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^ Irish doesn't like a movie, that means I will love it!
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The Official "The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey" movie thread *SPOILERS*
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That Badass Digest review reads well, and my only concern is their complaint of bad CGI...considering the LOTR trilogy still looks great today, that is a concern
And Dark Knight Returns was a bloated, overly long movie with a terrible villian
That Badass Digest review reads well, and my only concern is their complaint of bad CGI...considering the LOTR trilogy still looks great today, that is a concern
And Dark Knight Returns was a bloated, overly long movie with a terrible villian
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I liked it, overall. It'd probably give it a 7.5 or 8 out of 10, actually. It's just not up to par with the LOTR trilogy... on a few levels.
Unless you mean I'm not going to fawn over it and overlook its issues and that means you will love it...
Damn, tell me you guys aren't going to be as sensitive as the TDKR masturbators.
^ Irish doesn't like a movie, that means I will love it!
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I liked it, overall. It'd probably give it a 7.5 or 8 out of 10, actually. It's just not up to par with the LOTR trilogy... on a few levels.
Unless you mean I'm not going to fawn over it and overlook its issues and that means you will love it...
Damn, tell me you guys aren't going to be as sensitive as the TDKR masturbators.
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I gotta say I was intent on seeing this at 48fps, now, I am leaning toward the standard
That said, i wanna see this in Imax - for those 9 min of Trek!
I gotta say I was intent on seeing this at 48fps, now, I am leaning toward the standard
That said, i wanna see this in Imax - for those 9 min of Trek!
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About what i expected. Good, but not LOTR trilogy good. (although i do get the feeling a lot of these reviewers/critics have not even read the book)
GTFO!
About what i expected. Good, but not LOTR trilogy good. (although i do get the feeling a lot of these reviewers/critics have not even read the book)
GTFO!
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Heh, such a good post.
Well, at any rate, I'm still looking forward to the Hobbit. No one should expect it to be as good as the LotR films. It was always a much smaller, more modest story... good old fashioned adventure, but not on the same epic scale as it's sequel.
My greatest fear concerning this movie is that they were trying to make it something it's not... trilogy, overabundance of LotR references and stuff that wasn't in the actual book, etc. So I guess I was always going into this without expectations running TOO high.
I'll never make that mistake again. (KOTCS... ugh.)
Heh, such a good post.
Well, at any rate, I'm still looking forward to the Hobbit. No one should expect it to be as good as the LotR films. It was always a much smaller, more modest story... good old fashioned adventure, but not on the same epic scale as it's sequel.
My greatest fear concerning this movie is that they were trying to make it something it's not... trilogy, overabundance of LotR references and stuff that wasn't in the actual book, etc. So I guess I was always going into this without expectations running TOO high.
I'll never make that mistake again. (KOTCS... ugh.)
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Can someone recap the whole fps issue again? I seem to be having difficulty keeping track.
So the higher rate is actually... not as good as the lower rate? I don't get it.
Can someone recap the whole fps issue again? I seem to be having difficulty keeping track.
So the higher rate is actually... not as good as the lower rate? I don't get it.
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The higher frame rate (48fps) makes it look like a soap opera or live TV.
The higher frame rate (48fps) makes it look like a soap opera or live TV.
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Well, it's been a long time since I've seen a soap opera.
Guess I'll just have to see it to figure this out myself. I can't imagine that would make it look BAD.
That said, I do want the best experience. I will only see this once in theatres. Movie tickets are so damn expensive! Plus we have a baby in the house so we don't get away often, lol.
Well, it's been a long time since I've seen a soap opera.
Guess I'll just have to see it to figure this out myself. I can't imagine that would make it look BAD.
That said, I do want the best experience. I will only see this once in theatres. Movie tickets are so damn expensive! Plus we have a baby in the house so we don't get away often, lol.
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The hype already died down for me.
It's just a movie. ON par with the whole series, but it's very hard to say it's the best movie of the year. If people think that, they just don't watch alot of other movies or genres.
The hype already died down for me.
It's just a movie. ON par with the whole series, but it's very hard to say it's the best movie of the year. If people think that, they just don't watch alot of other movies or genres.
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Almost forgot about Dredd!! Another good one on the year!
Almost forgot about Dredd!! Another good one on the year!
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I'm just busting your chops!
Personally, I doubt it will reach the same level for me as the LOTR trilogy did.
Did you watch it in HFR or regular?
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I liked it, overall. It'd probably give it a 7.5 or 8 out of 10, actually. It's just not up to par with the LOTR trilogy... on a few levels.
Unless you mean I'm not going to fawn over it and overlook its issues and that means you will love it...
Damn, tell me you guys aren't going to be as sensitive as the TDKR masturbators.
I'm just busting your chops!
Personally, I doubt it will reach the same level for me as the LOTR trilogy did.
Did you watch it in HFR or regular?
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I have no worries. I can choose any format to see the movie (I got free tickets to HFR, so no biggie there). I'll see it again in 24 fps Saturday. When the ex. edition comes out I am sure the pacing issues will all be ironed out.
I have no worries. I can choose any format to see the movie (I got free tickets to HFR, so no biggie there). I'll see it again in 24 fps Saturday. When the ex. edition comes out I am sure the pacing issues will all be ironed out.
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That shouldn't matter one iota. Not only is this obviously an adaptation into a completely different medium, but as a movie it should stand on its own without any prejudice or knowledge of the original source material.
The LOTR films did this well. They were fully accessible to both hardcore Ringers and newbs alike. But I feel this one won't play quite as well to the mainstream and non-Tolkienites, because Jackson tends to go just a bit too far several times. There's barely a hint of the sublime greatness that was in some of the LOTR movies.
That shouldn't matter one iota. Not only is this obviously an adaptation into a completely different medium, but as a movie it should stand on its own without any prejudice or knowledge of the original source material.
The LOTR films did this well. They were fully accessible to both hardcore Ringers and newbs alike. But I feel this one won't play quite as well to the mainstream and non-Tolkienites, because Jackson tends to go just a bit too far several times. There's barely a hint of the sublime greatness that was in some of the LOTR movies.
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HFR, quite unfortunately.
I'm looking forward to seeing it again in standard 24fps on opening day.
I'm just busting your chops!
Personally, I doubt it will reach the same level for me as the LOTR trilogy did.
Did you watch it in HFR or regular?
HFR, quite unfortunately.
I'm looking forward to seeing it again in standard 24fps on opening day.
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Did you factor the HFR into your grading like some critics or only base it on the film content itself? A lot of the critics are giving this a low rating simply because of HFR which to me shouldn't be a factor.
Did you factor the HFR into your grading like some critics or only base it on the film content itself? A lot of the critics are giving this a low rating simply because of HFR which to me shouldn't be a factor.
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That's just the thing though. There's no way you could possibly fit everything from the LOTR book into films. This being a children's book you could/can. (and even more as PJ and the studio of course has elected to do) It's just the nature of THIS story, it's not as epic or grand as the one from the LOTR books. Which is why i seeing it being as you said ( and i always thought) Good, just not LOTR GOOD.
Some folks want to say prequels real fast, i say fine! (Maybe it is for folks that have read the books/Tolkienites)
That's just the thing though. There's no way you could possibly fit everything from the LOTR book into films. This being a children's book you could/can. (and even more as PJ and the studio of course has elected to do) It's just the nature of THIS story, it's not as epic or grand as the one from the LOTR books. Which is why i seeing it being as you said ( and i always thought) Good, just not LOTR GOOD.
Some folks want to say prequels real fast, i say fine! (Maybe it is for folks that have read the books/Tolkienites)
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No, not really. It certainly affected my experience of watching the movie... but the issues I have with the flick itself will remain regardless. And I'll be clear... these problems are relative. It's nigh impossible to watch this movie and not directly compare it to the LOTR. That is where 99% of the issues become apparent. This is a good movie. It just lacks the greatness that the others have. It seems more... pedestrian, for lack of a better term. Less special.
I can agree with this. I just think Jackson should have gone "leaner & meaner", like he did with the LOTR Theatrical releases. At times this really feels bloated.
Also, I will say that anyone who says this is "Star Wars prequels bad" is simply hair-pulling.
No, not really. It certainly affected my experience of watching the movie... but the issues I have with the flick itself will remain regardless. And I'll be clear... these problems are relative. It's nigh impossible to watch this movie and not directly compare it to the LOTR. That is where 99% of the issues become apparent. This is a good movie. It just lacks the greatness that the others have. It seems more... pedestrian, for lack of a better term. Less special.
I can agree with this. I just think Jackson should have gone "leaner & meaner", like he did with the LOTR Theatrical releases. At times this really feels bloated.
Also, I will say that anyone who says this is "Star Wars prequels bad" is simply hair-pulling.
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Got ya. Well, we will see when I see if I think its the best I've seen this year. From what I've seen in the trailers, tv spots, and extended clip it looks like it has a strong chance. Also as far as where it ranks in the Middle-earth film line I can't say either as I've not seen it. I'll let you know next week.
Well, if you feel like that guy that I think means this movie is pretty damn good.
Carl I wouldn't expect you to fawn over anything dealing with Middle-earth its just not your thing.
No, I won't. I'll be honest and that there are some folks who I don't care even the slightest bit what they think about this movie or The Lord of the Rings movies.
Got ya. Well, we will see when I see if I think its the best I've seen this year. From what I've seen in the trailers, tv spots, and extended clip it looks like it has a strong chance. Also as far as where it ranks in the Middle-earth film line I can't say either as I've not seen it. I'll let you know next week.
That said, Ringers take heart: Other than some of the cheesy dwarf stuff my main problems with this movie are the pacing (particularly the first hour) and overall bloat. I say take heart, because I'm probably the one person in the world who absolutely likes the Theatrical version of FELLOWSHIP more than the Extended, which I feel guts much of its charm... particularly in the first act... for unnecessary Tolkien-fan indulgences.
Still, if you count both versions of each of the previous 3 films I'd still probably rank this one 7th.
I'd write a more in-depth review, but honestly Devin at BadAssDigest pretty much nails my sentiments 100% (which is odd, since I don't usually agree with him):
https://badassdigest.com/2012/12/04/movie-review-the-hobbit-an-unexpected-journey-is-perfectly-okay/
Another note, though: he was smart to see it in 24fps whereas I saw it in the new 48fps format, which I absolutely hated. Still, I'm sure the technical aesthetic didn't affect my issues with the movie itself.
Well, if you feel like that guy that I think means this movie is pretty damn good.
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Unless you mean I'm not going to fawn over it and overlook its issues and that means you will love it...
Damn, tell me you guys aren't going to be as sensitive as the TDKR masturbators.
Carl I wouldn't expect you to fawn over anything dealing with Middle-earth its just not your thing.
No, I won't. I'll be honest and that there are some folks who I don't care even the slightest bit what they think about this movie or The Lord of the Rings movies.
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