"The Predator" by Shane Black (2018)

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But what would it look like? What would the plot be?

It would look like whatever they think an audience wants out of a Predator movie. I'm not them so I don't know. But the idea that Disney is going to "Disney-ize" every franchise they acquire is a false narrative IMO. They're going to maximize profit. If need be, they will create a new label to release it under. But it will be whatever they think will bring in the $$$.
 
I'm okay with a comedic tone a la Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, but if they change the mythology that much (enough to warrant the descriptor "radical"), what's the point?
 
So apparently they have already screened this to a few select test audiences. The feedback was mixed at best with some "hating" it. Many sighted a comedic tone that was hard to get used to, and a radical departure from existing mythology within the franchise...


https://www.predator4-movie.com/news/test-screening-reactions-the-predator-2018-now-online


Can't say I'm very excited at all. I'm just hoping we'll see at least one cool Predator design...

So it's ****.
 
Sounds like it's going to be quite heavy on the comedy then which is odd. It probably would have been unintentionally funny anyway.

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So apparently they have already screened this to a few select test audiences. The feedback was mixed at best with some "hating" it. Many sighted a comedic tone that was hard to get used to, and a radical departure from existing mythology within the franchise...


https://www.predator4-movie.com/news/test-screening-reactions-the-predator-2018-now-online


Can't say I'm very excited at all. I'm just hoping we'll see at least one cool Predator design...

I'm glad to hear that forced humor didn't work, both PREDATOR movies weren't action comedy. But "radical departure from existing mythology within the franchise" sounds more like people hatin' on sci-fi element while wantin' their made up AvP space samurai.


Comedy + kids = disaster
Say that to "Iron Meh 3" and its box office.



What would a disney predator movie be like?

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Fox will continue to **** the bed with its iconic franchises. The best films of them have been out for ages. I will be skipping this, and will wait for it to hit Netflix if I decide to see it.
 
We all knew this movie was going to be **** the moment they released an official picture with that dumb looking kid on it.
 
I'm not disheartened in the least that test audiences didn't like it. Who cares what some stupid test audience likes or doesn't like? Is the studios really try to go and do reshoots based on this, what we'll end up with is some bland, middle of the road movie like you'll get from Marvel Studios most of the time. Sure, could be fun, but it probably won't be all that great. I have some trust in Shane black. If people are able to remove their biases and preconceptions from the picture, Iron Man 3 was not a bad movie at all. It was fun and different. As was Kiss Kiss Bang Bang. This guy knows what he's doing. Yes, this Predator movie we'll also defy expectations. But Come on. We have the classic film. We have a whole bunch of mediocre to really terrible sequels and spin-offs. Now we have an opportunity for something different and interesting. I hope they give him a chance with it. I don't want to see some rehash or reboot. That's what I don't see a reason for doing. If you just wanted to try and remake the original film somehow, we already got that with predators. Expansion of the franchise? Look no further than the aliens versus predator films. Trying a different tack is really the only way to do it at this point. Otherwise I might as well just let it stay dead.

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I'm not disheartened in the least that test audiences didn't like it. Who cares what some stupid test audience likes or doesn't like? Is the studios really try to go and do reshoots based on this, what we'll end up with is some bland, middle of the road movie like you'll get from Marvel Studios most of the time.
Test audience isn't something new tho.
In fact, it's a 90 years old practice in filmmaking.
Unfortunately test audience usually consists of tasteless *** holes.
But then again, same can be said about general moviegoers too. :lol


I have some trust in Shane black.
I don't. Not after Irom Meh 3 and leaked plot.
 
I was invited to a test audience showing of a romcom with Ryan Reynolds and Sandra Bullock. Went with the woman. Movie was crap. Ryan and Sandra's characters hated each other for the whole movie only to find out they loved each other in the closing minutes, for some reason. The end. I though the movie sucked and put on the questionnaire that the movie wasn't good and why. Why did they pick me? I don't know, not my style of movie. And they were graded accordingly. Wonder if they reshot/edited the movie based on my judgement?
 
I understand why they use test audiences. And it can have value. But if you hire someone with an off-kilter approach, and pick a random sample of people to review your film, don't be shocked if the test audience doesn't like or understand it.

The problem is that there is only so much information that the studios can plug into their predictive models here, and you can't necessarily get all the right people in to give you the right kind of input in situations like test screenings. And frankly, i'm not sure that there is much of a real science to it from what I've seen. It seems more pseudo-science, where people who speak with authority try to convince execs with money that they know what they're doing. Evilface's example is a good one. It's not a bad idea to get people who wouldn't typically like a film into a test screening. But that should be selective and intentional (e.g., what can we do to minimize the boyfriend's boredom while not pissing off the girlfriend with this romcom?), and you shouldn't have too many of those folks there, because chances are they're never going to want to see a film like that unless they are forced to.

As for Black, if this movie fails spectacularly, so be it. But I'm a bit tired of predictable, generic movies. I'll happily shell out money on something that takes a risk and fails in the geek genre nowadays over one more Star Wars or Avengers wannabe. And if you try to do that with Predator, no one's going to see it anyway.
 
I don't think test audiences are the be all and end all of judging whether a movie is on track or not. But the fact that comments regarding the changing of existing mythology were made suggests that these were indeed fans of the franchise going in, or some of them at least. This is what has me worried...
 
**** at this juncture, let's have a King Willie stand alone-spinoff prequel movie.....
 
the fact that comments regarding the changing of existing mythology were made suggests that these were indeed fans of the franchise going in, or some of them at least. This is what has me worried...
Depends on what kind of "fans". If those were comic book readin' yaujatards then I wouldn't worry.
 
I'm not disheartened in the least that test audiences didn't like it. Who cares what some stupid test audience likes or doesn't like? Is the studios really try to go and do reshoots based on this, what we'll end up with is some bland, middle of the road movie like you'll get from Marvel Studios most of the time. Sure, could be fun, but it probably won't be all that great. I have some trust in Shane black. If people are able to remove their biases and preconceptions from the picture, Iron Man 3 was not a bad movie at all. It was fun and different. As was Kiss Kiss Bang Bang. This guy knows what he's doing. Yes, this Predator movie we'll also defy expectations. But Come on. We have the classic film. We have a whole bunch of mediocre to really terrible sequels and spin-offs. Now we have an opportunity for something different and interesting. I hope they give him a chance with it. I don't want to see some rehash or reboot. That's what I don't see a reason for doing. If you just wanted to try and remake the original film somehow, we already got that with predators. Expansion of the franchise? Look no further than the aliens versus predator films. Trying a different tack is really the only way to do it at this point. Otherwise I might as well just let it stay dead.

I understand why they use test audiences. And it can have value. But if you hire someone with an off-kilter approach, and pick a random sample of people to review your film, don't be shocked if the test audience doesn't like or understand it.

The problem is that there is only so much information that the studios can plug into their predictive models here, and you can't necessarily get all the right people in to give you the right kind of input in situations like test screenings. And frankly, i'm not sure that there is much of a real science to it from what I've seen. It seems more pseudo-science, where people who speak with authority try to convince execs with money that they know what they're doing. Evilface's example is a good one. It's not a bad idea to get people who wouldn't typically like a film into a test screening. But that should be selective and intentional (e.g., what can we do to minimize the boyfriend's boredom while not pissing off the girlfriend with this romcom?), and you shouldn't have too many of those folks there, because chances are they're never going to want to see a film like that unless they are forced to.

As for Black, if this movie fails spectacularly, so be it. But I'm a bit tired of predictable, generic movies. I'll happily shell out money on something that takes a risk and fails in the geek genre nowadays over one more Star Wars or Avengers wannabe. And if you try to do that with Predator, no one's going to see it anyway.

I don't think test audiences are the be all and end all of judging whether a movie is on track or not. But the fact that comments regarding the changing of existing mythology were made suggests that these were indeed fans of the franchise going in, or some of them at least. This is what has me worried...


All good points
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Alien, Predator, Blade Runner, Mad Max, SW, Marvel, DC on and on.....how about the studio’s try an original idea...I enjoy most of these properties but damn no creativity.....they always pick easy money
 
Alien, Predator, Blade Runner, Mad Max, SW, Marvel, DC on and on.....how about the studio’s try an original idea...I enjoy most of these properties but damn no creativity.....they always pick easy money

All those science fiction books out there, all the comic book characters to choose from. It saddens me.
 
It is sad but the logic behind it is that audiences rarely support new properties. I think Pacific Rim was the last one to get any traction and really that's a Greatest Hits of all the anime/kaiju stuff DelToro likes.
 
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