The Official "The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey" movie thread *SPOILERS*

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Yeah, when Gollum runs right up to him and doesn't do anything he realizes it. It's sort of like that in the book.
 
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I can see where PJ was coming from in that standpoint but as a fan of the books I felt that his character was less noble in the films. He was always suposed to have the old blood of Númenor in him.

I understand. TE Faramir is a bit of a jerk but much better in the EE.
 
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Mags - Problem is by the time you get to Faramir you've had Gandalf, Aragorn, and Galadriel. You can't keep having people turn it down IMO.

Gandalf and Galadriel are not men. And the bit about Aragorn is an invention for the movies.

Like I said, I've found a way to reconcile it for the films, but Faramir works fine as is in the book - and his character doesn't weaken the power of the ring. And he is still my favorite character in the book.


Well Gollum was able to spot him pretty easily from quite far away earlier and then after the ring ended up on Bilbo's finger Gollum crawled right up to him and went past him several times.

I guess a moment of recognition in Bilbo's face was what I was looking for. Might have missed that on first viewing though.




Yeah, when Gollum runs right up to him and doesn't do anything he realizes it. It's sort of like that in the book.

I though he overhears Gollum talking about how the Goblin's wouldn't be able to see Bilbo with the ring on.

I king of expect that in the EE.
 
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So I wonder if we'll get the theatrical edition on blu this May and then extended in August like they did with the LOTR films. Or did they already announce the release schedule?
 
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Doesn't matter if they're men or not. Movie wise you cannot keep having people turn away this item that so easily corrupts. Even Those two are concerned with what they would become. So as I said you can't keep having it turned down for the general audience to believe it. Never bothered me personally how they handled it. So I guess I didn't need to reconcile it. :lol As far as the Aragon bit I know that. I've kind of read the books a few times myself. :)

Gollum never says that in any of the TV spots I've seen and I have almost all of them saved to my portable hd.
 
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So I wonder if we'll get the theatrical edition on blu this May and then extended in August like they did with the LOTR films. Or did they already announce the release schedule?

No schedule yet but we will get a TE and a EE.
 
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I think that beyond the CGI issues in the sled scene, it just bugged me that Radagast was supposed to be leading the orcs away from the dwarves, and instead he kept circling back around. Every time a dwarf walked around a rock, there was Radagast again leading the wargs straight into their path. Thanks a lot, Radagast. Go back to eating mushrooms.

:lol :lol :lol

I don't know why it is that every LOTR/Hobbit film has to have one major dodgy effects scene but Radagast on the sled certainly qualified this time around.

I guess LOTR finally has its Jar Jar.

"Meesa Radagast, meesa your humble servant, meesa lead the wargs right to you!"
 
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Radagast is nothing at all even in the same universe as Jar Jar.
 
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Relax Josh. Just getting a good natured chuckle at one of the silliest characters in the series. Of course he isn't the travesty that was Jar Jar Binks. :)
 
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The Radagast character didn't bother me at all. He is who he is. A bumbling nature animal freak wizard. But I never read the book.

I didn't even notice the dodgy CGI in that sled scene, but more so, that it was a silly game of hide and seek, between rocks.
Then suddenly the landscape instantly changes to a tree environment. lol

I've always been annoyed by the epic scope they try to convey, as they travel, but then time suddenly just changes to quickly and suddenly where they were once in a barren landscape, they suddenly hit trees or mountains, instantly or a few hours later.
I know I'm not supposed to care or notice movie making details like that, but I do lol
 
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PJ is not treating the material with the respect it deserves by choosing to make this movie with cartoony technology.

Stick to 24fps, people will take you more seriously when they see that you are taking the making of the movie more seriously by choosing an appropriate canvas to showcase your art.

Thankfully I was able to see past the Jay Leno Hobbit show.

The movie, only one question matters.

Can this movie stand next to the other 3 shoulder to shoulder and be considered their equals?

Yes, it can.
 
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The Radagast character didn't bother me at all. He is who he is. A bumbling nature animal freak wizard. But I never read the book.

I didn't even notice the dodgy CGI in that sled scene, but more so, that it was a silly game of hide and seek, between rocks.
Then suddenly the landscape instantly changes to a tree environment. lol

I've always been annoyed by the epic scope they try to convey, as they travel, but then time suddenly just changes to quickly and suddenly where they were once in a barren landscape, they suddenly hit trees or mountains, instantly or a few hours later.
I know I'm not supposed to care or notice movie making details like that, but I do lol

Yeah, going from what looked like Rohan to Rivendell like that didn't work IMO. The scenery wasn't even close. They could have at least CGI'd the fields green first if they wanted to pull that :lol
 
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The movie, only one question matters.

Can this movie stand next to the other 3 shoulder to shoulder and be considered their equals?

Yes, it can.

Yes. Pacing issues aside (which I personally had absolutely no problems with) this movie absolutely feels like part of the LOTR films series. It doesn't detract from any of the previous three films, change any fundamental aspect of the series for the worse, and in fact enhances the former trilogy. Aside from the obvious age difference between Elijah Wood and Ian McKellen between now and 10 years ago the opening scenes in the Shire could have easily passed as EE scenes filmed as part of the LOTR.
 
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Yes. Pacing issues aside (which I personally had absolutely no problems with) this movie absolutely feels like part of the LOTR films series. It doesn't detract from any of the previous three films, change any fundamental aspect of the series for the worse, and in fact enhances the former trilogy. Aside from the obvious age difference between Elijah Wood and Ian McKellen between now and 10 years ago the opening scenes in the Shire could have easily passed as EE scenes filmed as part of the LOTR.

All Elijah needed to do was put on a few pounds and he would've looked just as he did 10 years ago. He was a bit thin.
 
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All Elijah needed to do was put on a few pounds and he would've looked just as he did 10 years ago. He was a bit thin.

That was my only tiny issue was he's a bit thin. He's also not tall at all in person. I walked by him early one morning last year at comic-con and then realized just how short he is.
 
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Yes. Pacing issues aside (which I personally had absolutely no problems with) this movie absolutely feels like part of the LOTR films series. It doesn't detract from any of the previous three films, change any fundamental aspect of the series for the worse, and in fact enhances the former trilogy. Aside from the obvious age difference between Elijah Wood and Ian McKellen between now and 10 years ago the opening scenes in the Shire could have easily passed as EE scenes filmed as part of the LOTR.

My biggest fear going in was emotional impact from a journey coming to an end.

I guess I won't know until the 3rd Hobbit to see if it has the same impact that the end of ROTK did on me.

By the end of ROTK, I was balling. :lol
 
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Death to 48fps.

May a thousand Celtic Predators bring plague upon this technology.

When it comes to movie presentation, Nolan gets it.
 
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My biggest fear going in was emotional impact from a journey coming to an end.

I guess I won't know until the 3rd Hobbit to see if it has the same impact that the end of ROTK did on me.

By the end of ROTK, I was balling. :lol

Just based on the book I think there will be some. A lot depends on how you get attached to a few of the characters.
 
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Doesn't matter if they're men or not. Movie wise you cannot keep having people turn away this item that so easily corrupts. Even Those two are concerned with what they would become. So as I said you can't keep having it turned down for the general audience to believe it. Never bothered me personally how they handled it. So I guess I didn't need to reconcile it. :lol As far as the Aragon bit I know that. I've kind of read the books a few times myself. :)

'Men, who above all things desire power.'

That men are more susceptible to the ring is made clear in both the book and the movie. So for a man to turn down the ring is especially admirable and different than Gandalf turning it down.



Gollum never says that in any of the TV spots I've seen and I have almost all of them saved to my portable hd.

I know he doesn't say it in the movie. I'm wondering if he will say it in the EE. TV spots don't cover stuff from the EEs do they?



I just saw it a second time, this time at 24 fps 3D. So much detail was lost compared to 48 fps. It all felt so blurry that I couldn't make sense of some shots that were so clear and vivid at the higher frame rate.

Traditionally panning in films is done with 24fps in mind so as not to cause too much blur. I'm worried that they moved the camera across scenes faster because they were shooting at 48fps, thus spoiling how it will look at 24. :(
 
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