The Mandalorian (Star Wars Live Action Series)

[TurdFurgusonsHat]

There is no such thing as "The Skywalker Saga".

 

[Khev]

Cling to "your truth" as much as you want but I'm more interested in the actual truth.

 

[TurdFurgusonsHat]

Cling to "your truth" as much as you want but I'm more interested in the actual truth.

Lol, a tag line concocted in a sad attempt to sell a Blu Ray box set that very few people wanted.

 

[Khev]

Lol, a tag line concocted in a sad attempt to sell a Blu Ray box set that very few people wanted.

Is there no Infinity Saga then? Was there never a "Star Wars Trilogy?" Or Prequel Trilogy? What other words have no meaning for you simply because you arbitrarily decide that you don't like the content that they reference? "I don't like lima beans. Therefore there is no such thing as lima beans."

 

[TurdFurgusonsHat]

Is there no Infinity Saga then? Was there never a "Star Wars Trilogy?" Or Prequel Trilogy? What other words have no meaning for you simply because you arbitrarily decide that you don't like the content that they reference?

I have never heard a fan casually refer to the trilogies together as "The Skywalker Saga". They are referred to almost universally as the OT, PT, and ST divided. Two were made by George Lucas, one by Kennedy and her story group. The only people calling it "The Skywalker Saga" are Kennedy and her minions because they are desperate to legitimize the ST and replace the OT with "their Star Wars".

 

[Khev]

I have never heard a fan casually refer to the trilogies together as "The Skywalker Saga".

Well you can never make such a claim ever again now can you. It's the official designation of the three trilogies that comprise the nine episodic entries of the Saga. I don't hang on every word of "Kennedy and her minions" the way you do (since I couldn't give two ****s about either of those parties) but I do know how to read the side of a box, video game, or tie-in picture book.

 

[TurdFurgusonsHat]

Well you can never make such a claim ever again now can you. It's the official designation of the three trilogies that comprise the nine episodic entries of the Saga. I don't hang on every word of "Kennedy and her minions" the way you do (since I couldn't give two ****s about either of those parties) but I do know how to read the side of a box, video game, or tie-in picture book.

Oh I can read, I just recognize desperate and phony marketing when I see it.

 

[Khev]

Oh I can read

But prefer to make up your own definitions for words that describe things you don't like apparently even to the point of pretending that they don't exist at all. Sorry, I don't mean to pick on you, I just have little tolerance for the "my truth" movement especially when it comes to words with clearly defined meanings.

Okay rant over, lol.

 

[TurdFurgusonsHat]

But prefer to make up your own definitions for words that describe things you don't like apparently even to the point of pretending that they don't exist at all. Sorry, I don't mean to pick on you

Well obviously I know the content actually exists, I just don't recognize it as Star Wars content just because a corporation bought the franchise and a division of that corporation says the content they make is fused to the original classics. Millions of other fans don't recognize the ST either.

Would you say Ghostbusters 2016 is part of the originals? How about any Terminator films after part 2 or Kingdom of the Crystal Skull?

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[Khev]

Well obviously I know the content actually exists, I just don't recognize it as Star Wars content just because a corporation bought the franchise and a division of that corporation says the content they make is fused to the original classics.

I'll accept the backpedal while still recognizing that that's exactly what you're doing.

Millions of other fans don't recognize the ST either.

Would you say Ghostbusters 2016 is part of the originals? How about Terminator Dark Fate or Kingdom of the Crystal Skull?

No you can't do this all day. If you could then you'd be able to stand your ground without needing the validation of "millions of other fans." Waiting until *after* the portals open before mustering the courage to go to battle just isn't Cap's way.

Of course I don't recognize Ghostbusters 2016 as being part of an ongoing story with GB 1 and 2. GB2016 doesn't even consider itself part of the same story, lol. Dark Fate certainly does and if the studio started calling T1, T2, and DF "the Cameron Saga" then I'd have no problem acknowledging the actual moniker when talking specifically about those three films as a whole. You don't have to like something in order to acknowledge reality. I usually bristle at calling Star Wars "ANH" since that isn't what it was originally called but it *is* the official episode subtitle and often times it's just easier to use as a point of reference.

Marvel started all this with "Phase I,", Phase II," "The Infinity Saga," and so on and since SW is just going to keep going on apparently forever just like Marvel then compartmentalizing certain sections just makes logical sense. Calling it out as phony or desperate is just silly and intellectually dishonest.

 

[TurdFurgusonsHat]

I didn't backpedal at all. I just had to clarify because you either didn't understand my meaning or were just stubbornly refusing to acknowledge my proper/appropriate use of words in a sentence.

 

[Khev]

I didn't backpedal at all.

Okay I'll give you an opportunity point blank to show whether you're a "personal truther" or not.

Is the official name of Star Wars Episodes I-IX "The Skywalker Saga" or not?

Super easy yes or no question. Have at it.

 

[TurdFurgusonsHat]

Okay once I'll give you an opportunity point blank to show whether you're a "personal truther" or not.

Is the official name of Star Wars Episodes I-IX "The Skywalker Saga" or not?

Super easy yes or no question. Have at it.

Lol, I just said several times that it isn't. According to Kennedy's Lucasfilm it is but that doesn't make it so. A stroke of a pen can change the corporate definition at any given moment.

 

[TurdFurgusonsHat]

What a wonderful world we live in. All I have to do is say the words. It's the Skywalker saga. I'm a giraffe. No wait I'm a mongoose. No wait my last name is Skywalker.

 

[Khev]

Lol, I just said several times that it isn't.

Oh wow, you're right I did totally misread you before when I said you were backpedaling to a position of being able to actually acknowledge reality. Okay I get it you didn't backpedal you really *ARE* out of touch with reality.

According to Kennedy's Lucasfilm it is but that doesn't make it so.

Well there's a plot twist I wasn't expecting. Your recent posts may be the purest form of STDS I've seen yet.

 

[Otomofan]

Calling it out as phony or desperate is just silly and intellectually dishonest.

Kind of like in the late 90s when Lucas himself started to say that Star Wars really is "The Ballad of Anakin Skywalker" when anyone with eyes and a brain can tell that Vader in SW and Vader in ESB are two very different characters.

SW has been evolving and changing and twisting around ever since it made a zillion bucks back in '77 and was officially greenlit for a sequel. The entire "saga" is built on a foundation of lies and half-truths, constantly changing and forcing things in that don't fit and retconning and glossing over things.

Khev, you can believe what you want, but at any given point in the last 40 years we've been given products that are "The COMPLETE Saga." It's constantly shifting according to the marketing department's needs.

I'm with Turd. Apparently there's a cardboard box with discs in it that someone has released and called "The Skywalker Saga" but it's no more legitimate to me than a guy selling camcorder bootlegs out of the back of his car.

Who signature is on that fancy letter that comes with that box set? Cause if it's not signed by George Lucas, (which some sets were...didn't the THX set in 1995 have his signature of approval?) then it doesn't matter an iota to me.

"Thanks so much for purchasing our set of The Skywalker Saga on bluray! Sincerely, Becky in human resources, Disney Megacorp."

 

[Otomofan]

Just looked it up....the letter is from none other than MARK HAMILL. So yes, a pretty damn legitimate source compared to some Disney peon, but hardly someone that gives glowing approval of the Disney Trilogy, especially when his most recent tweets are considered.

 

[Khev]

Kind of like in the late 90s when Lucas himself started to say that Star Wars really is "The Ballad of Anakin Skywalker" when anyone with eyes and a brain can tell that Vader in SW and Vader in ESB are two very different characters.

Who signature is on that fancy letter that comes with that box set? Cause if it's not signed by George Lucas then it doesn't matter an iota to me.

Okay so the only SW that you recognize is "The Ballad of Anakin Skywalker" since George's retcons are the only ones that "matter an iota" to you. The Ballad of Anakin Skywalker can absolutely be your Star Wars. Personally I think that the Ballad of Anakin is a stupid SW, and the OT:SE + PT has never been "my" SW but if you want to bow at the altar of Lucas and throw out the ST, RO, Mandalorian and everything that he didn't personally sign then more power to you.

I have my own personal canon as well and there are probably very few fans who don't compartmentalize portions of the Saga in some fashion.

The question is where does your hatred for the SW that you don't like turn into full derangement, completely detaching you from reality. Because for me having my own personal canon does NOT make me suddenly pretend that there is no original theatrical SW, 1997 Special Edition trilogy, Prequel Trilogy, 2004 SE Trilogy, 2011 SE Trilogy, Legends EU, Skywalker Saga, and Disney Canon. Every single one of those is a real and separate thing. Don't stand with p*****s who are incapable of recognizing that. Be better.

I don't bow to Lucas nor do I bow to Disney. If I bowed to the latter then I'd have to accept not only the ST but also the Chuck Wendig books, High Republic, and all the idiotic comics that have come out since 2015. But I don't. I only bow to what I see as the best version of the Saga that most honors the original versions of SW and ESB. I don't give a **** about who signs what. Just give me the best version of what was established in 1977 and 1980. And I even consider SW/ESB to be its own canon apart from ROTJ!

But I'm not gonna be an idiot and say that "there is no OT" or any other established grouping in order to coddle my own derangement. Come on now, reality is not what your personal truth says it is.

 

[TurdFurgusonsHat]

Khev you are the one losing your grip. Once again, I know the content exists in the real world. I'm just not a sheep who accepts the story group's definition of what Star Wars content is. It's no different than having a "personal cannon" that you are touting.

 

[jye4ever]

The Ballad of Anakin Skywalker is definitely no definitive SW sword i’m falling on

The Ballad of Panicking Skywalker is more like it lol