Eli26
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I laughed when i saw that too.
Guess my Tony Robins gig is up!
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It's ok Eli, I know what you meant and appreciate it.
So... I have read over the last parts of this thread and I am rooting for you guys. Hopefully you can achieve your fitness goals.
In my experience, it's best not to overdo it. The thing that has vastly improved my health and overall physique has been changing my diet. No more red meat, no more fast food, no more soda. Since I have started eating at home I have noticed myself get slimmer and slimmer. I am luckily allergic to chocolate and I don't like sweets so that makes it even better and easier in my case.
Even though this is a terrible line I still like to think about it because of how good junk food actually tastes. 'Nothing tastes as good as being thin feels' I will always love that line.
All these companies are feeding you ^^^^ that is terrible for you. They have freakin food scientists and spend countless dollars on making their junk taste like heaven and then of course you become addicted. Just eat some fruit.
Working out sucks.I only walk and do natural activities and that's doing me just fine.
In my experience, it's best not to overdo it. The thing that has vastly improved my health and overall physique has been changing my diet. No more red meat, no more fast food, no more soda. Since I have started eating at home I have noticed myself get slimmer and slimmer. I am luckily allergic to chocolate and I don't like sweets so that makes it even better and easier in my case.
Even though this is a terrible line I still like to think about it because of how good junk food actually tastes. 'Nothing tastes as good as being thin feels'
I will always love that line. All these companies are feeding you ^^^^ that is terrible for you. They have freakin food scientists and spend countless dollars on making their junk taste like heaven and then of course you become addicted. Just eat some fruit.
Working out sucks.I only walk and do natural activities and that's doing me just fine.
Eli26
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I spelled his name Tony Robbins then corrected myself (or thought I was) so I went with Robins. Sorry, just found that interesting.
Back on topic, yeah I didn't mean it like that bro. Either way, you'll do it. I know you can because how your patience and perseverance has payed off when it comes to your art.
DarkArtist81
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This thread just got hilarious. And I know what Caedus meant with his post about guys with bad form. I see that all the time at the gym, these kids and even some adults who are throwing their backs into curls and things like that. They don't get how important form is to the whole deal.
That's why I don't mind the looks when I am curling 30 lbs only, or benching with 25 lb plates on each side and nothing else. I am always conscious of form, not only because I want the best results but also for injury prevention.
Bench press is a pain for me for other reasons, because I have no spotter. So I can't go as heavy as I want anyway. I get my heavy chest workout with dumbbells for that reason alone. Because you never feel more stupid or helpless than when you can't get that last rep up and you are stuck with the bar on your chest.
DarkArtist81
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So... I have read over the last parts of this thread and I am rooting for you guys. Hopefully you can achieve your fitness goals.
In my experience, it's best not to overdo it. The thing that has vastly improved my health and overall physique has been changing my diet. No more red meat, no more fast food, no more soda. Since I have started eating at home I have noticed myself get slimmer and slimmer. I am luckily allergic to chocolate and I don't like sweets so that makes it even better and easier in my case.
Even though this is a terrible line I still like to think about it because of how good junk food actually tastes. 'Nothing tastes as good as being thin feels'
All these companies are feeding you ^^^^ that is terrible for you. They have freakin food scientists and spend countless dollars on making their junk taste like heaven and then of course you become addicted. Just eat some fruit.
Working out sucks.I only walk and do natural activities and that's doing me just fine.
Diet is very important. I've been off soda for the most part for a couple of years now. I will still have the occasional drink, but not very often. If you can create a diet that works for you, and slims you down... do it. It's getting harder to keep fit in this world, with so much bad stuff available on the market.
But working out is fun bro, you just have to find your groove. I used to absolutely hate it, but it was the military that turned me around. In Air Crew school we woke up every morning and ran 5 miles, we did calisthenics immediately after and didn't finish until it was lunch. After that we did laps in the pool and beach sprints until the sun went down. I did that for a few weeks and it really started to catch on. After that, I saw it as a fun challenge.
Now every time I go to the gym I feel more comfortable than I do anywhere else. It's like full body customizing, but it just takes more time to do it. Every day is just one small step.
Eli26
Super Freak
So... I have read over the last parts of this thread and I am rooting for you guys. Hopefully you can achieve your fitness goals.
In my experience, it's best not to overdo it. The thing that has vastly improved my health and overall physique has been changing my diet. No more red meat, no more fast food, no more soda. Since I have started eating at home I have noticed myself get slimmer and slimmer. I am luckily allergic to chocolate and I don't like sweets so that makes it even better and easier in my case.
Even though this is a terrible line I still like to think about it because of how good junk food actually tastes. 'Nothing tastes as good as being thin feels'
All these companies are feeding you ^^^^ that is terrible for you. They have freakin food scientists and spend countless dollars on making their junk taste like heaven and then of course you become addicted. Just eat some fruit.
Working out sucks.I only walk and do natural activities and that's doing me just fine.
Actually, working out gives you a high when the endorphins are running. Working out rocks! It's just hard at first. But once you get over that initial hump, it's smoother sailing from that point.
But yeah, eating in is definitely key. You have no idea how bad the food is you're getting when served by some punks behind, in front, or on top of... a stove at a restaurant.
My mother knows a health inspector and he recommends that people eat in.
And I know what Caedus meant with his post about guys with bad form. I see that all the time at the gym, these kids and even some adults who are throwing their backs into curls and things like that. They don't get how important form is to the whole deal.
That's why I don't mind the looks when I am curling 30 lbs only, or benching with 25 lb plates on each side and nothing else. I am always conscious of form, not only because I want the best results but also for injury prevention.
Bench press is a pain for me for other reasons, because I have no spotter. So I can't go as heavy as I want anyway. I get my heavy chest workout with dumbbells for that reason alone. Because you never feel more stupid or helpless than when you can't get that last rep up and you are stuck with the bar on your chest.
That's why I like having a home gym. Granted it's over a decaded old
, but I don't have friends to go to the gym with nor the money for a membership, so I have the machine to spot me and save money and can do it whenever I want to.I remember at college when I'd go to the gym and see all the "jocks" lifting and I'd come home and talk to my brother and so many times he'd tell me what they were doing was stupid and often dangerous and how many times he'd treat injuries as a result of some of their techniques. A lot of guys are so pressed for a certain result or just so jacked up they don't care, they do excercises that will get results but aren't the safest or smartest way to go about it.
I'm benching about 30 lbs right now, same for my back shoulders and triceps, biceps I can only do about 20lbs and the moment but I don't care. After one week of solid weight lifting I already feel my triceps shaping and coming in which is nice. I wish I had a mirror near my weight bench, I used to like at college when I could see my triceps bulge during the excercises
Basically right now, I do all upper body weights and let the running be my lower body work, it does more than enough for that. I do curls for my forearms too.
Eli26
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And I know what Caedus meant with his post about guys with bad form. I see that all the time at the gym, these kids and even some adults who are throwing their backs into curls and things like that. They don't get how important form is to the whole deal.
That's why I don't mind the looks when I am curling 30 lbs only, or benching with 25 lb plates on each side and nothing else. I am always conscious of form, not only because I want the best results but also for injury prevention.
Bench press is a pain for me for other reasons, because I have no spotter. So I can't go as heavy as I want anyway. I get my heavy chest workout with dumbbells for that reason alone. Because you never feel more stupid or helpless than when you can't get that last rep up and you are stuck with the bar on your chest.
That last part you just posted is when you ask for a spotter for help.
But I also hate when people take on spotters that have no idea what they are doing... what ends up happening they either do half your weight for you, pulling too much on it, which makes it pointless even doing that weight, or they don't pay attention, and have no idea what's going on. Always make certain you take on someone who you have faith in. Their job is to make certain you get those last two reps without burning yourself out, or dropping it on you. They should know when you should hang up the weights as well. Too often guys get ahead of themselves and try to knock an extra rep or two when you clearly can see their muscles are burned out.
Also, consult a personal trainer. Too many guys go in the gym thinking they know what they are doing and end up doing exercises incorrectly. Wouldn't be shocked if that was the majority here. It's always good to take on a personal trainer every now and then. Proper form, posture, and getting the right information, and exercises is more beneficial than following some guy's beat who has no idea what he's doing in the gym.
The worst thing you can do is take on poor habits from people who have no idea what they are doing. Who cares if they are built and shredded. It probably took them longer to get there by doing things incorrectly. You'll always build, but not as effectively and as efficiently as you would working out properly.
That and half the guys are abusing some form of anabolic.
DarkArtist81
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Yeah, I know what you mean..
That's why I love my gym so much, it's just full of elderly people and kids who have no idea what they are doing. There are only a small handful of guys who are actual "old hands" at this stuff, so I don't get that feeling that I don't belong.
The nice thing is, of all the guys I see who go almost as much as I do... I seem to be the one with the most gains, which is nice. I feel like a damn superstar at that gym.
That's why I love my gym so much, it's just full of elderly people and kids who have no idea what they are doing. There are only a small handful of guys who are actual "old hands" at this stuff, so I don't get that feeling that I don't belong.
The nice thing is, of all the guys I see who go almost as much as I do... I seem to be the one with the most gains, which is nice. I feel like a damn superstar at that gym.
Working out fun?Diet is very important. I've been off soda for the most part for a couple of years now. I will still have the occasional drink, but not very often. If you can create a diet that works for you, and slims you down... do it. It's getting harder to keep fit in this world, with so much bad stuff available on the market.
But working out is fun bro, you just have to find your groove. I used to absolutely hate it, but it was the military that turned me around. In Air Crew school we woke up every morning and ran 5 miles, we did calisthenics immediately after and didn't finish until it was lunch. After that we did laps in the pool and beach sprints until the sun went down. I did that for a few weeks and it really started to catch on. After that, I saw it as a fun challenge.
Now every time I go to the gym I feel more comfortable than I do anywhere else. It's like full body customizing, but it just takes more time to do it. Every day is just one small step.
I agree but only if it's natural. I really prefer doing things like playing tennis, surfing, and swimming. Going to the gym was torture for me. The machines were so boring and lifting weights so repetitive. I hated doing the cardio machines because they were so stationary. I did the gym thing for 6 months hard core and I saw limited results. It was just stressful and not fun at all. I don't want to be bulky at all either, just lean. More like a swimmers body. I wouldn't want to do what you did in the military. I would be worried that my body would start to expect that kind of extreme fitness routine and I would eventually quit due to laziness or something else.
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Working out fun?
I agree but only if it's natural. I really prefer doing things like playing tennis, surfing, and swimming. Going to the gym was torture for me. The machines were so boring and lifting weights so repetitive. I hated doing the cardio machines because they were so stationary. I did the gym thing for 6 months hard core and I saw limited results. It was just stressful and not fun at all. I don't want to be bulky at all either, just lean. More like a swimmers body. I wouldn't want to do what you did in the military. I would be worried that my body would start to expect that kind of extreme fitness routine and I would eventually quit due to laziness or something else.
Let me paraphrase. "I am lazy."
DarkArtist81
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That last part you just posted is when you ask for a spotter for help.
But I also hate when people take on spotters that have no idea what they are doing... what ends up happening they either do half your weight for you, pulling too much on it, which makes it pointless even doing that weight, or they don't pay attention, and have no idea what's going on. Always make certain you take on someone who you have faith in. Their job is to make certain you get those last two reps without burning yourself out, or dropping it on you. They should know when you should hang up the weights as well. Too often guys get ahead of themselves and try to knock an extra rep or two when you clearly can see their muscles are burned out.
Also, consult a personal trainer. Too many guys go in the gym thinking they know what they are doing and end up doing exercises incorrectly. Wouldn't be shocked if that was the majority here. It's always good to take on a personal trainer every now and then. Proper form, posture, and getting the right information, and exercises is more beneficial than following some guy's beat who has no idea what he's doing in the gym.
The worst thing you can do is take on poor habits from people who have no idea what they are doing. Who cares if they are built and shredded. It probably took them longer to get there by doing things incorrectly. You'll always build, but not as effectively and as efficiently as you would working out properly.
That and half the guys are abusing some form of anabolic.
Well said bro. I can never find a decent spotter in my gym, the people there mostly don't have a clue. I just don't trust them enough for it.
So I just study form in books and tapes. Primarily my Arnold Encyclopedia and Pumping Iron, which are both really good resources for form and exercises. I am most conscious of my deltoid workouts and my biceps/triceps, because if your arms are injured you cannot do anything. Plus on top of that, my shoulders are always a bit weak and I am very careful in training them. As for Biceps, I just hate watching people swing around when they do their workouts..
Eli26
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Yeah, I know what you mean..
That's why I love my gym so much, it's just full of elderly people and kids who have no idea what they are doing. There are only a small handful of guys who are actual "old hands" at this stuff, so I don't get that feeling that I don't belong.
The nice thing is, of all the guys I see who go almost as much as I do... I seem to be the one with the most gains, which is nice. I feel like a damn superstar at that gym.
Boy did I have to go back in and correct a lot of stuff. Oi! It's hard to think and type fast!
Anyway, it is scary how bad it's becoming. So many people are clueless unfortunately. Other thing I can't stand is how people will injure themselves and will workout through the pain.
In the gym, there is good pain and bad pain. Good pain is when your muscle is tearing, which is what you want. Bad pain is when you pulled something or worse... stop if you are getting that bad pain. I have taken myself away from the gym days at a time when I felt something wasn't right. Rest is also key, but most importantly. More than anything else, this is the best advice anyone can give you, and should be the most obvious, but isn't due to so many people destroying their bodies from neglect and bad habits... listen to your body. If something isn't right, it most likely isn't. Never push yourself too hard. You'll be on this planet (hopefully) for a long time, so there is no rush.
DarkArtist81
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Let me paraphrase. "I am lazy."
I can understand what Rory means... He never got over the hump, never got that first high. Once you have been there, or you've seen awesome results... something changes and the fun begins.
Let me paraphrase. "I am lazy."
Lazy and easily distracted.
I couldn't commit to the shakes, the protein yada yadas you guys go through, the daily trips to the gym. ^^^^ man, I just walk my dog and eat right. Good enough for me.
DarkArtist81
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Boy did I have to go back in and correct a lot of stuff. Oi! It's hard to think and type fast!
Anyway, it is scary how bad it's becoming. So many people are clueless unfortunately. Other thing I can't stand is how people will injure themselves and will workout through the pain.
In the gym, there is good pain and bad pain. Good pain is when your muscle is tearing, which is what you want. Bad pain is when you pulled something or worse... stop if you are getting that bad pain. I have taken myself away from the gym days at a time when I felt something wasn't right. Rest is also key, but most importantly. More than anything else, this is the best advice anyone can give you, and should be the most obvious, but isn't due to so many people destroying their bodies from neglect and bad habits... listen to your body. If something isn't right, it most likely isn't. Never push yourself too hard. You'll be on this planet (hopefully) for a long time, so there is no rush.
Agreed. You definitely have to listen to what your pain is telling you. When I hurt my shoulder in my first week, I backed off for while. I didn't want to injure myself further, and I think it was a smart call.
And that is also why a warm up helps, as well as stretching... if you spend just a little time doing those two things, it will lessen the chances of injury. Especially when combined with decent form.
I guess man. I ran for 45 minutes with my heartbeat elevated to my target heart rate 4 to 5 times a week. I just never got into those machines. I do enjoy surfing which can be great cardio but more so because of the activity and not the exercise. I never thought lifting weights was fun though. I have seen results in the past from lifting weights but since I never wanted to be bulky it was really easy for me to quit. Plus, when I get older I don't want all that mass. I don't want to be so thick if you know what I mean.
Yeah, I made the mistake my sophomore year of lifting with my roomate who was a nut in many ways and he'd push through whatever, he was cranked on working out. I took his lead and pushed too much, screwed up my right shoulder/pectoral for a couple weeks, anytime I used that muscle it would feel like someone was stabbing me with a knife, I could reach up for anything, basically had to do nothing with that arm, thankfully it was my left, but hard to be an art student with one good arm. After that I learned, there's no sense going further than you can handle. Now, you have to keep pushing yourself or you won't keep progressing, but you have to push at the rate your body can handle, too much too soon and you get hurt. Your body does know, if you go to try a bit beyond what you've been doing and it feels fine, stick it out, if something feels off, back off, you're not ready.
DarkArtist81
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Lazy and easily distracted.
I couldn't commit to the shakes, the protein yada yadas you guys go through, the daily trips to the gym. ^^^^ man, I just walk my dog and eat right. Good enough for me.
It's not for everyone, that's for sure. I wish it was. I'm just glad I got over my fear of it, I just think that humans don't use our full body potential... and if I can get a fraction of my potential by going to a gym.. I will. I just want to do everything I can do to be healthy, and also just to see how far I can go.
It's like climbing a mountain really, you are just aiming for that peak.
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