"The Predator" by Shane Black (2018)

[Johnny Utah]

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Either way, the hype for a new Alien and Predator film feels great. New figures, new concept art, the trailers look great, then the final film will make you feel sick and utterly disappointed.

But new figures!

 

[Snake Plissken]

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New figures that don't include Dutch, original Pred, and Ripley. Great stuff!

 

[a-dev]

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Either way, the hype for a new Alien and Predator film feels great. New figures, new concept art, the trailers look great, then the final film will make you feel sick and utterly disappointed.

But new figures!

Do you not find that figures from brand new films ultimately end up flash-in-the-pan sort of affairs, inevitably losing their sheen and becoming the immediate go-to candidates when you need to sell something? The lesson of the Predators line and the T4 line is why I was hesitant to buy the Guardian T-800 (although I did succumb).

 

[Johnny Utah]

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Oh I only bought Royce from Predators because I love the kitted out, military, man on a mission kind of figures. An interesting thing popped into my head while I was perusing this thread.

Does anyone still think HT will do a 2.0 of Dutch or JH? Sometimes they randomly put a figure up, like Matrix last year, but does anyone think they are still making these or Marines?

 

[Snake Plissken]

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Does anyone still think HT will do a 2.0 of Dutch or JH? Sometimes they randomly put a figure up, like Matrix last year, but does anyone think they are still making these or Marines?

Dutch is more likely than Marines, but even Dutch's likelihood seems nil. Jungle Hunter is probably the most likely since they've had a swarm of 2.0s the last few years.

 

[a-dev]

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Royce was a fantastic figure, sometimes I forget that A) he was made and B) I used to own him. Ultimately I sold him though as he was so obscure compared to the rest of my collection and I was getting out of Predator at high-end.

I generally don't think it's wise to hope with Hot Toys anymore. They maybe could be working on a new JH and Dutch but I won't be holding my breath for those or T1 Kyle Reese or USCM 2.0s.

 

[Snake Plissken]

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When I think about it, I think were stuck with the Classic Pred that came from Predators as a sideways 2.0 that needs to be modded to stand in for the JH. After the Predators line, they pretty much went from P2 onward with 2.0s and bypassed JH.

 

[Johnny Utah]

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I wish someone could reach out and do an interview with Howard, even over email, to give us updates on various lines.

 

[Snake Plissken]

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On top of knowing what happened to the 1/4 Predator line, I'd like to know what happened to the 1/4 police station Arnie...

 

[karamazov80]

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I actually find it a guilty pleasure, even watched it again the other day. I don't consider it canon I must stress. It's all very silly and further undermines the T-800 with jokey crap and physical strength he never had in T1 and T2; generally just doesn't feel like the Cameron-verse in any way. Most notably Kyle Reese is a completely different character for some reason. So it's not canon. Real Terminator ended with T2.

As to why I can enjoy it on any level, I'm not even sure. When you think about it, what a ridiculous way to 'respect' T1 and T2 by erasing their events from the timeline. And yet, paradoxically, that's the only point of interest in the film at all. Who would care about another ''even more powerfuller Terminator than your Terminator'' story if it were just that. And I think this is ultimately why I can watch this and yet I can't stomach T3. T3 was just poor repetition.

Yeah, Genisys is good fun but just one of those sequels that you compartmentalize and enjoy in spite of it not being a "real" continuation of the story.

The funny thing is that for all the silliness and goofiness every so often there will be like 10 or 20 seconds straight of a sequence that makes me think, "you know, this one segment could have been part of a *great* Terminator movie," like portions of the future sequence or like when Arnold was loading the magazines and his hand went all crazy.

Never saw it, and probably never will.

 

[Khev]

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It doesn't have f-bombs and butt sex every few seconds so you'd probably hate it.

 

[a-dev]

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I was surprised it did have that one F bomb from the punk (who, sadly, remained alive)

 

[karamazov80]

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You're not alone, Khev. I'm sure 10s of others would agree with you that T: GYNESYS is superior to Deadpool.

 

[Khev]

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10's of people? Where is this fabled group that still holds onto a shred of good taste that you speak of? I'd love to meet them! I assumed it was just me and James Cameron in his amazing technicolor dreamshirt.

 

[Snake Plissken]

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"I start to see things I recognize."

 

[a-dev]

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James Cameron is like me with Arnold sculpts - ''It's awesome!'' *a little while later* ''....welllll. Damn. No, actually it's not''. Give him time.

 

[Khev]

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James Cameron is like me with Arnold sculpts - ''It's awesome!'' *a little while later* ''....welllll. Damn. No, actually it's not''. Give him time.

I'm finding fewer and fewer films that stand up to 5+ viewings for me any more. Whether it's because I decide that they suddenly suck or they just get played out. Either result is effectively the same for me. Spotlight and The Big Short were great films but I honestly don't know when (if ever) I'll sit through them again. So if Genisys joins the "don't watch it again" club well then it will be in good company and was at least a rare film that was fun for several viewings before it came to that.

 

[a-dev]

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What I meant is I think Cameron called it Terminator 3 or something to that effect, inferring like he would consider it canon with his own two films. If that is indeed his stance I don't reckon it will remain so forever.

Since I didn't consider Genisys canon from the outset and can watch it easily enough maybe that means it'll remain a film I revisit from time to time. Less of a come-down for me as I never called it a ''straight 10''

 

[Khev]

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I'm sure he's glad he didn't say "...out of 10."

 

[karamazov80]

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I started out with an intention to support your post Khev, but as I started thinking through examples, for me personally, even going back to the '40s and '50s there are only a smattering of "great" movies that I would be interested in watching multiple times. I'm sure it varies from person to person, but even looking at Academy Award winners like West Side Story, Midnight Cowboy, and the French Connection, they don't seem all that different from your typical, recent winner in terms of their re-watchability.

Something like Chinatown, Casablanca, Citizen Kane, the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly, the Godfather, or even Big Lebowski or the Terminator doesn't come around every year.