jye4ever
Broke and happy
Re: The Official "The Hobbit" movie thread
Well, now that you asked, I know a thing or 2 about this stuff, like you pros with your dollies
I will never forget the first time I watched a traditional movie with Dejudder turned on to max.
It was with Raiders, my jaw hit the ground.
What I did was revist my entire movie collection with it turned on, it was like seeing those movies for the 1st time again.
Besides the "video" look, what I immediately noticed was that it made regular DVDs and Blu-rays even more razor sharp, especially the regular DVDs which saw the biggest "improvements" in "perceived" sharpness.
The TV companies (not Hollywood) wanted that technology to be included on their TVs for 2 reasons.
1. To sell the smooth motion marketing of 120Hz (now up to 240/480) when it really wasn't doing anything, Dejudder was, they knew this.
2. They needed a gimic to show (really trick) consumers into believing that any movie, regardless if a black and white movie, a DVD at 480p or a 1080p movie could look as sharp as a modern CGI animated movie (Chicken Little for example).
They wanted anything you threw at it to look "razor sharp", like Chicken Little, they really needed to sell the 1080p upgrade.
Most informed consumers like yourself are already on the ball and are aware of the obvious effects, which is the "soap opera", "live" look, like you're watching a broadway show, or a show shot on HD video.
But the other byproduct of Dejudder is that it also removes the "film" out of films.
It erases that "cloudiness" that is present in all traditional shot movies, it erases that "floating" information and tricks you into seeing a traditional shot movie look like an animated CGI movie.
Guess what, the TV companies succeeded (SONY being the leader), tremendously I might add.
They made a regular DVD movie encoded at 480p all of a sudden look like a modern razor sharp HD image, too bad it comes at the expense of making Raiders of the Lost Ark look like a Soap Opera, film purist be damned.
When you get a chance, put on Fantastic Four part 2 with Dejudder turned on and enjoy the huge laughter of seeing the Dejudder literally splitting the CGI elements away from the actors, it will blow your mind in how crazy this technology really is.
What do I think about it you asked?
At first I liked it, it was exciting and crazy.
But then I calmed down and realized that traditional movies with DJ turned on is all kinds of wrong.
While it was a nice distraction to see a razor sharp video Indy killing Nazis and Vader saying "I am your Dejudder", and while it was a huge success for Sony and the consortium, I will never accept Dejudder turned on as my primary choice for viewing a movie.
I prefer the natural way of making a traditional movie look razor sharp, increased resolution (4K and up cinema, Imax, etc).
Believe me, I get what the TV companies were trying to do, but that was for the home.
The direction PJ has taken i'm sure has really surprised many.
I much prefer what Nolan is doing with TDKR.
I'm not going to lie though, i'm really curious to see what PJ has up his sleeves with this project, not in the story department, we know it will be an awesome movie series, i'm talking about the technical aspect of it all.
I honestly don't know how much smoothness he will introduce into it, it's really up to him how the final product turns out.
This is a huge gamble.
Will it pay off for him and the studio, lets see.
If it does turn out looking like Dejudder turned on to the max, then maybe the 3D will make it look bad ass, I don't know.
How exactly? More frames is more frames.
Where do you stand on the "argument"?
Well, now that you asked, I know a thing or 2 about this stuff, like you pros with your dollies
I will never forget the first time I watched a traditional movie with Dejudder turned on to max.
It was with Raiders, my jaw hit the ground.
What I did was revist my entire movie collection with it turned on, it was like seeing those movies for the 1st time again.
Besides the "video" look, what I immediately noticed was that it made regular DVDs and Blu-rays even more razor sharp, especially the regular DVDs which saw the biggest "improvements" in "perceived" sharpness.
The TV companies (not Hollywood) wanted that technology to be included on their TVs for 2 reasons.
1. To sell the smooth motion marketing of 120Hz (now up to 240/480) when it really wasn't doing anything, Dejudder was, they knew this.
2. They needed a gimic to show (really trick) consumers into believing that any movie, regardless if a black and white movie, a DVD at 480p or a 1080p movie could look as sharp as a modern CGI animated movie (Chicken Little for example).
They wanted anything you threw at it to look "razor sharp", like Chicken Little, they really needed to sell the 1080p upgrade.
Most informed consumers like yourself are already on the ball and are aware of the obvious effects, which is the "soap opera", "live" look, like you're watching a broadway show, or a show shot on HD video.
But the other byproduct of Dejudder is that it also removes the "film" out of films.
It erases that "cloudiness" that is present in all traditional shot movies, it erases that "floating" information and tricks you into seeing a traditional shot movie look like an animated CGI movie.
Guess what, the TV companies succeeded (SONY being the leader), tremendously I might add.
They made a regular DVD movie encoded at 480p all of a sudden look like a modern razor sharp HD image, too bad it comes at the expense of making Raiders of the Lost Ark look like a Soap Opera, film purist be damned.
When you get a chance, put on Fantastic Four part 2 with Dejudder turned on and enjoy the huge laughter of seeing the Dejudder literally splitting the CGI elements away from the actors, it will blow your mind in how crazy this technology really is.
What do I think about it you asked?
At first I liked it, it was exciting and crazy.
But then I calmed down and realized that traditional movies with DJ turned on is all kinds of wrong.
While it was a nice distraction to see a razor sharp video Indy killing Nazis and Vader saying "I am your Dejudder", and while it was a huge success for Sony and the consortium, I will never accept Dejudder turned on as my primary choice for viewing a movie.
I prefer the natural way of making a traditional movie look razor sharp, increased resolution (4K and up cinema, Imax, etc).
Believe me, I get what the TV companies were trying to do, but that was for the home.
The direction PJ has taken i'm sure has really surprised many.
I much prefer what Nolan is doing with TDKR.
I'm not going to lie though, i'm really curious to see what PJ has up his sleeves with this project, not in the story department, we know it will be an awesome movie series, i'm talking about the technical aspect of it all.
I honestly don't know how much smoothness he will introduce into it, it's really up to him how the final product turns out.
This is a huge gamble.
Will it pay off for him and the studio, lets see.
If it does turn out looking like Dejudder turned on to the max, then maybe the 3D will make it look bad ass, I don't know.
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