The Official "The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey" movie thread *SPOILERS*

[jye4ever]

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I love LOTR
I love Hobbit
I love Josh

 

[carbo-fation]

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I love LOTR
I love Hobbit
I love Josh

This alone is reason enough to be banned forever!

 

[The Josh]

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I love LOTR
I love Hobbit
I love Josh

This alone is reason enough to be banned forever!

 

[wofford29]

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How many full length movies have you seen @ 48 fps?

If I'm not mistaken this won't be a full length film in 48 either will it? Just certain spots? I don't want to click on anything in case I stumble across any spoilers of stuff they've added or changed from the source. If that is the case though this will look like ____ just from transitioning back and forth between the two rates. I hate the dejudder look so if 2D won't be in 48 that'll certainly be my route.

 

[pixletwin]

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If I'm not mistaken this won't be a full length film in 48 either will it? Just certain spots? I don't want to click on anything in case I stumble across any spoilers of stuff they've added or changed from the source. If that is the case though this will look like ____ just from transitioning back and forth between the two rates. I hate the dejudder look so if 2D won't be in 48 that'll certainly be my route.

The presentation seemed to make it clear to those present that the entire feature in 3D would be in 48 fps. Did anyone else who read the article get a different impression?

 

[YoNoSe]

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No, that was my impression as well. But chances are you will be able to see it projected at 24 because many theaters will probably not pay for the upgrades to their digital projectors just for this movie (especially after the overwhelmingly negative reactions).

So I'm assuming the 24fps version will look like the trailer. Trailer looked great to me. If I have the option I'll probably see it projected at 24 and check out the 48 on a second viewing out of curiosity.

 

[wofford29]

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The presentation seemed to make it clear to those present that the entire feature in 3D would be in 48 fps. Did anyone else who read the article get a different impression?

That's good. The thing I read made it sound like the footage switched similar to the way The Dark Knights regular to imax scenes did. That would have been really jarring with framerates.

 

[Radagaster]

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The question is, will they release any 3D in 24 fps or restrict that only to the 48fps? I'll be seeing this more than once, so I might as well cover all the various choices.

 

[Kamandi]

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What concerns me is will the look of the film be different than Lord of the Rings because of this technical change. If the version I own eventually on video is still consistent with the LOTR films or has a made for TV video appearance.

There's stuff shot on video like "Planet Earth" and numerous Discovery channel shows - They look great, they're high def, but they look like they were shot on digital equipment.

 

[Spartan Rex]

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Peter Jackson responds:
https://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=58742

 

[The Josh]

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I trust PJ and how he's handling things. I do believe in the end this will look amazing and all this nonsense will be just that nonsense.

 

[ZaCHw117]

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Agree, remember HDTV when it first came out?

It was like holy ____, this looks ____ing weird. Same deal here.

 

[Matt S]

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If anything, I am personally excited to see this filmed at 48 fps. I do wonder how many theaters will be equipped to handle it, however

 

[jedibear]

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Call me old-fashioned, but I'd like to see it in good ole' 24p 2D!

 

[Maglor]

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From Bad Ass Digest

...The 48fps footage I saw looked terrible. It looked completely non-cinematic. The sets looked like sets. I've been on sets of movies on the scale of The Hobbit, and sets don't even look like sets when you're on them live... but these looked like sets.
The other comparison I kept coming to, as I was watching the footage, was that it all looked like behind the scenes video. The magical illusion of cinema is stripped away completely.

What I expected.

To me, the goal of good filmmaking should not simply be to be more realistic. Realism is good if the goal is to not distract your audience with something super fake looking, like bad make-up or bad CGI. Those things will hopefully continue to progress. But to make the pictures move more like what we see in every-day-life spoils the art-form in my opinion. Our eyes are capable of seeing up to 60fps. Film is shot at 24fps. It's the time between the frames where the magic happens.

I think its a little early to say I told you so. My guess is much of what was seen was not finished and once all put together will just work.

No amount of post tweaking will make it look like less than 48fps, short of making it actually less than 48fps.

I also want to see 48.

Just turn on the smooth motion (dejudder) up to high on your lcd or led tv and you can see the difference now.

I watched Raiders in soap opera mode the other day.

Gross. How can you stand that?

 

[jye4ever]

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/\ i've seen Raiders 1,000 x as a beautiful film, I was in the mood to watch it in that ____ed up manner to see what it would look like with all the film textures removed.

Boy was it ____ed up looking

 

[attom44]

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I trust PJ and how he's handling things. I do believe in the end this will look amazing and all this nonsense will be just that nonsense.

Yes, interesting enough they seemed to focus less on the story and the production and squarely on the new frame rate usage... Since it looked "too real" it's already labeled not what I was expecting..LOL! Let's see the "whole film" and then judge... It's just the usual poppy-____... My prediction.. Mega hit and mega movie.. I'm ready to go on the journey.. anyone else with me..???? Screw the pre-movie 10 minute clip nay-sayers... Post production can change many things... in the end this will be wonderful!!!! My imagination will once again be ignited by PJ and Weta!

 

[CelticPredator]

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If this movie looks fake, and ugly, then it will distract people from the story, and thus make it a bad film overall. Visuals are important in film. Since it is a visual medium.

Obviously you shouldn't make your film a visual storyless movie, but I digress.

 

[OSCORP]

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I thought it was gonna be available in 24p. (if it is that's how MOST people are gonna see it)

 

[Sachiel]

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It will. Not all theaters are going to upgrade their equipment for 48 fps.