin concert. Of course everyone is left wanting more, but that's kind of the point, isn't it?

 

[xipotec]

I believe I've been as vocal, if not MORE, than anyone on this forum about how much I ****ing HATE the Disney Trilogy. Every goddamn aspect of it.

But I'm not stupid. I don't stick my head in the sand and believe fairy tales some jackass on youtube with a big plastic head made up for clicks.

I loved The Mandalorian but the clues are there as clear as freaking day. Gideon practically winked into the camera when he said the word...."ORDER." Those gross clone things WERE Snoke. They need Baby Yoda's magic blood for CLONING THE EMPEROR.

These things happened and they happened for a reason. The movies are a part of Disney's continuity whether we like it or not, and it always will be.

I chose to just ignore those little hints, just like I ignore the movies themselves.

If you don't like the movies, IGNORE THEM. Disney doesn't have the cajones to undo what they're still trying to squeeze money out of. If/when the state of the franchise gets as desperate as Terminator, sure....maybe in 20 years.

If Carrie wasn't dead and Hamill and Ford were all about 15 years younger, then yes, I could see them possibly mulling over the idea of a re-do. But all this whining about "what ifs?" and wishful thinking is just a waste of time.

What's done is done. Disney had the biggest opportunity in the history of movie making, right at their finger tips, and all they did with it was drop their drawers and take an enormous wet Cleveland Steamer all over it.

PS.....just my opinion, but I don't think we're gonna see Luke again on any of these shows. Yes, it was amazing and "broke the internet" but I think it was a one time thing, like the last Led Zeppelin concert. Of course everyone is left wanting more, but that's kind of the point, isn't it?

See this is what a well thought out reply from a person who disliked the ST looks like......


Not some youtube fantasy reposting of what is essentially modern tabloid nonsense for clicks.

Respect. I disagree about the ST but respect anyway.

Funny how just listening to someone?s differing opinion these days garners such respectful tones when it?s grounded in REALITY rather than some alternate truth with zero facts backing it up.


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[ironwez20]

I don?t believe the ST will be changed but I believe they will change aspects from it and improve upon it. Like they might be a timeline but now snoke is a different better character and the first order is more fleshed out.

 

[Otomofan]

See this is what a well thought out reply from a person who disliked the ST looks like......

Respect. I disagree about the ST but respect anyway.

Thank you, good sir.

I don?t believe the ST will be changed but I believe they will change aspects from it and improve upon it. Like they might be a timeline but now snoke is a different better character and the first order is more fleshed out.

I disagree. I think the best we can hope for is that they quietly don't bring it up in the shows very much, which is exactly what we've seen so far in Mandalorian. There was a reference to Canto Bight in season one. There were some more overt connections in season two. But the references to the once-despised PT were also sparse, until the Boba Fett episodes where they very explicitly referenced his origins.

I'm OK with it the way it is. As I've stated before, once it becomes uninteresting to me, I'll simply stop watching, and Luke taking the child will be my perfect jumping off point. I certainly won't be watching anything with Ahsoka. The other spin offs sound pretty lame to me, too. And I fell asleep during my attempts to watch Rogue One and Solo, and I never bothered to see the last of the Disney Trilogy.

Yet, I still consider myself as die hard a SW fan as they come. I've lived and breathed this stuff my entire life. I was there during the "dark" years from 1984-1995 when NOTHING was going on, and only true hardcores were left, buying first prints of Dark Empire cause it was the most exciting SW event in years.

Just cause I don't like the poorly conceived fan fiction that a mega corporation hastily tossed together doesn't make me any less of a fan.

We can all pick and choose what we love about SW and what we don't. That even goes for Lucas's stuff.

I saw ROTJ on opening day as a little kid. And even then, back in 1983, seeing it unfold for the first time.....I remember thinking "Wait a minute. Leia is his SISTER? He kissed her though....that's gross! Come on man, this is ********!"

Anyway, I'm rambling. My point is simple....you don't need Disney to tell you what is or isn't "real" SW.....it's up to you.

 

[Otomofan]

(And yeah....I guess there's a part of me that allows multiple universes to be "canon" cause this post-ROTJ Luke was very much canon in my mind.... but at the same time, this post-ROTJ Luke is also very much "canon" to me too ....so I don't know. I just like the stuff I like.)

 

[hellgrammite00]

At the end of the day does it really matter if ST is cannon or not?

Disney isn't likely to touch very much on it directly (for awhile) for a couple of reasons:
1) The actors who did those movies have been critical of either the movies, their roles in those movies, or just did not like the whole experience
2) The world building in these wasn't very good. A few things they might be able to use later in other series, but overall its empty and creative
3) Anything new that was brought into that trilogy got destroyed, and it relied on past plots to keep the it moving forward.

The ST is crap. Disney is not going to throw it away, but hopefully make Star Wars fans slowly accept it by peppering it into every bit of new Star Wars content, until they accept it from corporate osmosis. After 5-10 years of this, then they might try and do something more direct with ST.

Let's be real also, Star Wars fans are in many ways a cult. Even if you find gaping loopholes and sections of your group drinking Arsenic laden punch, people still plow forward in absolute faith and devotion. Those Star Wars celebration events....

 

[user 64404]

(And yeah....I guess there's a part of me that allows multiple universes to be "canon" cause this post-ROTJ Luke was very much canon in my mind....View attachment 501798 but at the same time, this post-ROTJ Luke is also very much "canon" to me too View attachment 501799....so I don't know. I just like the stuff I like.)

I would love to see some of this design in the last episode.

 

[TurdFurgusonsHat]

At the end of the day does it really matter if ST is cannon or not?

The ST was a complete disgrace, as earlier put a horror movie. So yeah it matters.

But if Disney at least steps around it I'll probably stick around but if they feature it prominently I'll be gone in a blink.

 

[Khev]

I believe I've been as vocal, if not MORE, than anyone on this forum about how much I ****ing HATE the Disney Trilogy. Every goddamn aspect of it.

But I'm not stupid. I don't stick my head in the sand and believe fairy tales some jackass on youtube with a big plastic head made up for clicks.

Smart man.

And thanks for reminding me of *Canto Bight* of all things already being referenced in Mandalorian. They ain't retconning ****.

 

[Khev]

(And yeah....I guess there's a part of me that allows multiple universes to be "canon" cause this post-ROTJ Luke was very much canon in my mind....View attachment 501798 but at the same time, this post-ROTJ Luke is also very much "canon" to me too View attachment 501799....so I don't know. I just like the stuff I like.)

Yep I have alternate head canons too. It's all part of the fun.

As I've said before when I watch the original SW I even do so recognizing that in that movie Darth Vader is *not* Luke's father. And then depending on my mood I might recognize the theatrical OT only, the theatrical OT + the awesome Dark Empire series that you reference above, OT + ST or even thanks to Mando now the whole darn canon (PT/TCW/Rebels/OT/Mando/ST.) That's why I have to laugh at those who somehow need their personal canon to be recognized by Disney, to the point where they'll actually convince themselves into believing the silliest things imaginable (like Disney/LFL dismissing an entire trilogy of their self-labeled "Skywalker Saga", the last hurrah of all the Legacy OT actors on screen no less.) So crazy.

 

[Khev]

Sy Snootles turning 40

I'm not gonna lie I chuckled to myself when including that bit, lol.

 

[Khev]

Holy freaking crap Luke's rampage set to Vader's music and audio.

 

[xipotec]

I don?t believe the ST will be changed but I believe they will change aspects from it and improve upon it. Like they might be a timeline but now snoke is a different better character and the first order is more fleshed out.

Also agree. It?s not changing something to give it more substance and backstory.

After all, everything people complained about with Rey was explained pretty clearly, although maybe not to everyone satisfaction.

One of my personal gripes with the ST was the total lack of explanation of many things. Or the expectation that one line of dialogue would gloss over major changes or shifts in a character. Grants we got more explanations later, but when you set a film decades after a beloved and well know franchise, you better have some flashbacks or long winded exposition about how the characters got where they are.
I think the only character that got that was Luke. And again , it was unsatisfying for many to see their hero as a fallible human.

I personally loved that approach. Luke has the galaxy on his shoulders, and failure was inevitable with what he was attempting. The fact the failure was orchestrated against him , makes it quite tragic.


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